Storm Troopers

[DGF]

This happened near my house. It could happen to any of us. They even had an armored vehicle. This is almost unbelievable.

http://www.infowars.com/adam-kokesh-raided-by-storm-trooper-cops/

[MikeBjerum]

Saying it could happen to any of us is a bit of a stretch.  Kokesh made himself famous, and then he recorded himself breaking the law.  He expanded this by putting the video out in the public.  What did he, or do we expect?  Of course now we can ask him, What were you thinking?, while we try to figure out why he had illegal drugs when the cops showed up.

This incident in itself does not scare me, because Kokesh asked for it.

[crusader rabbit]

m58 raises a good point.  Kokesh asked for the attention, and he got what he asked for.

When I was just a little Rabbit, my Mom repeatedly stressed the precept:  Don't tease the animals.  That she had to repeatedly stress this truth may suggest more about the kind of kid I was than I intend, nevertheless, I eventually learned.  It isn't wise to poke lions, rattlesnakes or bears.

Kokesh poked.

If the drugs were actually his, or if they were known by him to be on his property, he deserves whatever punishment he gets just for being stupid.

As has been said by others, Life is tough;  It's even tougher when you're stupid.

Crusader Rabbit

[JLawson]

... Kokesh asked for the attention, and he got what he asked for. ...

Stealing a line from a pretty good movie, "Rabbit is good.  Rabbit is wise."  Kokesh did indeed get what he asked for.  This reminds me, though, of David Gregory's stunt on Meet the Press.  When Gregory waved an AR magazine around on national television I don't remember hearing about any raids on his home.

Ahh, wait a minute, Gregory is one of the "elites" - everyone knows that the rules we must follow are not intended for them.  They get a pass - we get prosecuted.

[DGF]

They didn't raid his house because they suspected he had drugs. They raided his house because he rubbed their nose in the 2nd amendment. I would be curious whether the drugs were his or planted. If they wanted him, they could have served him with a summons first. Just as the ATF could have arrested David Koresh when he was in town, as he was, every day.

Someone once said,"When they came for the jews I did nothing because I was not a jew," You know how the rest of that saying goes. Don't think for a moment that this website is not under surveillance by homeland security and that all that contribute here are not on a list. At some point, I have no doubt, they will come for our guns, and as Tom says the nice young boy that lived down the street will now be wearing BDU's and will kick in your door.

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[Solus]

I agree, DGF.

No doubt Kokesh knew he was gonna be getting someone's attention with that video.

The fact that the government used such an extreme level of excessive force when two Marshals with a warrant could have done the job.  But then who will be taught a lesson and how many would be cowed by doing it the reasonable way?

Let the subjects take heed of or might and wrath.

And since that shows their goal was to intimidate and teach lessons, a drug plant fits right in with that operation.

[MikeBjerum]

The key is that this is one of the steps in activism and civil disobedience.  If you are not prepared for the entire fight, don't throw the first bunch.  In my opinion, he started the fight, he pushed it to the next level, he got what I would consider the expected attention for that pushing, and it will be interesting if he had the rest of his life in order or was truly stupid enough to put himself in this situation with an illegal substance.

If you are going to play this game having your life in order is a must, and the Word of God in I Timothy 3:1-4 would be something to consider:

3 Here is a trustworthy saying: Whoever aspires to be an overseer desires a noble task. 2 Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. 4 He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him, and he must do so in a manner worthy of full respect.

[tombogan03884]

Disobedience to illegal laws is the only proper response to them .
The "It's the law" cop out would make the perpetrators of the Boston Tea Party spit on you in disgust.

[billt]

Saying it could happen to any of us is a bit of a stretch.  Kokesh made himself famous, and then he recorded himself breaking the law.  He expanded this by putting the video out in the public.  What did he, or do we expect?  Of course now we can ask him, What were you thinking?, while we try to figure out why he had illegal drugs when the cops showed up.

This incident in itself does not scare me, because Kokesh asked for it.

I hate to agree on this point, but I must. You have to follow common sense about these things. "Organized civil disobedience" to protest is one thing, but taunting them to respond with aggression is another. He did "get what he deserved" in that it all could have been avoided.

A sit down protest at an abortion clinic is one thing. You will be asked to leave. If you don't you'll be carried off by the police. But loading and racking a 12ga. on Main St. is another. One could argue, but the response proves otherwise. They have the power and authority. If you want to test it, you'll get what he got.

This reminds me of the You Tube rant by James Yeager. Telling everyone within the click of a mouse how he was "going to fire the first shot", and all that other crap when the gun control argument got revved up. They, (law enforcement), responded by revoking his CCW. He then went on You Tube and somewhat apologized. The damage was done, and all he did was make himself look foolish.

[ellis4538]

Solus, I disagree...The force used was because they knew a shotgun and ammo was available to the individual they were going after.  They didn't know what else he might have and they went in prepared!  HE WAS/IS A FOOL in my opinion.....they were not.

FWIW


Richard

PS:  Doesn't mean I would not resent it if it happened to me but I would not do what he did.  I agree with DGF about us being watched!  I'll leave it at that.