Concealed Weapon Permits Going Federal?

[Pathfinder]

I don't have a prob with CCWs...

I have a prob with some one trying to get around several parts of the US cons.( which this bill would do...)

It would stamp all over states rights, 

Do you also object to the Dept. of Education? Department of Health? Dept. of the Interior? et al?

All of these are not stipulated in the US Constitution and clearly violate the 10th Amendment. So is it guns or is it states' rights? Or something else?

[TAB]

Do you also object to the Dept. of Education? Department of Health? Dept. of the Interior? et al?

All of these are not stipulated in the US Constitution and clearly violate the 10th Amendment. So is it guns or is it states' rights? Or something else?

Artical 1 section 8 covers those...

Section 8. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

To establish post offices and post roads;

To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To provide and maintain a navy;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;--And

To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.

[Hazcat]

TAB,

I didn't see anything about health or education in there.  Not to mention environment, occupational safety, and on and on.

[TAB]

TAB,

I didn't see anything about health or education in there.  Not to mention environment, occupational safety, and on and on.

provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States

[Hazcat]

That 'general welfare' is quite a strecth.  You could use that to cover pretty much anything if you want.

[Sponsor]

[ericire12]

That 'general welfare' is quite a strecth.  You could use that to cover pretty much anything if you want.

Hit.

[DDMac]

It clearly covers the important part. Welfare.
Mac.

[TAB]

That 'general welfare' is quite a strecth.  You could use that to cover pretty much anything if you want.

not near as far as some other things.   

[Hazcat]

TAB,

I think what drives some of us crazy about you is you come up with crap like the 'welfare clause' and tell us such and such is covered under it then when told that that is BS you agree.

Well which is it?  Is the general welfare clause being misused or not?  Do YOU think health  and education should be covered under it (or any other clause) or should those (as the most of us believe) be at the local or even individual level?

[TAB]

its not the welfare cluase... its the general welfare cluase.

I think most of us would agree its in the best intrest of the country to have things like: safe drinking water, safe food, schools, mangment of natureal resources and etc.