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Re: History Channel - How It Works on guns & ammo next Thursday
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2008, 11:33:23 AM »
I was waiting and waiting for the show then  missed it. Does anyone know if they'll be re-running it?
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Re: History Channel - How It Works on guns & ammo next Thursday
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2008, 11:35:32 AM »
I was waiting and waiting for the show then  missed it. Does anyone know if they'll be re-running it?


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Re: History Channel - How It Works on guns & ammo next Thursday
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2008, 04:32:17 PM »
Next showing of this episode according to TIVO is Sunday 8/17 at 12 noon.

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Re: History Channel - How It Works on guns & ammo next Thursday
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2008, 07:21:25 PM »
Next showing of this episode according to TIVO is Sunday 8/17 at 12 noon.

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I have it on DVR too, forgot to set it before, found it repeated at midnight CST Thursday night.
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Re: History Channel - How It Works on guns & ammo next Thursday
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2008, 07:36:04 PM »
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Replay is Sunday 8/17 at 12:00 Eastern(noon) 9:00 AM Pacific
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Re: History Channel - How It Works on guns & ammo next Thursday
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2008, 12:17:39 AM »
Thanks for the tip Pathfinder. I set my DVR when I first read your post and promptly forgot about it. I just re-read your post and finally watched it. Good show and good info.

I believe I saw on another documentary, possibly "Tales of the Gun", that the Germans in WWII and probably others experimented with actual curved barrels (or barrel attachments) so the 'trick' question about shooting around corners might not have been entirely accurate. Anybody have any info on that?

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Re: History Channel - How It Works on guns & ammo next Thursday
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2008, 12:47:34 AM »
Thanks for the tip Pathfinder. I set my DVR when I first read your post and promptly forgot about it. I just re-read your post and finally watched it. Good show and good info.

I believe I saw on another documentary, possibly "Tales of the Gun", that the Germans in WWII and probably others experimented with actual curved barrels (or barrel attachments) so the 'trick' question about shooting around corners might not have been entirely accurate. Anybody have any info on that?

Yes, the Germans made a device for the StG 44 that would shoot around corners, it was a barrel attachment with a 90 degree sweep and a prismatic sight, they also had a 45 degree version made in much smaller numbersIt was made for urban combat on the Eastern front, Some claim it was for use in tanks to clear Russians off who would place satchel charges on the tank or drop grenades down the hatch, anyone who has seen the tight quarters inside a WWII German tank doubts this theory as the StG 44 was longer than an AK, with out the folding stock, it would have been far more practicle to apply the same technology to a sub machine gun than to try weilding a full size rifle inside a tank. post war evaluations rated them as reasonably accurate.

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Re: History Channel - How It Works on guns & ammo next Thursday
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2008, 01:07:18 AM »
I saw the show. It was pretty fair and comprehensive, which would be most beneficial to people who don't shoot for whatever reason, IMHO. I do recall a portion of the show in which the host describes the differences between the most basic types of bullet profile, the round nose and the hollow point. He shot them against a steel plate and tried to explain the differences in the performances of each bullet based on how they reacted with the steel plate. I think it would have been better to show the differences with ballistic gelatin rather than a steel plate, because the both of the rounds shattered on the steel. Gelatin would show why use hollow points and why we don't use round nose, be they FMJ, Lead, Semi-wadcutter, or other variations, for self defense. But I do understand that it was a basic show and was geared towards those with less experience than those who study firearms religiously, and I liked it over all. That's just my opinion, though.
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Re: History Channel - How It Works on guns & ammo next Thursday
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2008, 04:46:55 AM »
Yes, the Germans made a device for the StG 44 that would shoot around corners, it was a barrel attachment with a 90 degree sweep and a prismatic sight, they also had a 45 degree version made in much smaller numbersIt was made for urban combat on the Eastern front, Some claim it was for use in tanks to clear Russians off who would place satchel charges on the tank or drop grenades down the hatch, anyone who has seen the tight quarters inside a WWII German tank doubts this theory as the StG 44 was longer than an AK, with out the folding stock, it would have been far more practicle to apply the same technology to a sub machine gun than to try weilding a full size rifle inside a tank. post war evaluations rated them as reasonably accurate.

I remember thinking as he talked about shooting around corners, he missed two weapons - the Israeli one made essentially from a Glock, and the German curved barrel Stg44. The Glock one is just silly, as it is a plastic frame that is hinged in the middle, and looks fragile.

As I recall, the curved barrel on the Stg44 was developed for the Elefant (might have that one wrong), a rather large SPG, which was never supplied with a commander's MG, and consequently had no way to keep enemy infantry away from its hull.  So the curved barrel Stg44 was developed to be shoved through a gun port, and spray and pray the BG off the hull. The barrel tended to shatter the bullets, not a bad thing when you're shooting at those ranges with the desire to clear the hull.
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