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Wound and Bleeding Control
« on: December 19, 2015, 12:45:04 PM »
This story is over a year old, but I had not seen it before.....it's about a device called the XSTAT wound control system.

Anyone else heard of it?

Might be something to consider for a range/BOB/first-aid gear bag.


http://www.medgadget.com/2014/04/xstat-gunshot-wound-system-approved-by-fda-for-use-on-battlefield.html





According to the product website, these are already in the hands of the US military as of April 2015.

http://www.revmedx.com/

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Re: Wound and Bleeding Control
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2015, 07:41:03 AM »
The FDA just approved this system for civilian use.  Saw a report recently but can't recall where.

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Re: Wound and Bleeding Control
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2015, 12:44:04 PM »
Keep it simple!

Gauze pads and dressings, pack them in and wrap them tight.  If this gadget will do the job, so will shoving a roll of gauze in and wrapping it tight.  Why buy something that is single purpose?
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Re: Wound and Bleeding Control
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2015, 02:55:01 PM »
I don't even know if you can buy that thing but if a hole is big enough for that it's big enough for a tampon. Tampons are likely a fraction of the cost.
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Re: Wound and Bleeding Control
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2015, 06:23:25 AM »
A really SMALL fraction of the cost. Not only that, but they are a lot easier to find, half the population keeps some on hand.
That "thing" looks like a suppository injector.

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Re: Wound and Bleeding Control
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Re: Wound and Bleeding Control
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2015, 07:56:59 AM »
Deja vu all over again.

1975-1977 I volunteered for the Jacksonville, FL Drug Rescue unit.   Concert patrol finding people in distress.  Our primary tools were towels, water and sanitary napkins.    Our primary job wasn't to provide "treatment" but to keep them breathing, keep them beating and stop the bleeding" while we transported them to the nearest EMT center.
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Re: Wound and Bleeding Control
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2015, 11:08:11 AM »
Two things:

#1 A tampon is garbage when it comes to stopping REAL bleeding. They do not have the capacity for blood stopping. I carry a couple of tampons in my big first aid kit. For nose bleeds and their intended purpose, they work great. Arterial bleeding, not so much.

#2 While I think this product is AWESOME for wound packing, I don't see it replacing a tourniquet. For civilian use, unless you are miles and hours away from higher medical treatment, I think that the size / weight of this make it impractical.

Here is reality, in the world we live in, you will most likely have paramedics on scene by the time you have stopped bleeding and stabilized. I have no idea what these things cost, and while I really do like it, I don't really see it as a game changer. Simply a way to make packing a wound easier, and maybe more consistent.
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Re: Wound and Bleeding Control
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2015, 11:26:51 AM »
Two things:

#1 A tampon is garbage when it comes to stopping REAL bleeding. They do not have the capacity for blood stopping. I carry a couple of tampons in my big first aid kit. For nose bleeds and their intended purpose, they work great. Arterial bleeding, not so much.

#2 While I think this product is AWESOME for wound packing, I don't see it replacing a tourniquet. For civilian use, unless you are miles and hours away from higher medical treatment, I think that the size / weight of this make it impractical.

Here is reality, in the world we live in, you will most likely have paramedics on scene by the time you have stopped bleeding and stabilized. I have no idea what these things cost, and while I really do like it, I don't really see it as a game changer. Simply a way to make packing a wound easier, and maybe more consistent.


I pretty much see it the same way: it has a use, but limited in scope for civilians.

I see it as a 'static kit' tool instead of a field mobile tool......for example, a stationary home defense kit, a 'range house' kit, maybe even part of an 'in-the-car-always' kit.

Also I think it would pair well with a nice tourniquet to make a good blood loss control system, particularly if one's range/home is in a remote area, away from rapid EMT availability.



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Re: Wound and Bleeding Control
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2015, 12:03:06 PM »
I've got about half dozen 4 and 6" IBDs in the bag along with a comprehensive First Aid Kit.  Should be sufficient for my needs.

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Re: Wound and Bleeding Control
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2015, 05:36:55 PM »
For some strange reason, I have witnessed a disproportionate number of vehicular accidents unfold over the last 20+ years, so I try to keep plenty of first-aid supplies on hand.
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