Hussein Obama's Gun Grab Plans & Legality

[Rastus]

I was ready for 2015 to be over with and to start anew.  It's been a heck of a meat grinder year, however 2016 is shaping up to be a bigger problem due to pending political wet dreams.

In the interest of fairness, I swiped A Solzhenitzyn's character in the gulag for that last poll question. 

[MikeBjerum]

Seeing as the news reports are quoting his aides, I believe that this announcement is for real.  I am waiting to see where it stops.  First was that those in the business of selling guns would have to do background checks for sales at gun shows (this is already the law - DUH), then the other show dropped, and today's report says there will be a refining of the description of who is a dealer.

Tin Foil Hat On

I believe that we will see an Executive Order that gun sale at a gun show will need to go through a background check; then we will see a redefinition of dealers to be a very low threshold that will cause issues of what the BATFE says a dealer is; then I foresee a time when every gun transaction will need to be done by an FFL holder, and the government will charge for the background checks.

Bottom line in my warped world:

Pres. BHO is using the Executive Order to bring about the Universal Background Check that our elected officials in this Democratic Republic refused.  I believe that we are in for a year of hard hitting on guns as a set up for Hillary who cares about the poor victimized families, and they will use the GOP stance as being cold hearted, unfeeling, and owned by the NRA.

[Ulmus]

I believe that we are in for a year of hard hitting on guns as a set up for Hillary who cares about the poor victimized families, and they will use the GOP stance as being cold hearted, unfeeling, and owned by the NRA.

Definitely.

Obama will do something.  It will cause a lot of trouble and probably make firearm ownership the number one issue for the election.

Big mistake on their side.

[tombogan03884]

Only if we allow it.

[jstm]

All blow no go.

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[tombogan03884]

All III%er's, Oath keepers, and gun rights people, time to fish or cut bait, USE 'EM OR LOSE 'EM.
If Obama and the liberals are allowed to do this you will not have guns by the next new year.
If you allow it you don't deserve them either.

[vincewarde]

He really has two choices:

1) Do something that is likely legal and constitutional, that will seem to do more than it actually does, such as:

a) Opening the NICS system to private persons doing private sales on a voluntary basis.  There are several ways in which this can be done, and as long as it is not mandatory, I see nothing wrong with it as a policy.  Can Obama legally do this on his own?  Maybe.

b) He could direct his DOJ to consider anyone selling more than "X" number of firearms to be "engaged in the business of selling firearms", thus requiring them to have an FFL.  This would have to be tested in criminal court.  It likely could go either way - but Obama would be out of office before a legal precedent could be established.

2) Obama could do something much more radical and unconstitutional, such as:

a) Requiring a NICS check on all sales

b) Banning sales of some firearms

My gut feeling is that he will go with option one - something that will not be blatantly unconstitutional, but will allow him to say that he has taken action to greatly expand background checks.  However, we shall all see very soon.

[PegLeg45]

Only if we allow it.

Exactly.


Making a law or EO is one thing.....actually being able to enforce it is another entirely.

[tombogan03884]

There are 100 million gun owners in America, gun laws are what we allow them to be. Obama has a phone and a pen. We have the power to shove them both up his ass.

[Ulmus]

Got a thought here.

Can the Republicans in the House and the Senate work together to revoke the funding for Obama's security detail?  (Like it was done in VA)