Hussein Obama's Gun Grab Plans & Legality

[alfsauve]

My gut feeling is that he will go with option one - something that will not be blatantly unconstitutional, but will allow him to say that he has taken action to greatly expand background checks.

I think he'll push it just a little over the constitutional side.  Just a little.   Playing politics, because now the House and Senate will have to vote to over turn his EO and that will put a lot of people on record one way or another.   Something a lot of them don't want right now.

I think who ever said it earlier is also right.  Someone has convinced the Dems/Libs that gun control is a winning issue this year...   WRONG.

[TAB]

he will do something, what he will do is in question.

[Timothy]

Anything he does can be undone with another EO!

[tombogan03884]

Anything he does can be undone with a rope and a tree. The time for "reasonable debate" is gone . The time has come to either man up and live up to your oath of enlistment or get on the train car like a good little Jew.

[MikeBjerum]

Here is how I see this playing out:

1.  Pres. BHO will issue an Executive Order telling BATFE to regulate gun shows, and requiring all sales at gun shows go through a NICS check.  This will pass legal, because it falls under the rules agencies can put in place much like when OSHA tried to stop reloading shipments under safety rules.  The only way that went away was through the strength and influence of Pres. GWB;

2.  H.R. 4269, The Assault Weapons Ban of 2015, https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4269/textwill continue its way through the system;

3.  Mrs. Clinton will continue and expand her attack on the NRA;

4.  As WE fight the Executive Order, the current administration and Mrs. Clinton will play off of the so called 90% who want universal background checks, and they will claim that the NRA and gun nuts are out of control.  They will take the 50% who think universal checks are good, and through spin doctoring and emotions grow it to 75%,

5.  The Brady Campaign will join in with overblown emotional appeals for common sense;

6.  Bloomberg will ramp up attack with hundreds of millions of dollars, smoke and mirrors, and a full on media blitz.

Unless we prepare, and prepare last week, with facts that the issue is about the actor and not the tool, we will be quickly dismissed as uncaring, cold hearted, redneck, neanderthals.  We need to carry the facts that the gun is less of a threat than personal tools, hands and feet (see FBI Fact Sheet showing hands and feet more often used than long guns), and the failing of the legal system in cases like Dontray Mills.

We need to remember how we look when we make "funny" comments and posts, and push the facts that gun owners and users are safe, reasonable, and law abiding.  Remember boys and girls, Facebook is not your man cave, and gun phobes and gun haters read your jokes.

This has the ability to become the perfect storm that will distract and divide the nation over the next 10 months.

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[Timothy]

Anything he does can be undone with a rope and a tree. The time for "reasonable debate" is gone . The time has come to either man up and live up to your oath of enlistment or get on the train car like a good little Jew.

The Oath also requires that I obey the orders of the president and the officers appointed over me!

How's that gonna work? 

[Solus]

The Oath also requires that I obey the orders of the president and the officers appointed over me!

How's that gonna work? 

Lawful orders....

[dipisc]

Hi;

     Yes Timothy;    Lawful Orders !      If the military ever gets into a power struggle or "put on the spot" I will bet that the military will Stand Down due to mass refusals to obey an unlawful order - there are just too many people in the military that know that they will not oppress people/citizens that are just like their Mom/Dad/brother/sister/aunt/uncle and neighbor back home. Military members will not stand for other military members oppressing family and friends, Therefore, the Military stand down and refusal by the combined JCS - for the good of the service(s) !

    besides, Congress has to approve the funding of any such action(s) against the American People - and that is not going to happen - Just too many people out here with guns and enough out here to use those weapons - when backed up against the wall or SHTF !

     Even Schumer,Polosi,Boxer and Harry Reid want to live and know the score !

[Timothy]

Lawful orders....

True, but the SCOTUS hasn't been too predictable these days.

Whatever he does will be there while he's building his library unless we fight it at the polls.

Will it come down to a rebellion?

I'll fight and die for my family but most of the populous no longer deserves my attention. 

[Timothy]

Hi;

     Yes Timothy;    Lawful Orders !      If the military ever gets into a power struggle or "put on the spot" I will bet that the military will Stand Down due to mass refusals to obey an unlawful order - there are just too many people in the military that know that they will not oppress people/citizens that are just like their Mom/Dad/brother/sister/aunt/uncle and neighbor back home. Military members will not stand for other military members oppressing family and friends, Therefore, the Military stand down and refusal by the combined JCS - for the good of the service(s) !

    besides, Congress has to approve the funding of any such action(s) against the American People - and that is not going to happen - Just too many people out here with guns and enough out here to use those weapons - when backed up against the wall or SHTF !

     Even Schumer,Polosi,Boxer and Harry Reid want to live and know the score !

Don't have a warm happy feeling about the JCS these days, either!  After 7 years, the asshat has replaced the real grunts with his "grunt lite" sort of generals and admirals..