had a shitty day?

[TAB]

Isn't there a code that should prevent that happening?

only needs to be 18" from center to center.   so its often in the same trench... no on my job sites unless it has to be...  then again I often run a ditchwitch for gas,electric( when its not over head) and water so I can put them other places.

[MikeBjerum]

I am still wondering why you had to dig out the mud and load it up.  Does Kalifornia treat it as a hazardous waste?

[TAB]

I am still wondering why you had to dig out the mud and load it up.  Does Kalifornia treat it as a hazardous waste?

   i am not in ka... in or  and yes every where it should be treated as hazardous waste.  you take it to the place that septic trucks dump. ( which is not the waste water treatment plant, its a flat basin where they let it dry out.)


on a side note  my old wheel barrow tire fell apart( one of the 1st tools I bought, so 17 years old)  ran to the local mega cool has every thing( but what you need) home store...  both the ornage and the blue.


long store short you can buy a new wheel barrow for $5 less then buying the tire that fits mine.  forget about getting just the tire and/or tube.

[MikeBjerum]

You need to work in better states!  Even in Blue Minnesota we can make a firm base and then backfill with that material.  Also, you would not have been hand digging that much here.  If someone had broken code and placed things that close together, it would have all been condemned, you could trench away, and lay all new at proper spacing.

[TAB]

You need to work in better states!  Even in Blue Minnesota we can make a firm base and then backfill with that material.  Also, you would not have been hand digging that much here.  If someone had broken code and placed things that close together, it would have all been condemned, you could trench away, and lay all new at proper spacing.

it was too code.  besides when 4 of the 5 house holds you  are trying to do the repair for are scum( aka lawyers) its best not to piss them off.

its also under a garage for part of the distance, which has to be under mined by hand.   I also hate to break it too you, but by both national and int'l code  you must use at least 6" of sand and clean fill. 

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[MikeBjerum]

it was too code.  besides when 4 of the 5 house holds you  are trying to do the repair for are scum( aka lawyers) its best not to piss them off.

its also under a garage for part of the distance, which has to be under mined by hand.   I also hate to break it too you, but by both national and int'l code  you must use at least 6" of sand and clean fill.

Clean sewage soaked soil, no chemical or heavy metal, is still clean fill in most states.  Here you must probe trench  on sides and bottom for objects in both gas and electric, and gas must also receive a locating wire and both get ribbon in the trench.

Explain to me why there are a multitude of regulations for the last few feet of these lines, but the mains can be blind trenched, plowed, and directional bored.  Why do we have septic system rules that change faster than you can get your system certified, but municipalities can dump contaminated water in the rivers and even get emergency permits to dump raw.

[TAB]

ask your local building department if  dirt that has been exposed to raw sewage for 17 years is legal for fill.

[MikeBjerum]

I just finished several years on our utility commission.  Our city is still completing projects I signed the bid acceptance and bonds for.

Parts of this include repair of sanitary and storm infiltration, repair and replacement of services to homes, and abandonment of the last several septic systems in the community.  A new project set to start this fall is cleaning the treatment ponds.  All removed material will either be added to the berms or spread on local farm fields, with the exception of one small area that will go as hazardous, because it is where the shot from our trap range falls.

[tombogan03884]

There is a debate going on here about using "bio-solids" on farms and gardens.
I'm not a gardener so it's never been of interest to me.
Don't know much beyond the fact that Asia has been using crap on rice fields for centuries.

[Solus]

There is a debate going on here about using "bio-solids" on farms and gardens.
I'm not a gardener so it's never been of interest to me.
Don't know much beyond the fact that Asia has been using crap on rice fields for centuries.

Was into gardening for several years and  Horse crap, cow crap and elephant crap were fine (elephant crap the best) but NEVER use human crap...they said.