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Re: Old low technology applied to a modern "prepper" need
« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2017, 07:23:13 AM »
 After about 3 weeks the levels drop dramatically and since I live 25-30 miles outside a city (target) I'm hoping 3-4 feet should do it.  But, for now, that's just a pipe dream.
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Re: Old low technology applied to a modern "prepper" need
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2017, 03:30:14 PM »
I wonder how much shielding a typical above ground pool would give to a shelter room under 5 or 6 feet of dirt directly under it?


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Re: Old low technology applied to a modern "prepper" need
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2017, 03:35:21 PM »
I'm not in a first-strike nuke zone. Second or third? Who knows? Flint is less of a target than it used to be because of GM closing half of the local plants but we still have manufacturing capability. Not enough to make all the weapons they made during WWII but enough that an enemy might want to nuke it. I'm not too worried about it.
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Re: Old low technology applied to a modern "prepper" need
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2017, 05:12:37 PM »
Quote from: tombogan03884 on July 29, 2017, 05:56:33 AM
Build something earth sheltered .
10 feet of dirt is supposed to shield you from all harmful radiation.

Quote from: Rastus on July 29, 2017, 07:23:13 AM
After about 3 weeks the levels drop dramatically and since I live 25-30 miles outside a city (target) I'm hoping 3-4 feet should do it.  But, for now, that's just a pipe dream.


Three or four Conex containers (relatively cheap) and a rented backhoe and you're in business.  ;D
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Re: Old low technology applied to a modern "prepper" need
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2017, 06:50:31 PM »
Quote from: Solus on July 29, 2017, 03:30:14 PM
I wonder how much shielding a typical above ground pool would give to a shelter room under 5 or 6 feet of dirt directly under it?

A lot.  Water stops neutron radiation too.  In the oil business we run pulsed neutron logging tools that are pretty hot.  They have a chemical source switched on with electricity.  The depth of investigation is no more than about 12 inches. 

I bet 4-6 feet of dirt would be plenty.

Quote from: PegLeg45 on July 29, 2017, 05:12:37 PM

Three or four Conex containers (relatively cheap) and a rented backhoe and you're in business.  ;D

I actually have a short one I bought for $500.  Now I need a backyard I can dig a hole in....
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Re: Old low technology applied to a modern "prepper" need
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Re: Old low technology applied to a modern "prepper" need
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2017, 06:55:16 PM »
better make sure its water tight 1st... 


honestly there are better solutions.   I have done a few "bunkers" over the years the precast panels were always the most cost effective choice. 
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Re: Old low technology applied to a modern "prepper" need
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2017, 09:02:27 PM »
Precast concrete.  Tell me more.  Sizes, how they were joined, how they were sealed, etc.....

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Re: Old low technology applied to a modern "prepper" need
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2017, 10:43:05 PM »
8,'x4'x8"   sealed with the same stuff you use on a tilt up.  Braces welded on the top.  They also had a tongue and grove sides for lack of a better term.  You can even get them made to bank vualt strength, metal spirals and all.   They are often used for basements as well.
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Re: Old low technology applied to a modern "prepper" need
« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2017, 10:46:38 PM »
[urlhttps://youtu.be/m6xP4HTa2t4[/url]


Quick search, not exactly, but simlar idea.
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Re: Old low technology applied to a modern "prepper" need
« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2017, 12:13:14 PM »
Quote from: TAB on July 29, 2017, 10:46:38 PM
[urlhttps://youtu.be/m6xP4HTa2t4[/url]


Quick search, not exactly, but simlar idea.

When I search for that I don't come up with a valid link.
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