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MikeBjerum

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Liberal Greed Never Changes
« on: August 14, 2017, 03:08:01 PM »
I titled this thread with the word greed for a reason.  It is because it is about taking someone else's money to fix everyone's issue.

This is an old article, about seven years, but the talk is the same last year and even today, well into a new administration (not by the President, but openly and behind closed doors by most elected and appointed officials).

https://gfbrandenburg.wordpress.com/2010/11/24/a-little-math-to-pay-off-the-entire-national-debt-in-one-year/

My issue with this goes beyond taking from one group over the rest.  What would happen if the entire national debt, or even a large portion of it, was gone quickly?  We would be in as deep or deeper before the end of the first 12 months!  This is a proven fact.  Look what happens to people and businesses that take loans to consolidate or shift debt.  Look at what happens when a large prize, gift, or inheritance comes the way of those who are not responsible.

If we do not dig our way out of debt through a process of reevaluation of our expenditures, raising revenue will never cover the bills or debts.  If we do not adjust our tax code to become simpler, and that equally, percentage wise, spreads the burden to all classes, we will never find balance between spending and revenues.  These are simple facts and processes that are understood by a few, but ridiculed by most.

What will keep us in debt?  "Democracy will work until [elected officials] learn they can buy their office [through government spending]."
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Re: Liberal Greed Never Changes
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2017, 04:42:41 PM »
It's the same old, "Tax The Rich!", mantra. The problem with this type of idiotic thinking, is the top 1% of the wealthiest people already pay 50% of the available collected income tax. (Liberal CNBC article).

https://www.cnbc.com/2015/04/13/top-1-pay-nearly-half-of-federal-income-taxes.html

Now these geniuses think they should pay the other half, along with paying off the National Debt as well. Someone should teach these idiots simple math. It's already been proven, (with that same simple math), if you took 100% of their income, it wouldn't be enough to run the Federal government for 3 months out of the year. But it doesn't matter. They never stop with their empty, foolish "economics". Look at Venezuela. It's awash with nationalized oil. The people are starving and rioting in the streets. No matter how you try to add up socialist thinking, you always get the same result..... Economic disaster. Ask them how that debt was accumulated in the first place? The problem isn't too little revenue..... IT'S TOO MUCH SPENDING.

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Re: Liberal Greed Never Changes
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2017, 10:36:50 PM »
The rest of the world owes the U.S. almost as much as we owe the rest of the world. We should collect on all of those debts and use the money to pay our own debt down. We also give money to 96% of all countries in the world. If we quit giving away money to over 180 countries, many of them unfriendly to us, we could apply all that money to our national debt too. Cut the "pork barrel" spending and we might not have any debt at all. Taxes don't need to be raised for anyone in the whole country.
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Re: Liberal Greed Never Changes
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2017, 06:03:30 AM »
The rest of the world owes the U.S. almost as much as we owe the rest of the world. We should collect on all of those debts and use the money to pay our own debt down. We also give money to 96% of all countries in the world. If we quit giving away money to over 180 countries, many of them unfriendly to us, we could apply all that money to our national debt too. Cut the "pork barrel" spending and we might not have any debt at all. Taxes don't need to be raised for anyone in the whole country.

Agree 100%. As I said, the problem isn't revenue, and has never been. The problem is spending. I've always liked this because it's directly to the point, and it illustrates the point so anyone.... except a liberal, can understand it. You can tell by the size of the debt, it's a few years old. But the principal is the same.


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Re: Liberal Greed Never Changes
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2017, 04:06:50 PM »
I am 100% debt free(out side of tue monthly credit card balance that gets blanked out at the end of the month, ).   I currently have 19 employees 9 trucks, 26 cell phones, an office, shop, cnc router, home 40 acres waiting too be built on....all of them owned out right.   How did I do it?   Busted my ass for 15 years, then moved  too adifferent state, went from constant unavoidable debt, to actually keeping the money I make   4 years is all it took. 

Before, 60% of my gross went to bs(insurance, comp, permits and fees)  now its less then half that.    Its really that simple, cut my overhead in half, started too actually be able too keep money in the bank.   Funny thing, I still drive a 20 year old truck, I spend very little on myself   hell if it was not for the little women, I would spend under 10k a year too live   
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: Liberal Greed Never Changes
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2017, 04:30:27 PM »
Quote from: TAB link=topic=32549.msg316487#msg316487
hell if it was not for the little women, I would spend under 10k a year too live

She knows her way around a knife!  Best keep her swimming in shiny baubles or whatever it takes to keep you in her good graces!

I'm twice yer age, wisdom for the females graces is my expertise!

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Re: Liberal Greed Never Changes
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2017, 04:59:03 PM »
There are two theories on how to predict what a woman will want or do.

Neither one works.....
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Re: Liberal Greed Never Changes
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2017, 06:29:22 PM »
She knows her way around a knife!  Best keep her swimming in shiny baubles or whatever it takes to keep you in her good graces!

I'm twice yer age, wisdom for the females graces is my expertise!

LOL

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diamonds and sapphires.

I am just saying.   ;D

Well and dumb, smelly guys that can lift heavy things.  (Aka me)
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: Liberal Greed Never Changes
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2017, 05:35:58 PM »
Agree 100%. As I said, the problem isn't revenue, and has never been. The problem is spending. I've always liked this because it's directly to the point, and it illustrates the point so anyone.... except a liberal, can understand it. You can tell by the size of the debt, it's a few years old. But the principal is the same.



Putting it in the context of a household budget is brilliant. I don't believe I've ever seen that before. If your credit card balance is 6.5(?) years total income you're doing something wrong. Something very wrong.
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