NEW FORUM RULES 9/07/08 — Please Read!

[jaybet]

Man, I wish I'd had SPEE CHECK way back Ween....

So Rastus.....you found somebody to do a trigger job on your ***** ***?  I didn't know anyone had figured out how to do that! Or are you just ******* with us?

[ericire12]

Hre ya go Gman

http://www.iespell.com/

It heps me a consederble banch as ya kin sea.

Firefox has one built in.

[tombogan03884]

Firefox has one built in.

Makes my posts readable, just click on the red underlined words, also reminds me to put the darn ' in that's 

[mosbear]

Mosbear,...I thought I needed a second 45 before they got banned (it was looking really bleak a few months back, remember?) so I picked up an M&P on recommendation of some gun people at USSA, had a gunsmith put a trigger job on it and   W - O - W .  Very sweet trigger now, I asked for 4.5 lbs and it's so dang good I picked up an M&P 9MM and had the trigger work performed before the first shot.....also sweet....still a striker with some takeup...but it breaks like glass same place same weight (actually measured) every time.   The same gunsmith has my ***** *** pistol and I'm hoping he can do something with it.

Rastus,

Don't want to highjack the thread, but I wish MB had S&W for a sponsor instead of Ruger. With all the usual maturity problems with M&Ps, Smith's customer service is a top notch. Shooting M&P9 with 17 round mag in rapid fire mode does feel like full auto, doesn’t it?

[Mr.45]

Understood.

[Sponsor]

[Rastus]

OH wait!  Ya mean a supressor?  Where?  How much?

I decided to go whole hog...I'm thinking AAC Prodigy.  Something I can take apart and clean.  I started out just wanting the Pilot but really want something I can clean so if it's "off-the-shelf" I'll order a Prodigy.  If I have to wait for AAC to make a production run on them....been there done that, never again...I'll buy something from someone else.

[DDMac]

Oh, to live somewhere rational on the issue of suppressors.

NC is NOT!!.

Mac.

[twyacht]

Oh, to live somewhere rational on the issue of suppressors.

NC is NOT!!.

Mac.

You can bet Bev Perdue doesn't want 'em......

[tombogan03884]

Oh, to live somewhere rational on the issue of suppressors.

NC is NOT!!.

Mac.

This is something that's been bugging me, Suppressors are regulated under NFA, a FEDERAL law, if you pay the tax and do the paperwork FEDERAL govt. says have fun. How can a STATE over ride FEDERAL law and say no ?

MB, I've been thinking about this since I first read your "turd  post",You wrote "Does the fact that virtually every Colt Gold Cup will eventually snap the roll pin that holds the rear sight in place and launch the sight into the heavens — something that has been common knowledge for decades — make Colt Gold Cups turds?" the answer to that is YES. granted things made by men fail, however if they consistently fail in the same fashion it is a design flaw that could and SHOULD be fixed. ESPECIALY if it has been common knowledge for decades. I realize that production machining is not your thing, you shoot guns, help design guns write about guns, but you do not manufacture, guns or anything else of the sort so here goes. In manufacturing they have what is called "the corrective action process in quality control" The whole process is summed up by any 3 year old, WHY? Why were these items sent back? Because the rear sight came off. Why ? because the roll pin snapped. Why? OK I don't know why the roll pins snap so I'll skip to the next question, Can we fix the problem ? Yes, since the problem is holding 2 parts together we have options such as drilling and tapping to add a screw to existing items or a tack weld even. The next question in the process is can we prevent this from happening again ? Again since the problem is holding 2 parts together the answer is yes, redesign the sight mounting system to be stronger and either do away with the roll pin or retain it only as a secondary method of retention as it is not enough by itself, Such redesigns might be using a dovetail, or a larger dovetail, possibly using screws to attach the sight instead of pins. Since I don't specifically remember ever seeing a Gold cup I really can't give detailed info on the fix, but I think you get my drift. If a mass produced item consistently fails in the same manner YES it is a turd, it may be one you can work with as in this case, but it is an engineering failure that a company can and WILL fix if it respects its customers.
Unfortunately, to many companies take the attitude of the 19th century robber baron (railroad tycoon, I forget which one ) who said "Damn the consumer".

[DDMac]

Tom, here's what I think. The NFA passed in the 30's when State's Rights was a big deal and the Feds did not have the now-prevalent inclination to come in and "Federalize" everything. The language recognizes the right of the States to more strictly regulate firearms as defined under Sec 5861, but retains the Federal law as a minimum, "reasonable" standard.

 If you are a Federal licensee and Special Occupational Taxpayer (NFA FFL), you are generally exempt from what firearms a State restricts or bans under State law. But if you are just a regular guy, if the State says NO, the Feds concur.

THATS where I have a problem with NC. Suppressors are harder to qualify for than full auto. Diffrent, more restricted regulation, which would end up costing about 3 Grand for a can for a .22.

Mac.