Author Topic: We’re f@#ked!  (Read 6018 times)

Timothy

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We’re f@#ked!
« on: January 06, 2021, 11:07:17 AM »
So, who do we blame for the loss of the Republic?

tombogan03884

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Re: We’re f@#ked!
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2021, 12:59:21 PM »
Blame the founders.
They based the whole thing on "Honest votes by informed voters".
We don't have either one.
  #1  Voting should be in person on election day, at the appointed place, by verified tax paying citizens only.
Oh but that will disenfranchise the "poor".
Yep. Sure will.
It will put the Govt back in the hands of the people PAYING for it.
F%$k the poor people, look at their lives and ask yourself if you want them telling you how to run yours ?

#2  Do away with the Civil service system.
Go back to the patronage system so neither party can plant long term operatives with in the agencies .

#3 Apply "truth in advertising laws to political ads.

Timothy

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Re: We’re f@#ked!
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2021, 05:18:36 PM »
Ya can’t punish dead folks Tom!

There is plenty of blame for both parties, regardless!  I’m done...  The country I swore to defend and protect is gone and I can no longer do anything about it!

tombogan03884

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Re: We’re f@#ked!
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2021, 08:44:30 AM »
Note: The source for this transcription is the first printing of the Declaration of Independence, the broadside produced by John Dunlap on the night of July 4, 1776. Nearly every printed or manuscript edition of the Declaration of Independence has slight differences in punctuation, capitalization, and even wording. To find out more about the diverse textual tradition of the Declaration, check out our Which Version is This, and Why Does it Matter? resource.

        WHEN in the Course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the Separation.
          We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness—-That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security. Such has been the patient Sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the Necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The History of the present King of Great-Britain is a History of repeated Injuries and Usurpations, all having in direct Object the Establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid World.
          He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public Good.
          He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing Importance, unless suspended in their Operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
          He has refused to pass other Laws for the Accommodation of large Districts of People, unless those People would relinquish the Right of Representation in the Legislature, a Right inestimable to them, and formidable to Tyrants only.
          He has called together Legislative Bodies at Places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the Depository of their public Records, for the sole Purpose of fatiguing them into Compliance with his Measures.
          He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly Firmness his Invasions on the Rights of the People.
          He has refused for a long Time, after such Dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the Dangers of Invasion from without, and Convulsions within.
          He has endeavoured to prevent the Population of these States; for that Purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their Migrations hither, and raising the Conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
          He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.
          He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the Tenure of their Offices, and the Amount and Payment of their Salaries.
          He has erected a Multitude of new Offices, and sent hither Swarms of Officers to harrass our People, and eat out their Substance.
          He has kept among us, in Times of Peace, Standing Armies, without the consent of our Legislatures.
          He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.
          He has combined with others to subject us to a Jurisdiction foreign to our Constitution, and unacknowledged by our Laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
          For quartering large Bodies of Armed Troops among us:
          For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from Punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
          For cutting off our Trade with all Parts of the World:
          For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
          For depriving us, in many Cases, of the Benefits of Trial by Jury:
          For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended Offences:
          For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an arbitrary Government, and enlarging its Boundaries, so as to render it at once an Example and fit Instrument for introducing the same absolute Rule into these Colonies:
          For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
          For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with Power to legislate for us in all Cases whatsoever.
          He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
          He has plundered our Seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our Towns, and destroyed the Lives of our People.
          He is, at this Time, transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the Works of Death, Desolation, and Tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty and Perfidy, scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous Ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized Nation.
          He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the Executioners of their Friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
          He has excited domestic Insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the Inhabitants of our Frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known Rule of Warfare, is an undistinguished Destruction, of all Ages, Sexes and Conditions.
          In every stage of these Oppressions we have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble Terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated Injury. A Prince, whose Character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the Ruler of a free People.
          Nor have we been wanting in Attentions to our British Brethren. We have warned them from Time to Time of Attempts by their Legislature to extend an unwarrantable Jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the Circumstances of our Emigration and Settlement here. We have appealed to their native Justice and Magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the Ties of our common Kindred to disavow these Usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our Connections and Correspondence. They too have been deaf to the Voice of Justice and of Consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the Necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of Mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace, Friends.
          We, therefore, the Representatives of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the World for the Rectitude of our Intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly Publish and Declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be, Free and Independent States; that they are absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political Connection between them and the State of Great-Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm Reliance on the Protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

Signed by Order and in Behalf of the Congress,
JOHN HANCOCK, President.

Attest.
CHARLES THOMSON, Secretary.

Timothy

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Re: We’re f@#ked!
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2021, 10:58:32 AM »
That last paragraph of such a fine document is our current problem. We have no representation left in Congress or Washington DC that would be willing to put forth the effort to overthrow our current governmental mess!

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Re: We’re f@#ked!
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Timothy

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Re: We’re f@#ked!
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2021, 02:19:54 PM »
Permission to make an analogy!

Trump’s last 3 years, 11-1/2 months is akin to the 07 Super Bowl 42!

Three quarters and 13 minutes of good football but the only thing people remember is the Pats losing in the last two minutes to the Giants!  A perfect season spoiled late in the game!

Don’t even want to comment on that dipstick McConnel!

tombogan03884

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Re: We’re f@#ked!
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2021, 07:48:00 PM »
Here's the way I see it.
On here we are mostly old enough that they won't be our problem for that long .
Balance between bad habits and modern science 90ish.
See what the young ones do then give them lots of nastier ideas.   ;D

Jim Kennedy-ar154me

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Re: We’re f@#ked!
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2021, 09:11:54 AM »
OK. What do we do now? I am trying to organize my local friends using sneaker net and masked emails. Our platforms, including this one, will soon be under attack. I don't like what is happening to this country any more than any of you do but I also do not know WHAT it will take to get the populace to understand that this last occurrence should be akin to the "shot heard around the world". What will it take, if anything, to motivate people into a coordinated resistance, civil disobedience, etc...? Like a lot of gentlemen here I am older and realistically not in shape to fight on the "Front line" but have the knowledge and some experience to help those that are.

What to do? What to do???? That is a question I need to find an answer for.
The time for action is upon us and the enemy is at our gates. Let us not allow them one more inch of advancement but instead throw them through the gates of Hell.

Timothy

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Re: We’re f@#ked!
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2021, 09:41:23 AM »
I’m hoping I’m dead way before 90! 

LOL

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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2021, 09:43:18 AM »
I’m hoping I’m dead way before 90! 

LOL

Me too but I still have a few years left! (I'm 65)....  ;) ;) ;) ;)
The time for action is upon us and the enemy is at our gates. Let us not allow them one more inch of advancement but instead throw them through the gates of Hell.

 

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