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Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2022, 07:51:39 AM »
Russia will win the battles, but ultimately lose the war. Just like we did in Vietnam and Afghanistan. And the Soviets did in Afghanistan as well. We, (and the Russians), are good at coming in with overwhelming force. We, (and they), simply have the large numbers and superior weapons starting out.

But fighting a guerrilla war takes undying fortitude. We didn't have it in Vietnam or Afghanistan, because it just wasn't worth the blood and treasure. And it's the same for Putin here. The Ukrainian people are much like the Mujahideen were in Afghanistan.

They simply won't quit, and will fight to the death of the last man. Russia has never fought a war like that. It's different when you're fighting on your own soil, that someone else wants to take away from you. As opposed to invading to add to your countries glory and size. The Ukrainian's HAVE to fight. The Russians were TOLD to fight.

These people have no where else to go. They would rather die than lose. We can't even imagine fighting a war like that. And neither can the Russian army. Remember, they were never on board with this whole thing to begin with. Putin pumped them full of bull$h!t.

That's what it all boils down to, Bill. The Ukrainians have something to lose in this war and the Russians don't. The Russians may or not gain something by it, but they have nothing to lose, other than individual lives which don't matter to leaders like Putin. The Ukrainians DO have something to to lose, their homeland, and will fight dearly to protect it, as surely as real Americans would fight to save our homeland from an invading army.
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Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2022, 10:19:55 AM »
as surely as real Americans would fight to save our homeland from an invading army.

I hope there are enough of us left to do so when needed!
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Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #33 on: June 26, 2022, 04:30:42 AM »
A few days ago I heard it wasn't going well for Ukraine. I don't remember anything except they retreated from an area which was hard to travel (no roads) and the Russians who occupied the land on both sides closed the gap. Now the Russians had a solid front all the way across where ever it was. It looked like the southeast border of Ukraine on the map I saw but I really wasn't paying attention. It sounded like "the world's 2nd 3rd mightiest army?" was finally starting to accomplish the kind of thing they should have been able to do during the first couple of days.
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Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #34 on: June 26, 2022, 06:21:10 AM »
This thing is really dragging out.  From the news we hear alarms that we are sending all of our supplies to Ukraine leaving ourselves in a bad way for our own defense.  To that I say who was our adversary?  Isn't our adversary losing conventional capability and spending money without our troops bleeding???

Now how long is this ongoing effort by Russia to last?  That may be a real issue for us.   They have an ally in China that will provide them all of the computer chips and rare earth metals needed to replace sophisticated armament and AK's and ammo.  What war material replacement capability do we have compared to Russia and China?   

I always thought in a real shooting war things would go hot and whatever your bring to the table is what you fight with.  Half an hour or so later it would not matter because it would be over....bad assumption. 

Can we mobilize like we did in WWII?  Is there time enough for that?  Is that even possible with the clown crew running the White House?

 
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Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
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Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #35 on: June 26, 2022, 08:06:26 AM »
Anytime Ol' Rootin' Tootin' Pootin's guys are dying in combat and our guys aren't even there it's a good thing.
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Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #36 on: June 26, 2022, 05:39:52 PM »
Putin 'Scraping the Bottom of the Barrel' as He Drags Shockingly Obese General Out of Retirement to Replace Dead, Injured Top Brass.

67 year old General Pavel described as being obese and weighing 280 pounds.
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Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2022, 05:18:07 AM »
A big fat general makes for some good PR.  But if he knows what he's doing it doesn't matter whether he's fat or made out of paper mache'. 

Finland and Sweden are making haste to get into NATO.  From that effort I surmise they have intel that Ukraine is not Putin's ultimate goal.  To me, it sounds like the Swedes are running scared.
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Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #38 on: July 04, 2022, 10:56:24 AM »
A big fat general makes for some good PR.  But if he knows what he's doing it doesn't matter whether he's fat or made out of paper mache'. 

Finland and Sweden are making haste to get into NATO.  From that effort I surmise they have intel that Ukraine is not Putin's ultimate goal.  To me, it sounds like the Swedes are running scared.

Today Kyiv. Tomorrow the world!  That's all Putin wants. Nothing more.

He very well could have cholesterol plaques building up in the arteries of his brain. If so, maybe it would affect his decision making ability, maybe not. But it does make him more likely to have a stroke or TIA. Then they'll have to find an even older, more decrepit general somewhere to replace him. And it can't be easy finding one of those still alive.

Does the general's uniform remind anyone else of a pair of pajamas?  Pavel's pajamas in Big Boy's sizes.* Camo jammies for the fat &^%$ who wants to feel comfortable and in command.  It almost sounds like the tagline for a commercial.  ;D

* As in Big Boy restaurants, not just boys who are big.
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Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #39 on: July 04, 2022, 11:06:55 AM »
Yeah well, if he's running it now by all appearances he's doing a better job than his predecessors.
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