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Re: RIA USA VRF14 12 gauge firearm
« Reply #50 on: April 10, 2025, 01:02:13 AM »
More camo Duck tape. I was using my 12 gauge bore brush but misplaced it. I only have one so I used an M16 chamber brush to scrub the bore. Only the small part that goes in the barrel extension made contact and it was a little too loose for my liking, but it worked. I was able to brush back and forth inside the bore instead of going all the way through each pass because it was too small. That finally knocked al the crud out.
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Re: RIA USA VRF14 12 gauge firearm
« Reply #51 on: April 11, 2025, 08:44:06 PM »
I was looking at the Duck tape on the forend and decided it needed some at the other end to help balance it out. So I wrapped a single piece around the back. I decided it still needed more camo, so I took the camo bandage off my bayonet handles and put it on. There wasn't much and it's been stretched out and reused too many times, and it wasn't going to work on the rear grip. So I put it all on the VFG, and it's well padded and comfortable to hang onto. I thought about sticking some tape on the sides of the mag well but probably won't. I may wrap the rear grip if I buy more camo bandage, but otherwise, I think I'm done messing with it.

There's a pair of CR123A batteries in the VFG to use in the WML. They're on a rubber battery sled that slides in and out and they don't rattle at all. The MFT REACT Ergonomic Vertical Grip worked really well after I ground the ridge off between the top 2 finger grooves. Since 123 batteries are 17 mm in diameter, they don't fit side by side like the 14.5mm wide AA batteries in the picture. They're 6mm wider, but they do stack one atop the other with a tiny tab of rubber in between them, on the other side of the battery sled. The rails on my gun are too narrow and I tightened the screw on the grip so far I had to put a nut on the other end where it stuck out. I would recommend both the grip and the gun. The VRF14 is only $289.00, and the pump-action VRPF14 is only $260.00 at Advanced Tactical. You could get BOTH of these American made firearms for $549. If they were any cheaper you could pass them out as party favors. ;)

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Re: RIA USA VRF14 12 gauge firearm
« Reply #52 on: April 12, 2025, 03:25:50 PM »
Maybe next year when I have some my financial matters sorted, I'll remove the screw under the camo Duck tape and finish the evolution of my not-a-shotgun into a short barrel shotgun. I combined these 2 pics so you can see how much I shortened the CAR-15 stock. It was close to 1 1/2 inches.
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Re: RIA USA VRF14 12 gauge firearm
« Reply #53 on: May 10, 2025, 02:45:55 AM »
This isn't a pistol, so it's not a pistol brace, but I think this is legal, since it doesn't have a stock on it and can't be shouldered. I couldn't even put the stock on over all that duck tape if I tried. Before I put the "buffer tube" part on, the stock didn't seem to have any play in it. But I have a better idea now what the length of pull will be when I go get it stocked. As near as I can tell the minimum L.O.P. will be nearly exactly 13.5", which is just about perfect for me. I don't need a 14"+ L.O.P. on a shotgun stock. Unless I butcher the stock even further, that's as short as it can get, and as long as it needs to be. It will never need to be adjusted and could be glued up solid.

If anyone has any doubt about the "firearm brace" being legal, please speak up. It would only take me a couple minutes to take it back off if I start doubting it. It might possibly be long enough to put against my side when I shoot from the hip, but I'm not sure. It's hard to get a feel for it without actually trying it.
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Re: RIA USA VRF14 12 gauge firearm
« Reply #54 on: May 19, 2025, 08:29:26 PM »
I had an AR rifle buffer I wasn't using anymore since I don't have a rifle stock on either lower. I ground and filed the shoulder on it flat with the adjoining area, as in the top of the first pic, right of center. I ground and filed the flared end, far right, slightly larger than that, so it just fit in the stock tube of the VRF14. Then I wrapped friction tape on the other end, right up to the edge where the rubber tip meets the metal. I actually had too much tape and took off about 3 layers, a layer at a time, until it was a very snug fit. I started the buffer into the tube, and covered it with Amazing Goop between the tape and the other end. It fit so tightly, I had to hammer it in the last 2 inches because I couldn't push it in by hand. The end of the buffer is ~1/8" from the end of the tube. I used a Birchwood Casey flat black paint pen to cover the end of the buffer. It looks like I missed a spot but I didn't.

I don't know if the moving weights in the buffer will do anything to help with recoil, but the extra weight will. I balanced the empty gun on the edge of a wooden ruler, and the balance point seems to be ~1/4" forward of the front of the mag well. A loaded mag should move the balance point right into the mag. Now there's a VRF-14  LONG with a stock and 20" barrel. It's made in the U.S.A. and the MSRP is only $358. That's even cheaper than the VR60 shotgun made in Turkey that the VRF14 is based on. You know I'll be getting one. It looks like it only comes with 1 mag, but that will be a total of 10 that I have for both guns.

PS. I have an M16A4 carry handle I can put on the shotgun, but no matching front sight. I'll have to buy one if I use the carry handle.

P.P.S. The VRF14 Long takes interchangeable stocks, meaning it can take a side-folding adaptor, like my VRF14.
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Re: RIA USA VRF14 12 gauge firearm
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Re: RIA USA VRF14 12 gauge firearm
« Reply #55 on: May 21, 2025, 10:13:50 PM »
I was all excited about the VRF-14 Long and ready to order one, but it wasn't too long before another art of my brain said, Wait a minute. If I get the stock on my VRF-14, then get a VRF-14 Long, it would be 2 of the same thing, except the new one would have a 6" longer barrel, and the stock wouldn't fold. Suddenly it seemed less appealing. A NcSTAR VISM SHOTGUN GRIP ADAPTER - LEFT FOLDING STOCK ADAPTER / BLACK, is only $13.11, less than half price, at ABCSPORTZ. That would take care of that problem. But, unlike an AR, I don't think a 20" barrel offers much ballistic advantage over a 14" barrel on a 12 gauge. If my Form 1 gets turned down and I can't make an SBS out of my gun, I will probably buy the Long version and put the folding stock on it instead. Then get 1.5" trimmed off the end of the barrel.

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