Another Noob question

[Ksail101]

I was listening to some past podcasts and I landed on the one that Mr. Bane was talking about his Mag-na-Port Charter Arms Bulldog. So I decided to go to Charter Arms' website and check out said revolver.

Under the product line list there was choices of which revoiver you want to look at. I saw an acronym that I dont understand. I saw of course DAO (Double action only), but then I saw Std. This is meant to be "Standard"? and then I assume that means that it is a double action pistol with the option of firing single action as well?

http://www.charterfirearms.com/products/Charter_Firearms_products.html

Sorry if this a really dumb question and I am just a Newbie.

Also this morning, I am at my cabin and the cafe here has internet, I was shooting my Puma with some 158 gr .357 mag into an old Buick and some Bottles I found layin around in the pit. I am still surpised at the pop that gun gives my shoulder. But man, do I love it!!!!!!!

[PegLeg45]

You are correct, Ksail.

Std: means they have a hammer and thusly may be used single or double action.
DAO: is their term for 'hammerless', thus making them double action only.

Model:         13820
Finish:        Blue
Frame:        Stainless steel
Grip:              Full
Barrel length:  2"
Capacity:        5-shot
Caliber:       .38 Special +P
Hammer:       Standard
Weight:       16 oz.
Sugg Retail:   $330.00

http://www.charterfirearms.com/products/Charter_Undercover_13820.html

Model:         13811
Finish:        Blue
Frame:        Stainless steel
Grip:             Compact
Barrel length:  2"
Capacity:        5-shot
Caliber:       .38 Special +P
Hammer:       DAO
Weight:       16 oz.
Sugg Retail:   $330.00

http://www.charterfirearms.com/products/Charter_Undercover_13811.html

[Ksail101]

Hey thanks Peg I have developed a strong interest in revolvers in the last few months. Now I know mostly that has to do with the John Wayne movies that play on repeat at my house, but still I have always been an auto guy, now I dream of Cowboy guns (Ruger Vaquero and of course the Peace Maker) and the Smith and Wesson 325 Thunder Ranch. So I think some future purchases are coming to light 

[PegLeg45]

Revolvers definitely have a place in the world. I love my single action Rugers and have had several double actions in the past.
We can find them really well priced in my area.
My brother-in-law bought a Taurus Mod 85 in .38 spl, a Rossi snubby in .357, and a Charter Arms .38 spl for a $100 each at a local pawn shop where he lives (about 35 miles from me). Even without the discount, the prices were good (<$150).
He does get a LEO discount and he can get the same discount for me too (I got a like new Marlin 60 .22 rifle for $60).

Good Luck.
 

[ericire12]

Revolvers definitely have a place in the world. I love my single action Rugers and have had several double actions in the past.
We can find them really well priced in my area.
My brother-in-law bought a Taurus Mod 85 in .38 spl, a Rossi snubby in .357, and a Charter Arms .38 spl for a $100 each at a local pawn shop where he lives (about 35 miles from me). Even without the discount, the prices were good (<$150).
He does get a LEO discount and he can get the same discount for me too (I got a like new Marlin 60 .22 rifle for $60).

Good Luck.
 

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[tombogan03884]

Revolvers definitely have a place in the world. I love my single action Rugers and have had several double actions in the past.
We can find them really well priced in my area.
My brother-in-law bought a Taurus Mod 85 in .38 spl, a Rossi snubby in .357, and a Charter Arms .38 spl for a $100 each at a local pawn shop where he lives (about 35 miles from me). Even without the discount, the prices were good (<$150).
He does get a LEO discount and he can get the same discount for me too (I got a like new Marlin 60 .22 rifle for $60).

Good Luck.
 

I hate you, and your Brother in law to, (To para phrase from the Wizard of Oz)

[m25operator]

On my high horse again,  >:(there is double action and there is single action and there is even a tri-action.

1)  Single action, cock it and pull the trigger it go's bang, in a semi-auto, you cock it once and the slide cocks it for you, but you pull the trigger it go's bang, but only after cocking the hammer or striker. No other way it fires.

2) Double action, there are 2 ways of making the firearm discharge, cocking it and firing, or just pulling the trigger, which cocks the hammer and fires. 2 distinct methods of discharging the round.

3) Tri-action is really a double action, you can cock the hammer, or pre-load the hammer spring against the hammer, or just pull the trigger.

4) Double action only, is a made up term, to define, shooting the firearm by pulling the trigger only, and not being able to cock the hammer manually. But since that is the only method of firing, it is by definition a single action.

5) For the term DAO, I prefer trigger cocking only.

[Big Frank]

On my high horse again,  >:(there is double action and there is single action and there is even a tri-action.

1)  Single action, cock it and pull the trigger it go's bang, in a semi-auto, you cock it once and the slide cocks it for you, but you pull the trigger it go's bang, but only after cocking the hammer or striker. No other way it fires.

2) Double action, there are 2 ways of making the firearm discharge, cocking it and firing, or just pulling the trigger, which cocks the hammer and fires. 2 distinct methods of discharging the round.

3) Tri-action is really a double action, you can cock the hammer, or pre-load the hammer spring against the hammer, or just pull the trigger.

4) Double action only, is a made up term, to define, shooting the firearm by pulling the trigger only, and not being able to cock the hammer manually. But since that is the only method of firing, it is by definition a single action.

5) For the term DAO, I prefer trigger cocking only.

Double-action and single-action refer to how many different actions the trigger performs, not how many modes of operation are available. Most people know that and have agreed on the definitions since at least the 19th century. I know you have your own definition, but in this case you're wrong.

In single-action the trigger performs a single action - firing.
In double-action the trigger performs two actions - cocking and firing.
DA/SA offers both modes of fire. You get to choose.
DAO is just what it says - double-action only. No single action.

[TSB]

Double-action and single-action refer to how many different actions the trigger performs, not how many modes of operation are available. Most people know that and have agreed on the definitions since at least the 19th century. I know you have your own definition, but in this case you're wrong.

In single-action the trigger performs a single action - firing.
In double-action the trigger performs two actions - cocking and firing.
DA/SA offers both modes of fire. You get to choose.
DAO is just what it says - double-action only. No single action.

+1.....

[Big Frank]

Here's an NRA Certified Pistol Instructor, explaining SA, DA, and DAO. The Charter Arms "standard" would be a conventional DA. Since it also has SA too it's sometimes refered to as DA/SA instead of a DA, so everyone knows it's not DAO. I personally don't think the DA/SA terminology is neccesary. If I hear someone says DA and not DAO I assume it's a standard DA.  http://members.cox.net/guntraining/glocks.htm

The main thing the pistol instructor says as it relates to my prevoius post is;
Single Action: Pulling the trigger does ONE thing : if the hammer has been cocked, it will release the hammer.
Double Action: Pulling the trigger does TWO things : it will first cock the hammer if it hasn't been cocked, and then it will release the hammer.
Double Action ONLY: Any DA gun which does not allow pre-cocking the hammer because the hammer won't stay cocked, and is often bobbed or hidden.