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Re: Why a Renewal of the 1994 Assault Weapon Ban is NOT Happening....
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2008, 12:19:03 PM »
cooptire hits on a key word - "united."

We are a group that can be divided and thus conquered in our current state.  Too many of us splinter off because we just shoot, or just hunt, or just have grandpa's old gun, or this organization only represents that group, or that organization is too stubborn and inflexible, or ...

We can not afford to be splintered on the basics, prejudiced on semantics, or suckered in by groups like those lead by an ex-football player that knows what is best for us. 

If we are not united we will be conquered!

I posted someplace else where I compared this fight to any other fight we can get exposed to, and we need to be an unattractive target, so the President Elect and his crew will go elsewhere first.  On the idea that the best defense is a good offense, we need to be proactive in all areas, and keep them reacting and on their heels.
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Re: Why a Renewal of the 1994 Assault Weapon Ban is NOT Happening....
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2008, 01:12:42 PM »
We need to be viewed as "united group of firearms enthusiasts" and NOT as "zealots" or random "gun nuts".
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Re: Why a Renewal of the 1994 Assault Weapon Ban is NOT Happening....
« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2008, 02:09:38 PM »
We need to be viewed as "united group of firearms enthusiasts" and NOT as "zealots" or random "gun nuts".


I believe that that is what you get by being proactive, organized and on the offensive instead of reactionary.
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Re: Why a Renewal of the 1994 Assault Weapon Ban is NOT Happening....
« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2008, 02:56:52 PM »
I believe that that is what you get by being proactive, organized and on the offensive instead of reactionary.


key word... the gun culture is generally offensive to every one.

Lets just say you know nothing about guns...   When the leader of THE major gun owners groups( nra, every one knows of them)  say " from my cold dead hands"   what would that make you think of that group?
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Re: Why a Renewal of the 1994 Assault Weapon Ban is NOT Happening....
« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2008, 06:14:04 PM »

key word... the gun culture is generally offensive to every one.

Lets just say you know nothing about guns...   When the leader of THE major gun owners groups( nra, every one knows of them)  say " from my cold dead hands"   what would that make you think of that group?

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Re: Why a Renewal of the 1994 Assault Weapon Ban is NOT Happening....
« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2008, 06:23:53 PM »
DEDICATION.


replace gun with say, porn or drugs... still feel the same way?


I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: Why a Renewal of the 1994 Assault Weapon Ban is NOT Happening....
« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2008, 06:32:17 PM »
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Re: Why a Renewal of the 1994 Assault Weapon Ban is NOT Happening....
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2008, 06:45:02 PM »
cooptire hits on a key word - "united."

We are a group that can be divided and thus conquered in our current state.  Too many of us splinter off because we just shoot, or just hunt, or just have grandpa's old gun, or this organization only represents that group, or that organization is too stubborn and inflexible, or ...

We can not afford to be splintered on the basics, prejudiced on semantics, or suckered in by groups like those lead by an ex-football player that knows what is best for us. 

If we are not united we will be conquered!

I posted someplace else where I compared this fight to any other fight we can get exposed to, and we need to be an unattractive target, so the President Elect and his crew will go elsewhere first.  On the idea that the best defense is a good offense, we need to be proactive in all areas, and keep them reacting and on their heels.

These are much my thoughts too. I would like to add we should have the attitude of "no one gets thrown overboard." I hear too many gun owners talk about what guns should NOT be allowed to be purchased or owned. As most of you know, I have full-auto weapons and I am continually amazed by the mostly well-intentioned, sometimes smug, comments about how these types of weapons should only be in the hands of the military or police. So if I believe that you should not have a .50 caliber rifle, is that OK too? Or how about those very dangerous- and hear comes that word- and SCARY assault weapons? Of course not!

We need to have a high degree of tolerance in our community. I may believe that you don't "need" this or that weapon but I will never tell you that you do not have the RIGHT to have that weapon.

I guess I am saying we have to have solidarity in this time of trial and keep our personal preferences out of it for the good of the cause.

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Re: Why a Renewal of the 1994 Assault Weapon Ban is NOT Happening....
« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2008, 06:46:28 PM »
replace gun with say, porn or drugs... still feel the same way?


Well, basically if it is something that is protected by the Constitution, then yes.
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Re: Why a Renewal of the 1994 Assault Weapon Ban is NOT Happening....
« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2008, 07:24:48 PM »
Well, basically if it is something that is protected by the Constitution, then yes.


Right on!     Also, in response to this article by Nowick. I wonder what political ties he has. I think this is just propaganda for the anti-gunners. Lets put some stuff out there to ease fears until we can get an organized strike mounted. I don't know Mr. Nowick or his politics. In any event, I wouldn't believe it for one minute. It's coming. Sooner or later an AWB will be brought up to be passed. Yeah, maybe not the 1994 one. Probably one much worse. Don't fall for it. And don't think or believe that the elite leftwing..won't be supporting one.

 

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