Hillary Clinton accepts Secy of State

[fullautovalmet76]

Geeze I didn't mean to set off a firestorm...First I am not a lawyer but I have read lawyers that say such. I am clipping the following from a UCLA prof who summarizes the argument. (I believe he has worked with Dave Kopel at the NRA)..In any case International law (treaties) certainly can shape US legal matters.


You can also check out Dave Kopel's article here on the UN vs. US rights. As you can see there is a lively discussion on this topic. That is why the appointment of US judges and SCOTUS judges is so important. They will determine if international law is used in the interpretation of our rights.

http://www.davekopel.com/2a/Foreign/UN-To-World.htm

I believe a recent (within the past 5 years) SCOTUS decision in a non-firearm related case stated that the US Constitution is still the supreme law of the land. So 100 traitor can't vote our rights away so easily. But I don't have access to Westlaw anymore and can't check my facts- damn it!

Anyway, thanks for the great information!

[Hazcat]

1776,

Wasn't jumping down your throat.  I have heard this before but it always seemed based on a 'nuanced' reading of the constitution.

[1776 Rebel]

Haz I still love you guys..

But seriously this whole situation looks to be shaping up as the perfect storm to me. I am really worried about this country. Four years is enough time for these dim wits to screw up a dozen different social/cultural areas. It will take 30 or 40  years to unwind their damage if ever.

Let me use the following analogy. Just like the economy hit a tipping point in September and we are seeing it in free fall now. We may hit a political tipping point soon also. Things that we thought would be decades away may happen overnight. That makes me real sad. It also makes me very scared.

[tombogan03884]

How many treaties were signed in Northern Ireland, or with the American Indians ? Treaties are only as good as the enforcement, and if the "enforcers" keep getting shot......

[fullautovalmet76]

Hmmm....I don't know.....I think 1776 may be on to something.

Here's a link to a story done by NPR:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89100044

Notice that the majority decision (by J. Roberts) stated that treaties are self-executing if they are explicitly stated, OR if there are domestic laws that say they are self-executing.

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[MikeBjerum]

I'm waiting for the pictures of the late night candlelit supper meeting between her and Ms. Peters talking about "gun control."  That oughta cure my porn addiction in one look 

[Bill Stryker]

I think the oath of a military officer talks about protecting the Constitution and obeying the lawfulorders of those appointed over you. Thanks to the Nuremberg trials and other precedents orders need to be lawful and the officer needs to be sure they are before carrying them out. I know that I would refuse to carry out an unlawful order that does not support and protect the Constitution. Duty, Honor, Country.

[Hazcat]

I think the oath of a military officer talks about protecting the Constitution and obeying the lawfulorders of those appointed over you. Thanks to the Nuremberg trials and other precedents orders need to be lawful and the officer needs to be sure they are before carrying them out. I know that I would refuse to carry out an unlawful order that does not support and protect the Constitution. Duty, Honor, Country.

Sadly  , Foreign concepts to the left in this country.

[Fatman]

UN trumps the Constitution?  I think not. US military assigned to the UN are required to disavow the oath that they swore to 'protect and defend the constitution from all threats foreign and domestic'. Soldiers have been court-martialed for refusing to do so when ordered to UN service. Unfairly IMHO, as it is in my mind an immoral order.

[MikeBjerum]

UN trumps the Constitution?  I think not. US military assigned to the UN are required to disavow the oath that they swore to 'protect and defend the constitution from all threats foreign and domestic'. Soldiers have been court-martialed for refusing to do so when ordered to UN service. Unfairly IMHO, as it is in my mind an immoral order.

I'd drop the "IMHO" and just state that it is a piece of crap !!!

We are not one world state ... yet.  I know that there are many that want it that way, but the United Nations is just an organizations of nations.  The U.N. is not a governing force, and if they want to over step their bounds we might want to use that big building in New York for training purposes with rookie pilots.

This is BS, and I would love to see these soldiers tell their side of the story, and let someone explain how they were "wrong."