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Re: New York Giants receiver suffers accidental gunshot wound
« Reply #40 on: December 02, 2008, 12:27:44 PM »
Instead of banning guns, how about we ban the possession of computers and typewriters by idiots and liberals?  (Yes, I DO know that is a redundancy)
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Re: New York Giants receiver suffers accidental gunshot wound
« Reply #41 on: December 02, 2008, 01:51:29 PM »
I finally found the time to send Mr Feinstein (D) a nice little email today  :)
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Re: New York Giants receiver suffers accidental gunshot wound
« Reply #42 on: December 02, 2008, 03:20:13 PM »
Mike Ditka proclaims that the NFL should bar players from owning guns too:

http://www.serioussportsnewsnetwork.com/2008/12/pacman-to-ditka-from-my-cold-dead-hands.html

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NEW YORK, NY — Mike Ditka’s made an unusual—and probably unconstitutional—suggestion on “NFL Countdown” yesterday that the NFL should bar all players from owning guns, following Plaxico Burress’ arrest following an incident involving a handgun went largely unnoticed by the mainstream media, but did not escape the attention of certain gun enthusiasts who suit up every Sunday.


Ditkas actual words:
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"This is all about priorities. When you get stature in life, you get the kind of contract, you have an obligation and responsibility to your teammates, to the organization, to the National Football League and to the fans. He just flaunted this money in their face. He has no respect for anybody but himself. I feel sorry for him, in the sense that, I don't understand the league, why can anybody have a gun? I will have a policy, no guns, any NFL players we find out, period, you're suspended."




This is the crap part.... Why in the hell is NRA President associating with Pacman Jones and Tank Johnson?:

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Ditka’s proposal drew almost immediate ire from some of the NFL’s most colorful characters, including one Adam “Pacman” Jones.
“The Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees the People’s right to bear arms,” Jones announced at a press conference. “Mr. Ditka’s proposal to strip all professional football players of their God-given right to self-defense is nothing less than communism.”

Jones, who was involved in an infamous shooting at a Las Vegas strip club back in 2007 which left a man partially paralyzed, was joined by associates “Tank” Johnson, Marvin Harrison, and NRA president John C. Sigler.

“‘Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes …they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.’ You know who said that? Thomas f***ing Jefferson, that’s who,” announced Tank Johnson, who has been arrested several times for unlawful gun ownership, to stunned reporters.
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Re: New York Giants receiver suffers accidental gunshot wound
« Reply #43 on: December 02, 2008, 03:28:09 PM »
What about cars?

Remember that Randy Moss hit a police officer with his.

It wasn't an accident either!  They were controlling taffic, and he got tired of waiting.  He just drove forward and pushed the officer.  Jack Ass got away with it too  >:(

I won't go into the number of athletes up here that have had DUI's or the one that was killed when he flipped his car on a clean dry road.
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Re: New York Giants receiver suffers accidental gunshot wound
« Reply #44 on: December 02, 2008, 03:50:02 PM »
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This is the crap part.... Why in the hell is NRA President associating with Pacman Jones and Tank Johnson?:

That is a good question that needs to be answered!  We do NOT need to be associated with those convicted of crimes involving firearms. This is as bad as a Lon Haruchi (sp) endorsement!  Why not ask OJ to endorse the 2A for football players.

What the HELL was he thinking?
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Re: New York Giants receiver suffers accidental gunshot wound
« Reply #45 on: Today at 05:23:30 AM »

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Re: New York Giants receiver suffers accidental gunshot wound
« Reply #45 on: December 02, 2008, 05:04:45 PM »
That is a good question that needs to be answered!  We do NOT need to be associated with those convicted of crimes involving firearms. This is as bad as a Lon Haruchi (sp) endorsement!  Why not ask OJ to endorse the 2A for football players.

What the HELL was he thinking?

I've been trying to find it elsewhere to confirm it through another source but cant find anything else yet.... The Ditka part is 100%
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Re: New York Giants receiver suffers accidental gunshot wound
« Reply #46 on: December 02, 2008, 05:27:26 PM »
Hey!  Leave PegLeg out of this!

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Hey Haz, I could loan him one of my spare legs....I have two in the closet.......... ;D
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Re: New York Giants receiver suffers accidental gunshot wound
« Reply #47 on: December 02, 2008, 06:09:22 PM »
Giants' Steve Smith robbed at gunpoint

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2008/12/giants_receiver_steve_smith_ro.html
http://www.silive.com/sports/index.ssf/2008/12/giants_steve_smith_robbed_at_g.html

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Just as the team began sorting through the details of Plaxico Burress's shooting incident on Friday night, news of another Giant involved in a gun crime emerged on Tuesday.

According to the Newark Star-Ledger, Steve Smith, a second-year player for the Giants, was held up at gunpoint outside of his home in Clifton New Jersey last week.

Smith was returning home to his gated community around 4 a.m. on Nov. 25 when an assailant approached him from behind with a gun. "The perpetrator said, 'Give me everything you got,' and Mr. Smith did turn over his jewelry and cash," Det. Capt. Robert Rowan said. "The incident is still under investigation."

Smith was unavailable for comment. The Giants confirmed that Smith was involved in a robbery on Sunday after former running back Tiki Barber first reported the news on NBC, saying that receiver Plaxico Burress was aware of the crime when he brought a handgun to a Manhattan nightclub on Friday.
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Re: New York Giants receiver suffers accidental gunshot wound
« Reply #48 on: December 02, 2008, 08:40:24 PM »
And now the rush is on to make the case that all guns are bad and that CWP carriers are a threat to society (consider the source):

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-helmke/plaxico-burress-shoots-hi_b_147862.html
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If we are to believe the gun lobby propaganda, that made Burress the classic "law-abiding citizen" that all Americans should trust to carry a loaded, hidden handgun anywhere, at any time in public - someone who is supposedly educated about the laws regulating where and how he can carry his firearm, and who won't accidentally shoot himself in the leg.

Obviously that wasn't the case.

The gun laws in New York and New Jersey (Burress's reported state of residence) are some of the strongest in the country. They work to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people, helping both states rank among the five with the lowest gun death rates in America (Note that they cant give a source to back up that claim).

On the other hand, Florida's gun laws are notoriously weak. In just this year alone, according to news reports, Florida concealed carry permit-holders have been charged in at least two murders and a manslaughter; another apparently had an illegal drug record; another was arrested for impersonating a police officer; at least four others shot themselves in gun accidents (here, here, here, and here). These are just published reports. Almost certainly, many more go unreported every month - and not just in Florida.

What these incidents show is that some people who we're led to believe are responsible, law-abiding gun owners - people like Plaxico Burress - can still exhibit dangerous behavior with firearms in public every day. The fact that most gun owners really are responsible, law-abiding citizens only highlights the risk of serious injury or death that a firearm in the wrong hands can cause.

This risk is borne by the public as much as by gun owners themselves, and the Burress incident is just one more example of how a gun kept for protection is often used against its owner instead.

Hopefully, we can all learn a lesson from this - guns are dangerous and gun ownership is a serious responsibility. Any one of us has the potential to make a mistake, get angry, or get drunk, which makes carrying loaded guns in public all the more dangerous for all of us.
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Re: New York Giants receiver suffers accidental gunshot wound
« Reply #49 on: December 03, 2008, 01:22:44 AM »
Let me preface this statement by saying, I LOVE football.  However, the current anti gun movement running rampant in the NFL makes me sick.  It's amazing how quickly they forget about Sean Taylor.  Of course, he was not permitted to own a gun due to prior legal trouble and no I'm not advocating guns for felons, but if he had owned a gun he might still be alive and playing today.  Just a year later, however, and now NFL players have no need to own guns.   ???

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