What Crosses The Line? Your Personal Line.

[SwoopSJ]

No one can really say with certainty what they would do in any given situation until they have it thrust upon them.  That being said, I am a Christian and I could not justify taking another life unless it is in self defense.  My faith dictates that my needs will be met by my God.  This may not be a popular nor credible answer to some of you, but it is the way I was raised and the way I believe.  God has never let me down no matter what particular "lions' den" I have been thrown into.

Swoop

[Big Frank]

Are you a terrorist? Is your life more valuble than someone elses life? What gives you the right to take a member of someone else's family away to save a member of your family? Are you God? Are you playing God? Is your family's live worth more than their family's? If you answer those questions truthfully I think you'll have the answer you need. I'm not a cold-blooded murderer. Are you?

[tombogan03884]

Fortunately I'm alone, and used to doing for myself. I'm in the middle of where MB was, towns all around me lost power, and a guy a couple towns over died, (from stupidity) I went to work same as normal, came home , did my usual stuff. This was no big deal I've seen a lot worse here.
But to answer your question, bearing in mind it's just me, NO. I'll work out a deal, make do, or do without. I may resort to LIVING like an animal, but I will not resort to thinking like one.

[TAB]

I can't really say what I would do there, but if I was on the other side of the coin...


If you ask for help and I can, I will help. If you try to take what I have by force.  I will defend it with deadly force.

[shooter32]

Hope I would never have to make the call on what crosses the line. But like others have said I would only use deadly force if it was do or die. And I have done all I could to keep from making that call.

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[PegLeg45]

No one can really say with certainty what they would do in any given situation until they have it thrust upon them.  That being said, I am a Christian and I could not justify taking another life unless it is in self defense.  My faith dictates that my needs will be met by my God.  This may not be a popular nor credible answer to some of you, but it is the way I was raised and the way I believe.  God has never let me down no matter what particular "lions' den" I have been thrown into.

Swoop

+1


I carry my weapons for defense of my family first and myself second.
Unless in future dark times the need arises for a repeat performance of the Revolutionary War, I see no need for offensive use of said weapons.
That being said, I can only pray that I am never faced with that type of dilemma.

1776's question reminds me of the movie "John Q" with Denzel Washington. Similar type situation where a father seems to run out of options and takes the extreme path.

Thanks for making us THINK.

[warhawke]

The entire reason I am a survivalist is to avoid just that situation. PREPARE! If you are not prepared, if you do not have food, water, fuel, etc. you might well be placed in a position of stealing or dying. Get what you need to survive NOW, don't wait.

I tell everyone that being a survivalist is NOT about nuclear war, or an asteroid hitting the earth, it is about any disaster. If you lose your job it is a disaster, if you are caught in a blizzard it is a disaster. Real disasters happen all the time and they are just as bad for those caught in it as a world shattering mega-disaster. Get prepared because tomorrow will be what it will be and you have to be ready to deal with it.

[PegLeg45]

Good points, Warhawke. The media has portrayed the term 'survivalist' as the stereotypical loony running around the woods living off squirrels and shooting up everything with full-auto weapons.
Being a survivalist (in my mind) means being prepared to survive under any circumstance that may arise at a moments notice.
I must admit I am not prepared for extreme circumstances. But, thanks to this thread, I will work on it.

[Teresa Heilevang]

Warhawke.. you are exactly right!  I never go anyplace that I don't have all of my medicines and not just the allotted pills for the time I am gone. ( Except this last trip to Vegas for a we. God, I forgot my Premarin ( hormone) about 4 days into the trip I was having so many hot flashes you could have cooked an egg on my body.. LOL  My moods stayed nice and level ( thank goodness) but my body was sure screaming for some estrogen.. LOL

But back to the subject.......don;t just randomly be prepared. be prepared and equipped as best you can all the time whether you are at home or away.
 And I can't imagine not trying to help someone who knocked at my door that REALLY needed some help. I think for the most part, people still help people if it is a one on one situation and not a mob crowd mentality. I try to keep a full stocked everything plus quite a bit of extra for when the time comes I and others might need it.

[1776 Rebel]

The entire reason I am a survivalist is to avoid just that situation. PREPARE! If you are not prepared, if you do not have food, water, fuel, etc. you might well be placed in a position of stealing or dying. Get what you need to survive NOW, don't wait.

I tell everyone that being a survivalist is NOT about nuclear war, or an asteroid hitting the earth, it is about any disaster. If you lose your job it is a disaster, if you are caught in a blizzard it is a disaster. Real disasters happen all the time and they are just as bad for those caught in it as a world shattering mega-disaster. Get prepared because tomorrow will be what it will be and you have to be ready to deal with it.

Warhawke I don't disagree with you. BUT...you have to admit that there is always the potential of you not having access to your stash, the stash being destroyed or taken from you. That puts you right back on square one. The body IMMEDIATELY starts the clock on thirst, hunger and cold. You have only so much time before they take their toll.

I do follow survival anecdotes and incidents. They happen in the most ideal locales. Remember a few years back when a hurricane blew thru the Virgin Islands unexpectedly. Devasted one of the islands. No help for a week before some ones navy arrived. The storm scraped the island clean.

It may be easy to say "I'm better than that" but take a look at the starving crowds of women and children pushing and shoving to get the food from the helicopter...A starving body will make you take the aggressors role.

Jumbofrank, I am neither a terrorist nor God,  just a man wanting to live. My family is worth more than any other in my eyes. The natural rights of man gives me the right to survival. If I come across AN EMPTY HOUSE should I not break in for food and shelter because its againist the law? What rules do I follow? Survive  or die.

I didn't say it would be easy to consider these things.