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Re: BRADY: Their references don't check out
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2009, 07:11:21 PM »
I don't think there is a gun on the market that can't trace its roots back to being a miltary arm.


lets just hit some of the popular gun catagorys.  At one time a miltary arm... currently a miltary arm.


lever action... yes...no
bolt action... yes...yes
pump action... yes..yes
gas operated... yes...yes
recoil operated... yes...yes
blow back...yes...yes
Direct gas system... yes...yes
gas piston... yes...yes
roling block... yes... no
break action...yes...no
revoling cylinder... yes...yes
recipercating barrel...yes...yes

Is there are firearm that does not fit one of these?

We're left with muzzle loaders. Ooops. We're left with 5 lbs of black powder and muzzle loaders under 50 cal.
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Re: BRADY: Their references don't check out
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2009, 07:12:57 PM »
Those are not "firearms"  atleast under federal law.
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: BRADY: Their references don't check out
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2009, 08:59:16 PM »
 
I don't think there is a gun on the market that can't trace its roots back to being a miltary arm.


lets just hit some of the popular gun catagorys.  At one time a miltary arm... currently a miltary arm.


lever action... yes...no
bolt action... yes...yes
pump action... yes..yes
gas operated... yes...yes
recoil operated... yes...yes
blow back...yes...yes
Direct gas system... yes...yes
gas piston... yes...yes
roling block... yes... no
break action...yes...no
revoling cylinder... yes...yes
recipercating barrel...yes...yes

Is there are firearm that does not fit one of these?

You missed the "match lock",Flint lock,  Cap lock, and "hand cannon" and yes they were all developed for military use, though I don't think even 3rd world countries are using them any more there are probably still some in the far back corner of an armory somewhere.

I didn't realize there was another page when I first  posted this, but to answer TAB. just because they are not CURRENTLY classed as firearms means nothing. The only difference is that they do not use pre assembled ammunition. over look that detail and a Springfield rifled musket becomes an "assault weapon", a "military rifle" that , as the messiah said, has no place in our society.
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Re: BRADY: Their references don't check out
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2009, 10:16:32 PM »
Anyone thats seen the damage a muzzle loader can do to a deer will call it an assult weapon.   it really is amazing how much damage a big hunk of lead going slow can do.
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: BRADY: Their references don't check out
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2009, 01:23:02 PM »
Anyone thats seen the damage a muzzle loader can do to a deer will call it an assult weapon.   it really is amazing how much damage a big hunk of lead going slow can do.

It has to do, partly, with the softer lead alloy used in, for example, a Minie bullet. during the Civil war it was found that bullets were shattering, rather than penetrating, bone in their path. This was part of the reason for the high percentage of gun shot wounds to arms and legs that resulted in amputation.

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Re: BRADY: Their references don't check out
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Re: BRADY: Their references don't check out
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2009, 05:46:01 PM »
It has to do, partly, with the softer lead alloy used in, for example, a Minie bullet. during the Civil war it was found that bullets were shattering, rather than penetrating, bone in their path. This was part of the reason for the high percentage of gun shot wounds to arms and legs that resulted in amputation.

Sometimes they were also known to shatter like a grenade after glancing off a large bone (like a femur), causing large amounts of vascular damage. Even if the bone itself remained intact, this led to amputation due to massive circulation loss in the limb. Primitive medicine had no way to repair the many damaged blood vessels and gangrene would soon set in. Amputation was basically a 'fast' remedy.
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