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Re: What do you have ..in case of any kind of disaster.
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2009, 05:31:13 AM »
Here in California, it's good to be prepared. I've got a lot of what we need (stored water, freeze dried food, gloves, flashlights, etc.). We've got some of those Rubbermade plastic bins full of all types of supplies. We specifically waited until Halloween to get the Orange ones, so they would stand out as EMERGENCY supplies. The things that I keep near the side of the bed are gun, ammo, flashlight, jeans, sturdy shoes, cell phone and HAM radio HT. We are absolutely going to have a big shaker eventually and a study at UCI, that was reported last week, says we are historically overdue. Ultimately, it'd be pretty stupid for me to be interested in self defense against the criminal element but not in defending my family from a very probable natural disaster.

The guitarist from the Sex Pistols had a radio show here until a couple of weeks ago, and I remember after one catastrophe he commented that all you need is "beans, bullets and gasoline!"



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Re: What do you have ..in case of any kind of disaster.
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2009, 06:10:09 AM »
Warhawke beat me to it - referencing Rawles' Survivlblog.com. It is a great site, covers all of the scenarios Warhawke covered in his latest post, contains searchable archives. Rawles authored the book Patriots, which is a great novel and an incredible how-to on survival.

He has also authored a self-directed training course called Rawles Gets You Ready, which I am still trying to get finished - other demands on my time. But the minus 20 temps that have returned have me seriously concerned, not to mention the 40" of snow we got in December alone. Where will it go when it melts? It's pretty flat around here.

Here's a very short list for me

Food - some in sealed cans and gamma lid plastic buskets, not enough tho, and not enough variation; limited stored water too

Batteries - some, but in any long-term SHTF, most battery operated devices will be worthless unless you have a solar charger - no I do not; flashlights have all been converted to LEDs to reduce power consumption, with the Krypton bulbs kept for backup use

Gas and diesel properly stored

Guns and ammo

Camping gear, bug out bag, etc. - I'm set on this, but did not plan on the GF's daughter and granddaughter living with us

Radios - receiver only and walkie-talkie types - remember, radio communications are always not secure

Medical kits - lots, including a mobile medical ER/backpack; just updated the aging and out of date supplies (pills, ointments, etc.) - Emergency Essentials sells those little packets of 2 pills or single use ointments to have along with the bulk Wally World supplies; EE also sells freeze dried foods in bulk cans and cases as well

Clothing - adequate for a shorter long-term SHTF, say 1-2 years

I am also considering the local EMT-B class for enhancing my medical preparedness.

Bug out vehicle is down at the moment, busted tranny, getting it fixed next week.
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Re: What do you have ..in case of any kind of disaster.
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2009, 09:12:41 AM »
A friend of mine a couple of years ago was living in Naples FL. It was him, his wife and two small kids under 3. A hurricane was predicted for southern florida and I called him 5 days before land fall. I asked when he was going to get in his car and drive north. "Oh we're not going to leave we'll just hunker down here". I said "dude you have two small kids. Don't be an idiot leave now." He said absolutely not.  Well the blow off on the story is he stayed and put his family thru shear hell. He deserved to die to be quite frank. But most folks are like that. "I'm a MAN ! I KNOW HOW TO SURVIVE ANYTHING !" BS.

Whether its natural disasters or man made, the most important implements to have are  a car and a credit card. Plus what you carry in your head.

If the big shaker happens in California and you try to stay while everything around you is destroyed, then shame on you. If there is a riot brewing and you decicde to stay and fight the zombies, then shame on you. This is related to the whole "fight avoidance" discussion. I don't recall in the last full century any instance in the continental US that required LOTS OF AMMO. Can you name one instance where there was some sort of sustained firefight by civilians involving hundreds or thousands of rounds of ammo? Zero. I lived thru multiple riots in NYC. Including the burning down of the South Bronx. THE BURNING DOWN OF THE SOUTH BRONX ! It did not require anything more than a subway fare to move a couple of miles away to a relatives house. END OF STORY. People freeze to death in storms because they insist on staying in the house with no heat. They die like flys when there are floods cause they insist on toughing it out. BS. Especially if you have a family. A wife and kids, you should be arrested for endangering them.

Have a go bag, stock up on supplies sure. But to envision trying to live thru something which is clearly localized in geography and NOT leaving the area is just lunacy. That should be the prime directive of any survival situation. How do I leave, before hopefully, but in any case how do I leave after the emergency has triggered the survival instincts.

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Re: What do you have ..in case of any kind of disaster.
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2009, 09:28:04 AM »
The best site is Survivalblog.com    It is generally thought that you should keep 1 years supply of food, ways to get or keep water, heat and transport. Depending on where you live these things may change. A couple of deep cycle 12 volt rechargeable batteries along with a power inverter will run your essentials. A wood stove will give heat and a place to cook. A solar panel or 2 will keep your batteries charged.
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Re: What do you have ..in case of any kind of disaster.
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2009, 09:52:27 AM »
Survivalblog.com  +100

selter - water - fire... are my main three. Pathfinder has a corbon copy of my list. What's been posted so far is something we all should do!!


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Re: What do you have ..in case of any kind of disaster.
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Re: What do you have ..in case of any kind of disaster.
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2009, 10:02:10 AM »
http://tennesseepreppersnetwork.blogspot.com/
on the right side there is a list of state preppers, most are like minded people, very good info on prepardness.
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Re: What do you have ..in case of any kind of disaster.
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2009, 10:05:51 AM »
http://tennesseepreppersnetwork.blogspot.com/
on the right side there is a list of state preppers, most are like minded people, very good info on prepardness.

Thanks 2HOW. I can't get enough of this stuff.
A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have. ~ Gerald Ford - August 12, 1974

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Re: What do you have ..in case of any kind of disaster.
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2009, 10:30:54 AM »
One thing that I haven't seen in this discussion or another one we had earlier (it may have been said and I missed it) it

PRIVACY!!!

Prepare for yourself and your loved ones.  Pick a number of people and a number of days.  Pick a level of preparedness - 72 hours 100% of hunkered down; another week of 100% possibly on the move; a month at 75% considering nomadic lifestyle.  Each level of supplies has responsiblities.  100% of needs means a lot to store and carry; 75% is still a lot but more managable, and it requires that you be able to both ration and scrounge; 50% keeps moving toward more mobile and more reliant on other skills.

Next is to keep you mouth shut.  After you have gone through the above exercise and completed it it can be rendered worthless if you are overrun by the neighbor and their three kids.  This is also where civil unrest and riots start.  Don't inform any more people than you are willing to support or share with.
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Re: What do you have ..in case of any kind of disaster.
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2009, 01:41:42 PM »
Actually had found this list a couple months ago.  I thought before I read it that I was fairly prepared, but this just showed me how wrong I was.

Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency

1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of thieves; maintenance etc.)
2. Water Filters/Purifiers
3. Portable Toilets
4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home uses.
5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!)
6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.
7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.
8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
10. Rice - Beans - Wheat
11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,)
12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)
13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade if for drinking.
16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.)
17. Survival Guide Book.
18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.)
19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
22. Vitamins
23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item)
24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)
26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item)
28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many).
30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months)
32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST)
33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)
34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit
35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)
37. First aid kits
38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)
39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
41. Flour, yeast & salt
42. Matches. {"Strike Anywhere" preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first
43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.)
45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts
46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, "No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns
47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times)
48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels)
49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc
50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)
51. Fishing supplies/tools
52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
53. Duct Tape
54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
55. Candles
56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)
57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags
58. Garden tools & supplies
59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)
62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)
63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc
65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
67. Board Games, Cards, Dice
68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)
71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water)
72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)
74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase
76. Reading glasses
77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)
78. "Survival-in-a-Can"
79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog
81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)
82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)
85. Lumber (all types)
86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
87. Cots & Inflatable mattress's
88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
89. Lantern Hangers
90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
91. Teas
92. Coffee
93. Cigarettes
94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)
95. Paraffin wax
96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.
97. Chewing gum/candies
98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)
99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
100. Livestock

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Re: What do you have ..in case of any kind of disaster.
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2009, 02:27:02 PM »
I'm gonna move in with BHO's illegal immigrant Auntie in Boston.  She's sure to have everthing she needs including my tax dollars. >:(

Actually, if the SHTF, I'm pretty much done for...I do have a pot to piss in and not much more... :(

 

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