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Re: ccw legal advice (lawyers and LEOs please)
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2009, 07:16:00 PM »
I have taken the training, and continue to train.  But to make it a requirement for a law abiding citizen, can and will deter some from getting a CCW.  If my daughter needs to carry but can't afford the training, why should she be at risk?  Sorry about the political view, but many are trying to infringe in the name of the common good, and not using common sense.
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Re: ccw legal advice (lawyers and LEOs please)
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2009, 12:07:52 AM »
Thanks for the responses, but Pincus is right. This wasnt a question about politics, just what is prudent to help yourself AFTER the shooting. This is why I'd asked for some input from LEOS and lawyers, defense and DA's that deal with this end of it.
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Yep, knowledge and understanding the legal aspect of CCW is just as much a tactical part of self defense as carrying the gun.  IMO.
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Re: ccw legal advice (lawyers and LEOs please)
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2009, 11:52:23 PM »
Lt. Colonel Dave Grossman's book: "On Killing" provides an excellent discussion of what type of reactions your body will go into when you face a critical event. Professional training from a lot of the academies around the United States can help you get innoculated to some extent to help you to react to a life and death situation in a positive manner.

Building muscle memory to react is important. Rehearsing scenarios mentally and physically is invaluable. I have been able to participate in simunitions training which is great. I wish I had this type of training 29 years ago when I began my LE career. My son just got his CCW and we are going up to the Sig Academy for a two-day Concealed Course to help him develop his skills and also to help reinforce and refine my skills. We want to visit Front Site in the future. Great Father / Son bonding.

Training can only help and I have always learned something to incorporate in my LE career and off duty. Knowledge is power. An old adage: "You react the way you train." How are you doing? :o There is another saying: "You can't teach an old sheepdog new tricks." I disagree.

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Re: ccw legal advice (lawyers and LEOs please)
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2009, 03:22:53 PM »
I'm not suggesting classes are nonsense, just don't want to retake the basic if not a good idea.
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Re: ccw legal advice (lawyers and LEOs please)
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2009, 04:17:12 PM »
On the legal side check this out.  Pincus has done some work with them


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Re: ccw legal advice (lawyers and LEOs please)
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Re: ccw legal advice (lawyers and LEOs please)
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2009, 11:30:34 PM »
Probably the most important factor is where you go. Some people are in jail because they acted as trained only to find out they didn't get the full meal training deal. My personal feeling is that if a person takes training he should learn well enough to teach it for that makes it a defensable endeavor.

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Re: ccw legal advice (lawyers and LEOs please)
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2009, 07:02:56 PM »
Do any states honor military training as experience or do you have to take a 8 or 16 hour class for CCW??? Just curious.

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Re: ccw legal advice (lawyers and LEOs please)
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2009, 07:12:35 PM »
FL honors military.  DD214 is all you need.
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Re: ccw legal advice (lawyers and LEOs please)
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2009, 07:15:12 PM »
Taking the hunters safety class will do it as well.
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Re: ccw legal advice (lawyers and LEOs please)
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2009, 07:17:08 PM »
FL honors military.  DD214 is all you need.

Florida also honors any LEO training (moot now) and training such as PA Act 235. However, I just wrote and asked if I'd still need to redo my fingerprints for them, and they said 'yes'. *sigh*
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