10/22 problem

[Badgersmilk]

I know, bad picture...  But I had to take my own.  Couldnt find a good one.  Thanks go to my daughter for holding the parts. 

My terminology is all wrong!  What I'm calling the "face of the chamber" in the picture IS the "bolt face".  The surface I'm calling the bolt face is?  ANYBODY?  The "shoulder of the bolt"?  I have no idea.  Help here?
10/22 Headspace:

[Badgersmilk]

I've worked on 10/22's that came between .049", and .0445".  46-48 is average.  Setting at .046" - .045" headspace will leave you PLENTY of room for wear, a little dirt, and all quaility's of ammo.  Though some will, I wouldnt go below .044" on any gun because wear will shorten it over enough time and "minimum is .043".  You'd better check your ammo pretty well at .425" some guys set it at!  Below .045" I dont believe you honestly see any improvement in accuracy...  Not worth it anyway.

[dj454]

I believe I found the problem. After comparing the 2 extractors you can definatly see the wear on my extractor. Just to look at it by itself it is hard to see but when compared to the new one you can definatly see a difference. I will replace my extractor and retest. Thanks for the help guys.

[Badgersmilk]

 $10.99,  Scroll down a little:

http://www.powercustom.com/10-22/parts_10-22.htm

While you've got it apart...  Look up "tuffer buffer" on ebay.  You get three for about $12.  Anyones claims aside, the gun will cycle quiter / smoother, it's just a little nicer to shoot.

[tombogan03884]

There was a thread about Recoil Buffers, it was specificly about using them in 1911's but some food for thought.
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php/topic,4293.0.html

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[dj454]

I have already changed the recoil buffer back in December. It does make it a lot quieter. Now I have to get one for my wife's 10/22 as well.

[bryand71]

Thanks for the link on the buffer. I will have to pick some up and try them.

[Badgersmilk]

At least in the 10/22's I've tried about 5 different brands in various guns.  Some even had little metal rods in the middle of them (one I'm still using now does).  the "tuffer buffer's" I've used have yet to fall apart or give me any problems at all.   Their nothing fancy, just a good grade of polycarbonate I guess.  When you can get three for $12 there a great deal!  I'd guess any brand will wear out with enough use and time, but these seem to be lasting.

I use a buffer in my SKS's as well (HUGE differance there!)  One buffer company makes a little wedge to take the slop out of AR's upper and lower receivers and it works great to.  (any DPMS AR I've seen yet is tight as a drum though, and the buffer wont even fit).

I like em!

DJ, next step is to drill a .3" hole in the back end of the reciever.  Magnum Research guns come this way.  ITS AWSOME!  Allows you to clean the barrel properly without removing it from the reciever.  Then lap in the contact surfaces on the hammer and sear (do a lot of research on that one for your own safety if you've not done anything like this before!), put in a Power Customs firing pin, and half a dozen other goodies from them, lap in / square up the chamber face, cryo the factory barrel, get a cool stock.  THEN you'll start wanting another 10/22 to build differently from the first, and so on, and so on...  IT NEVER ENDS!!!!!!!!!  It's a habbit you cant kick once you start.  And now its to late for you!   Another one hooked!

[dj454]

At least in the 10/22's I've tried about 5 different brands in various guns.  Some even had little metal rods in the middle of them (one I'm still using now does).  the "tuffer buffer's" I've used have yet to fall apart or give me any problems at all.   Their nothing fancy, just a good grade of polycarbonate I guess.  When you can get three for $12 there a great deal!  I'd guess any brand will wear out with enough use and time, but these seem to be lasting.

I use a buffer in my SKS's as well (HUGE differance there!)  One buffer company makes a little wedge to take the slop out of AR's upper and lower receivers and it works great to.  (any DPMS AR I've seen yet is tight as a drum though, and the buffer wont even fit).

I like em!

DJ, next step is to drill a .3" hole in the back end of the reciever.  Magnum Research guns come this way.  ITS AWSOME!  Allows you to clean the barrel properly without removing it from the reciever.  Then lap in the contact surfaces on the hammer and sear (do a lot of research on that one for your own safety if you've not done anything like this before!), put in a Power Customs firing pin, and half a dozen other goodies from them, lap in / square up the chamber face, cryo the factory barrel, get a cool stock.  THEN you'll start wanting another 10/22 to build differently from the first, and so on, and so on...  IT NEVER ENDS!!!!!!!!!  It's a habbit you cant kick once you start.  And now its to late for you!   Another one hooked!

I know it's too late I am already looking for my next one. My current 10/22 has a Ruger birch stock that is gourgeous, I get offers for it every time I go to a match, so I don't want to mess with it. I want to get another one and add a bull barrel and a cool thumbhole stock.

[Badgersmilk]

A second option to the bull barrel:  Shorten up the chamber length a little on the factory barrel to more reasonable standards then have it cryo treated.  It'll probably (there are NEVER guarantee's are there?) outshoot many heavy bull barrels on the market, and make a LOT nicer carrying gun!  Bull barrels are trendy, look pretty, and are fine for the range.  The reason they exist is that "thin" barrels are more prone to warp as they heat up and cool down throwing zero off.  Cryo treat that thin barrel so its stress relieved, and you've solved the problem.  The factory barrel may not look as cool at the range, but you'll learn to really not like a bull barrel gun after you carry it around hunting a while!  You'll start using a sling, and that means missing game.
 
My 10/22T came from the factory with such a short chamber that it wont accept ANY hyper velocity ammo other than the Remington truncated bullets (viper and yellow jacket).  Dont be afraid to taking off a few thousandths from yours, and square up your chamber face.  Just check it's length FREQUENTLY as you go.

Call around to local machine shops and ask if they know someone who can do the cryo for you.  May want to just say "stress relieve some material" so they understand what your talking about at first.  Probably run you around $50 bucks.  Dont pay more than $75.  MUCH cheaper than the bull barrel.

Ebay usually has quite a few GREAT looking thumbhole stocks for both types of barrels.  If its a hunting gun with a factory barrel check out the Butler Creek folding stock (the back half is metal).  IT'S GREAT!!!