Florida Legislators Raid CCW Trust Fund

[tombogan03884]

Yeah, but where's the money gonna from? The old days when we could get by with the "yankee tax" on hotel beds is long gone, property taxes are killing homeowners and sales taxes hurt the poor and business owners. Yet the roads need to be built, the schools improved, the cops need a paycheck etc. There isn't enough fat to cut. Its a problem that could have been prevented with better control over development but the cat has not only left the bag but is currently taking a dump on our bed.
FQ13

How about that crazy idea Reagan talked about, FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY.

[shooter32]

How about that crazy idea Reagan talked about, FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY.

A lost art..

[Thanos]

How about that crazy idea Reagan talked about, FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY.

Let's not get all crazy here!

We need to realize that politicians are working very hard to make sure that the billions of dollars in programs, that someone else would have to pay for, and were out of funding, could still continue in spite of the new billions of dollars worth of new programs announced during a global fiscal crisis. We need to take a careful and balanced approach to resolution for everyone. The lack of predictability in the market does not allow for accurate financial projections that we can prepare for.

***Layman Translation***
They spent all the money and we are broke, now they want to spend more. WHO DIDN'T SEE THIS COMMING???

[ericire12]

***Layman Translation***
They spent all the money and we are broke, now they want to spend more. WHO DIDN'T SEE THIS COMMING???

They are a bunch of F-ing drug addicts!

[Fatman]

Does this mean I won't see my application forms for CCW in the mail in the 10 days they promised? 

[Sponsor]

[Thanos]

Does this mean I won't see my application forms for CCW in the mail in the 10 days they promised? 

If you don't see it in the legal timeframe, sue in court and tell all your buddies to do the same. That would get them moving.

[fightingquaker13]

How about that crazy idea Reagan talked about, FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY.

True, but this hindsight. Its like telling an unemployed 18 yr old they shouldn't have a kid. Great advice. Now, the bouncing bundle of joy is here, due to politicians of both parties takng the payola, and making promises. What do we do now? Its like the medicare prescription drug benefit. It would've been hard to say no, but easier than saying we'll have to raise taxes to pay for it. The situation in Fl. is harder because we're not talking about luxuries but essentials. Thousands of homes shouldn't have been built, but they were. Tens of thousands of people, now voters, want services, and no one wants to say be careful what you wish for because here's the bill. Everyday this decision is put off, the the bill gets bigger. Personally, I agree with Reagan on one point. Taxes should be visible and painful, just like bills in real life. It makes politicians promises look hollow if you realize that every zoning variance will mean higher school, property and utility fees. As it is though, the bill has come due and we are honor bound to pay.
You can't say that you won't honor promises made by the guys we elected, just because you start to feel the pinch. I wish foks would think this through, but I'm not holding my breath.
FQ13

[Steyr M40A1]

And more of this crap.

Here is an email I got from a buddy when I emailed everyone in my address book with a copy of the letter to the Governor.

Well Richard,
  The friggin legislators raided the Inland Protection Trust Fund (IPTF) of over $150 million that was supposed to clean up gasoline spills that contaminate our drinking water!!  They left $10 million for a "rainy day".  Considering that 90% of our drinking water is at risk and that there are over 450 contaminated sites in Volusia County alone, that level of funding doesn't do squat.
  The IPTF is funded from a tax on each gallon of gas sold in Florida.  In one fell swoop, the legislators have killed an entire industry (that I worked in for 16 years doing the actual cleanup work and an additional 6 years as a government inspector making sure that the tax dollars for cleanup were used properly). 
  In a teleconference with Tallahassee today, we were told that there will NOT be any (repeat: not be any) money available until at least October 2009.  That means that there are going to be a whole lot of folks (me included) that will have to find a new line of work.
 
Do you know how to tell if a politician is lying?  It's easy... If their lips are moving, they're lying.
 
Good Luck,
Stirling

[Pathfinder]

True, but this hindsight. Its like telling an unemployed 18 yr old they shouldn't have a kid. Great advice. Now, the bouncing bundle of joy is here, due to politicians of both parties takng the payola, and making promises. What do we do now? Its like the medicare prescription drug benefit. It would've been hard to say no, but easier than saying we'll have to raise taxes to pay for it. The situation in Fl. is harder because we're not talking about luxuries but essentials. Thousands of homes shouldn't have been built, but they were. Tens of thousands of people, now voters, want services, and no one wants to say be careful what you wish for because here's the bill. Everyday this decision is put off, the the bill gets bigger. Personally, I agree with Reagan on one point. Taxes should be visible and painful, just like bills in real life. It makes politicians promises look hollow if you realize that every zoning variance will mean higher school, property and utility fees. As it is though, the bill has come due and we are honor bound to pay.
You can't say that you won't honor promises made by the guys we elected, just because you start to feel the pinch. I wish foks would think this through, but I'm not holding my breath.
FQ13

Turn in your Libertarian membership card, FQ.

These comments, along with the "They won't even talk about a state income tax" and "There isn't enough fat to cut" comments earlier indicate a certain willingness to support the government status quo. There is always something to trim - Legislative salaries and perks, insurance, staff. Start non-enforcing specific laws and cut state employees in wholesale numbers. Nowhere is it written that the State (or Federal or even County) gummints are owed a damn thing. Taxes are by consent, not by decree.

[tombogan03884]

I know this is a bizarre suggestion but when I can't afford something, I do with out it. I know it's weird and difficult to comprehend but it seems to work, I'm not bankrupt.