Author Topic: Restaurant with anti-gun policy saved by a gun  (Read 5537 times)

fightingquaker13

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11894
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Restaurant with anti-gun policy saved by a gun
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2009, 12:05:46 AM »
Hasn't TAB beat this horse into a bloody pile before?       ::)    ::)


You can keep puttin' the saddle back on it, pal...............but it ain't gonna get up and take you to town.
TAB has 2 good points.
One, the right to property, meaning the right to set the rules in the space you own, is as important as any other.
Two, fairly or not, because of this, you as owner (employer)are responsible for anyone carrying out your orders.
This being said, when I was in school I was an assistant manager (facts being vagued up here to protect the guilty) at a commercial enterprise, in a state bordering DC. I had to close the shop and walk to the back of a poorly lit parking lot to my car carrying the days receipts. I then went to the bank (equally deserted) to stick them in a bank drop box. The state decided I didn't need a ccw, and company policy forbade me to carry. If, speaking hypothetically, I decided that being fired and facing a misdemeanor charge would be the least of my worries, I flouted both; it just shows that while I think TAB has valid points, I chose otherwise.
FQ13

TAB

  • DRTV Rangers
  • Top Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 10214
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 103
Re: Restaurant with anti-gun policy saved by a gun
« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2009, 12:17:46 AM »
just beforewarned.  having fired for  violating weapons policy on your resume, will make you basicly unemployable.
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

PegLeg45

  • NRA Life, SAF, Constitutionalist
  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13267
  • DRTV Ranger
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 1366
Re: Restaurant with anti-gun policy saved by a gun
« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2009, 12:21:31 AM »
Not bashing TAB here.... you just haven't been privileged to the same old rhetoric some of the others on here have.

Hell, sometimes I agree with his points, but many times Ol' TAB likes to compare apples to oranges, and seems to love a good beating...especially from Tom Bogan.

This was in Georgia and we have different laws than Kalifornia, and without all the facts, we can only go by what was posted in the original story.

Bottom line: Company policy should never trump Constitutional guarantees.


I keep hearing this little voice in my head whispering, "....SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED..........."


Of course, this is just my opinion....which combined with a $1.50, might buy you a coke.

 8)
"I expect perdition, I always have. I keep this building at my back, and several guns handy, in case perdition arrives in a form that's susceptible to bullets. I expect it will come in the disease form, though. I'm susceptible to diseases, and you can't shoot a damned disease." ~ Judge Roy Bean, Streets of Laredo

For the Patriots of this country, the Constitution is second only to the Bible for most. For those who love this country, but do not share my personal beliefs, it is their Bible. To them nothing comes before the Constitution of these United States of America. For this we are all labeled potential terrorists. ~ Dean Garrison

"When it comes to the enemy, just because they ain't pullin' a trigger, doesn't mean they ain't totin' ammo for those that are."~PegLeg

fightingquaker13

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11894
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Restaurant with anti-gun policy saved by a gun
« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2009, 12:24:05 AM »
just beforewarned.  having fired for  violating weapons policy on your resume, will make you basicly unemployable.
If you threaten your coworkers yes. But do you seriously think that if this guy sends in a resume with a clipping of what went down it won't help him as much as hurt him (depending on the views of the prospective employer)?
FQ13

Rob10ring

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1024
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Restaurant with anti-gun policy saved by a gun
« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2009, 12:28:58 AM »
just beforewarned.  having fired for  violating weapons policy on your resume, will make you basicly unemployable.
Resumes can be fudged a bit, while still not lying. Employees can sometimes also pick employers who may be friendly to our views.

Being dead will make you even less employable.

As far as the States and Feds and private enterprise. Individuals are what came first and their rights should never be put after those of any of the other groups. There are decisions being made now about incorporation of the 2nd and when that gets finalized the States may no longer have a say in this one.

The Constitution aside from this discussion, shouldn't a right to defend oneself just be understood as just a basic human right, even if we had no law stating so?

Sponsor

  • Guest
Re: Restaurant with anti-gun policy saved by a gun
« Reply #25 on: Today at 09:54:57 PM »

TAB

  • DRTV Rangers
  • Top Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 10214
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 103
Re: Restaurant with anti-gun policy saved by a gun
« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2009, 12:29:47 AM »
I have never seen a app that does not have a "reason for leaving" section.  In this case, the reason would be termanation, I don't know any employer thats not going to call and find out why you were termanated.  Chances are very good your going to talk to some one that has no idea what happen.   If you don't list the job on your app, they are going to wonder what you did for a living during that time.   Lieing on your app is grounds for termantion.  You would be amazed at what info is out there if you know where to look.


You don't need a gun to defend yourself, its just a tool.
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

m25operator

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2628
  • DRTV Ranger
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Restaurant with anti-gun policy saved by a gun
« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2009, 12:42:53 AM »
Of all the employees I've terminated, the few future employers who called just wanted to know, they're capabilities, and maybe their weak points but not why they were terminated. California is such a sinkhole. Bellweather state my ASS. It is so ridiculous that Idaho ranks above it. I like Idaho by the way.
" The Pact, to defend, if not TO AVENGE '  Tarna the Tarachian.

TAB

  • DRTV Rangers
  • Top Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 10214
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 103
Re: Restaurant with anti-gun policy saved by a gun
« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2009, 12:53:11 AM »
I'd be willing to bet, most of the people lied on thier apps.  Its very common, its like the NCIS check, they only catch the dumb ones.  Thats why you do back ground checks, pull credit reports, google, etc etc.
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

philw

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3680
  • Aussie Aussie Aussie, Oi Oi Oi
    • Australian Hunting Net
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Restaurant with anti-gun policy saved by a gun
« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2009, 01:39:27 AM »
I'd be willing to bet, most of the people lied on thier apps.  Its very common, its like the NCIS check, they only catch the dumb ones.  Thats why you do back ground checks, pull credit reports, google, etc etc.

how much are you willing to bet ;)
Here’s to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They’re not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status quo. You can praise them, disagree with them, quote them, disbelieve them, glorify or vilify them. The only thing you can’t do is ignore them

tt11758

  • Noolis bastardis carborundum (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5821
  • DRTV Ranger ~
    • 10-Ring Firearms Training
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 7
Re: Restaurant with anti-gun policy saved by a gun
« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2009, 11:26:10 AM »
Quote
You don't need a gun to defend yourself.

TAB, no offense, but I don't need you or anybody else to tell me what I do or do not need when it comes to protecting myself and my family!  Don't you get it?  The "you don't need...." argument is the same one the anti's are trying to use to reinstate the asinine ban of so-called "assault weapons"!!  And the fact that you are willing to repeatedly come on this forum and spout that line of bullshit indicates that you are either a SEVERE masochist who enjoys getting his ass verbally kicked, or you lack certain fundamental judgement and intelligence.  Please spare me the "you know nothing about hos business works" crap.  I DO know how the real world works.  Apparently you do not.  Trust me dude, there are other colors in the rainbow besides black and white.

Quote
its just a tool

Forgive me for saying this TAB, but sometimes so are you.
I love waking up every morning knowing that Donald Trump is President!!

 

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk