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Re: 5.7 for Self Defense
« Reply #40 on: July 30, 2009, 07:08:45 PM »
I have a retired military friend in Alaska that still has a lot of ties and connections to the military.  They wanted to test a 5.7 and they were also having a pig roast.  Well they put an old body armor vest on a pig and used some of the restricted military rounds.  It passed through the vest, through the pig, and through the other side of the vest.  The pig didn't know what hit it.  They had a great bar-b-que.
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Re: 5.7 for Self Defense
« Reply #41 on: July 30, 2009, 08:34:51 PM »
Quote from: Magnum on June 17, 2009, 03:21:56 PM
Sorry for getting slightly off track, but if velocity in a handgun is what you want, wouldn't a 357 Sig be a good choice??
I have been looking into getting one of those as I have read good things about that caliber. I only brought it up because you mentioned 9 and 40 handguns.  :)

.357 should only need a barrel swap with a .40 cal.  Everything else should be the same including the magazines.
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Re: 5.7 for Self Defense
« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2009, 09:57:10 AM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_Remington_Jet

5.7 of yesteryear.  It was a flash in the pan then to.  Better marketing today helped it a little.  Maybe next time it can be the "40 Grain Go Gitter".  Or Cerberus can re-introduce it in 2030 as a "Dodge Stealth" ;)
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Re: 5.7 for Self Defense
« Reply #43 on: August 03, 2009, 04:33:46 PM »
Quote from: Badgersmilk on August 02, 2009, 09:57:10 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_Remington_Jet

5.7 of yesteryear.  It was a flash in the pan then to.  Better marketing today helped it a little.  Maybe next time it can be the "40 Grain Go Gitter".  Or Cerberus can re-introduce it in 2030 as a "Dodge Stealth" ;)
Nice to see the old avatar back Badge. 8)
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Re: 5.7 for Self Defense
« Reply #44 on: August 03, 2009, 08:00:42 PM »
Lord Humungous can not be denied! ;)
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Re: 5.7 for Self Defense
« Reply #45 on: September 07, 2009, 02:35:30 PM »
Quote from: Kid Shelleen on July 27, 2009, 04:49:33 PM
Once again it's time for the 10
Everything old is new again.

Good attempt.  Maybe we'll just have to wait on the Fortis to show up...
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Re: 5.7 for Self Defense
« Reply #46 on: September 07, 2009, 08:44:13 PM »
Let me just pop into this with a comment on the .30 Carbine. A few years ago I went out and talked to a bunch of guys, including NYPD legend Jim Cirillo, who had shot other guys with a .30 Carbine. None of them had any problems with the round at all. Bad round to assault a machinegun nest in Germany, not a bad round for whacking bad guys in urban areas...

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Re: 5.7 for Self Defense
« Reply #47 on: September 07, 2009, 08:52:46 PM »
Quote from: Michael Bane on September 07, 2009, 08:44:13 PM
Let me just pop into this with a comment on the .30 Carbine. A few years ago I went out and talked to a bunch of guys, including NYPD legend Jim Cirillo, who had shot other guys with a .30 Carbine. None of them had any problems with the round at all. Bad round to assault a machinegun nest in Germany, not a bad round for whacking bad guys in urban areas...

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It may have been fine but there is so much better stuff now. It was DESIGNED to be better than nothing. I love the Carbine, I'm not interested in  caliber that is "better than nothing".
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Re: 5.7 for Self Defense
« Reply #48 on: September 07, 2009, 09:21:03 PM »
Kid, Rastus and others,

Go ahead and chant, rant and rave for your 10mm's.  I've had one, and I have .40's.  However, I think I'll keep bangin away with my 11.5 mm  ;D
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Re: 5.7 for Self Defense
« Reply #49 on: September 11, 2009, 05:16:48 AM »
Quote from: tombogan03884 on September 07, 2009, 08:52:46 PM
It may have been fine but there is so much better stuff now. It was DESIGNED to be better than nothing. I love the Carbine, I'm not interested in  caliber that is "better than nothing".

The  .30Carbine was designed to be "better" than the .45ACP FMJ as fired from the 1911 pistol....and it was. The problems came up when everyone expected it to be as effective as the .30-06 M1 Garand....and it just doesn't have that kind of legs.

I'm still amazed that the US military didn't develop it further as a submachine gun round. While the Europeans were playing with the 9mm, we could have had a subgun with a lot more punch...  8)
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