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Re: THE DEATH OF ISRAEL
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2009, 06:41:44 AM »
Israel will not go down quietly, in fact, the country that has the mountain named for Armageddon, will just flat out make powdered glass out of most of the region, if threatened and pushed far enough.

They have held back, been more "politically correct" in fighting Hamas, Syrian, Lebanese, Egyptian, and Muslim mercenaries, and one day the line in the sand will be crossed, BHO and the UN are going to get a big F-You from Israel, and they will do like they always have, kick ass by themselves.

Hamas fired rockets into Israel everyday. Israel responds with an ass whoopin', what do the terrorists and the world (UN) do?

Make em' stop (say it like a 5 year old), make 'em stop.....

I say let em' rip.

Oh and BTW, the Middle Eastern Apology Tour continues this week with BHO going over there to spread apologies for American Arrogance..

(Decorum prohibits my response to this on this forum)

Decorum?  I'm thinking you wanted to say something like let's all hold hands and smile whilst holding a coca-cola and chanting BHO the magnificent, BHO the brave, BHO the all wise, BHO the wonderful.....  Surely you love the BHO, right? 
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Re: THE DEATH OF ISRAEL
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2009, 01:28:57 PM »
This is a very interesting piece from Prof. Eidelberg:


A METAPOLITICAL VIEW OF USEFUL IDIOTS
by Professor Paul Eidelberg

   
 http://www.foundation1.org/

Vladimir Lenin is credited with having coined the term "useful idiots." He had in mind capitalists who would sell the Soviet Union the rope with which to hang them.
Israel's useful idiots have gone much further. They have released, armed, and even paid Arab terrorists whose prestige soars by killing Jews. Alas, I must be frank and say that Israel's useful idiots have also yielded Jewish land to Arabs dedicated to Israel's annihilation.
Ever since 1993, one Israeli prime minister after another — beginning with Yitzhak Rabin — has pursued the inane policy of "land for peace." These prime ministers have not only sacrificed their intellects to this suicidal policy; in the process, they have also sacrificed the lives and well-being of countless Jews.

Driving their stupidity is timidity. Thus, back in June 2005, when Ariel Sharon was at the helm, Jerusalem Post analyst Caroline Glick wrote an article entitled "A Coward For A Prime Minister."

Israel's ruling elites simply lack the moral and intellectual probity to pursue a Jewish — or let us merely say a more independent — foreign policy. Israel has the strategic means of doing so. Bear in mind that U.S. military aid amounts to less than 1.5 percent of Israel's Gross Domestic Product. It cost Israel more than that to erect security fences, redeploy IDF forces, and compensate Jews expelled from their homes.

It should be obvious to the people of Israel that, regardless of their political and religious convictions, the Netanyahu government will pave the road to an Arab-Islamic state in Judea and Samaria, Israel's heartland. This retreat or treachery will be facilitated by Netanyahu's Defense Minister, Labor leader Ehud Barak, who, as we shall now see, is unsurpassed as a useful idiot.

When Barak was Israel's Prime Minister, he concocted, without cabinet approval, the Sharm e-Sheikh Memorandum of September 4, 1999, in which he offered Yasser Arafat a Palestinian state consisting of 96% of Judea, Samaria, and Gaza (including the Jordan Valley), eastern Jerusalem including the Temple Mount, 4% of the Negev, and the entry of perhaps 150,000 Arab refugees! Yet Arafat said "No."

Arafat's rejection of Barak's offer is amazing! It utterly contradicts the PLO's strategy of phases whose goal is Israel's destruction. Arafat himself admitted that the Palestinians are fighting for a "political objective, namely, the liberation of the Palestinian soil and the establishment of a Palestinian state over every part of it" (March 6, 1989, Qatar News Agency).

George Habash was equally unambiguous when he vowed: "The Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza will be the beginning of the downfall of the Zionist enterprise. We will be able to rely on this defeat in order to complete the struggle to realize our entire goal, which is the complete liberation of the national Palestinian soil" (June 9, 1989, "Voice of the Mountain" Radio, Lebanon).

But Arafat was only following the phased peace-and-war strategy of Anwar Sadat, who, in an interview with al-Anwar on June 22, 1975, said that "The effort of our generation is to return to the 1967 borders. Afterward the next generation will carry the responsibility." (Emphasis added)

Weighed against this strategy, there is no commensurate political explanation for Arafat's rejection of Barak's offer. The PLO would have had control of the Judean-Samarian hills overlooking most of Israel's population. Add Arab control of the Jordan valley and Israel would have been indefensible — the conclusion reached by the American Joint Chiefs of Staff after the Six-Day War. Arafat knew this. Perhaps Arafat's rejection of Barak's offer can only be explained in metapolitical terms. 

The mantra of "two states for two peoples" is a manifestation of the atheistic doctrine of moral relativism or indifference widespread in the democratic world. Any sensible Jew or Christian would admit that the people of Sodom and Gomorra were evil, which can be said of any people whose beliefs and behavior contradict the Torah's conception of man's creation in the image of God. Alas, it is incontrovertible, that Islam's attitude and behavior toward non-Muslims contradicts the idea that man is created in the image of God — and that is why peace is impossible between Israel and the so-called Palestinians.

This simple and palpable truth is too much for Benjamin Netanyahu, who, in a speech before a joint session of the American Congress, gratuitously denied the obvious clash of civilizations between Israel and her Arab-Islamic neighbors. Mr. Netanyahu is too modest to think he can overcome a clash of civilizations by diplomacy. But this does not prevent him from proposing an economic development plan that will transform the Palestinians into peace-loving bourgeois democrats.

Leaving aside the question of whether the Palestinians constitute a people rather than a assortment of Arab clans and tribes, Daniel Pipes said it would take one or two generations for these Arabs to overcome their savage hatred of Jews and Israel and become worthy of independent statehood. Between 1918 and 1933, four American administrations refused to recognize the Soviet Union for moral and legal reasons: its aggressive intentions and failure to abide by international law

Israel's annihilation remains the goal of the PLO, stipulated in its Constitution. This goal has not been rescinded by the Palestinian Authority under Fatah leader of Mahmoud Abbas. The same goal is proclaimed in the Hamas Covenant, to which Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh is committed. Abbas and Haniyeh seems to be playing the "soft-cop/hard-cop" routine vis-à-vis Israel and the West. This enables Abbas to obtain enormous sums of money from the useful idiots in Washington and Europe, money shared with Hamas.

The Obama administration is flooded with useful idiots. Suffice to mention George Mitchell, Brent Scowcroft, and Zbigniew Brzezinski who want the U.S. to deal with, hence finance Hamas. These "see no evil, hear no evil, and speak no evil" bent-Americans are oblivious of the territorial and demographic absurdity of the "two-state solution."

More than two million Arabs restricted to 2,323 square miles of the West Bank, and another million Arabs squeezed into 141 square miles in Gaza, is a formula for economic stagnation and murderous discontent. The projected Arab state will be a cauldron of envious hatred of Israel fueled by the leaders of one or another Arab clan or group of thugs parading under the banner of Allah.

The Netanyahu-Barak or Likud-Labor alliance will not only fail to establish peace with Israel's mortal enemies. The failure and its grievous consequences will lead to widespread disgust among the people of Israel. They will be utterly fed up with parties that talk peace when it will be obvious to all but imbeciles that peace is not possible with Israel's enemies.

The people will be more disgusted than ever with a political system that entrenches fools and scoundrels in office — those who make a "politics of peace," that is, of lies, to perpetuate their power.

The people will be utterly disgusted with any party that advocates the mindless policy of "territory for peace." They will see that the Likud, contrary to its reputation, is not a rightwing party, that the Likud and Labor are two peas in pod to which one may add Kadima. Another debacle with the Palestinians may very well lead to a major transformation of Israel's dysfunctional system of coalition cabinet government. Indeed, Israel may soon undergo "regime change."

Regime change would require fundamental reconstruction of Israel's political and judicial institutions in ways consistent with Jewish ideas and values. Post-Zionists will then be seen to have unwittingly served a positive purpose: to facilitate, through blood and tears, the ascendancy of an authentic Jewish commonwealth!

This ascendancy may be hastened by the regime in Washington! Its anti-Israel policy will put an end to the illusion that Israel's survival depends on the United States. This illusion has hindered Israel from gaining control of its own destiny. For as we learn in the Torah — and contrary to Netanyahu's book A Place Among the Nations, Israel must stand alone and not reckon itself among the nations!

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Re: THE DEATH OF ISRAEL
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2009, 01:29:57 PM »
Actually I'd rather be painting "Greetings from America on the nose of a Nuke tipped Cruise missile, but that's just me, others may prefer an ICBM.

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Re: THE DEATH OF ISRAEL
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2009, 05:21:25 PM »
Actually I'd rather be painting "Greetings from America on the nose of a Nuke tipped Cruise missile, but that's just me, others may prefer an ICBM.

Submarines, nice and close, too quick to form any response...

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Re: THE DEATH OF ISRAEL
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2009, 06:03:28 PM »
Marshal'ette, I would question the veracity of your source for that post, some of what is said doesn't make sense in view of historic facts.
The article states "Driving their stupidity is timidity. Thus, back in June 2005, when Ariel Sharon was at the helm, Jerusalem Post analyst Caroline Glick wrote an article entitled "A Coward For A Prime Minister."
While it is perfectly possible that Ms. Glick wrote that, I very much doubt that it was in the context this article insinuates.
Ariel Sharon, former IDF chief of staff and multi time prime minister is a noted hard liner who served during the Six day war and the October war, he Commanded "Operation Peace for Gallilee" the invasion that drove the PLO from Lebanon, as Prime minister he again ordered an invasion of southern Lebanon. Sharon was one of the powers behind the settlement movement, the primary aim of which was to displace arabs with Jews in the "Occupied Territories" this hardly gives credence to the depiction of an appeaser.
Benjamin Netanyahu is of the same type, with out the military credentials he was another facilitator of the settlement program.
As for Ehud Barak, all I know is that he is the former Mayor of Jerusalem, as to his offer to trade Arrafat land for peace I remember reading about it that while it sounds like a sweet deal for the PLO Isreal included some security requirements they knew would kill the deal but still left them in the position to tell a critical BJ Clinton "Look WE tried, they are the ones who are being a problem".
It is also suspicious that this article  states " More than two million Arabs restricted to 2,323 square miles of the West Bank, and another million Arabs squeezed into 141 square miles in Gaza, is a formula for economic stagnation and murderous discontent. The projected Arab state will be a cauldron of envious hatred of Israel fueled by the leaders of one or another Arab clan or group of thugs parading under the banner of Allah." without mentioning that it was not the Jews who drove the arabs there in the first place but "the leaders of one or another Arab clan or group of thugs parading under the banner of Allah." To be specific the leaders of Syria, Egypt, Iraq, The Muslim Brotherhood, and to a lesser extent the King of Jordan and the Govt of Lebanon.

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