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Re: Gun statistics
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2009, 08:41:17 PM »
How about "recidivism" and "recommend".....drive's me crazy as well.....especially from someone with an advanced degree!

I try my best but it's more from the speed at which I type that I make mistakes.  I will correct them when I see them though...

Is that really a word.  ???









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Re: Gun statistics
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2009, 08:49:45 PM »
Is that really a word.  ???
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recidivism;   

the tendency to relapse into a previous condition or mode of behavior ; especially : relapse into criminal behavior

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Re: Gun statistics
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2009, 08:53:28 PM »
recidivism;   

the tendency to relapse into a previous condition or mode of behavior ; especially : relapse into criminal behavior

Recidivism  a good word for us corner dwellers. Me, I prefer obdurate; hardened in the ways of evil. Did anyone replace the cheeze whiz? ;D
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Re: Gun statistics
« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2009, 08:56:07 PM »
Crime, Deterrence, And Right-to-Carry Concealed Weapons published January 1997
The Journal of Legal Studies
The University of Chicago
Chicago, IL 60637-2954
phone: (773) 702-7600


Lotts original study of every county in the US crime statistics as related to gun crime and the ability of citizens to protect themselves from crime with a gun.
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Re: Gun statistics
« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2009, 04:36:28 AM »
Crime, Deterrence, And Right-to-Carry Concealed Weapons published January 1997
The Journal of Legal Studies
The University of Chicago
Chicago, IL 60637-2954
phone: (773) 702-7600


Lotts original study of every county in the US crime statistics as related to gun crime and the ability of citizens to protect themselves from crime with a gun.

This is a great study. I'm kind of in awe at the statistics used to do the analysis. There is no way I can do anything 1% as amazing as this, but, in truth, I just want to pass my class. It's great that you all want to debate the effects of guns on crime, but I do not. In my paper, I am ALLOWED to conclude that one variable is not a significant predictor of another. I'm not even looking for the "best" variable that predicts violent crime rates, homicide rates, or homicide by gun rates. In my paper, I'm free to look at whatever variables I please.

The reason I was trying to use gun sales as a proxy for gun control laws is that if one believes that gun control laws to ANYTHING, it would be that they reduced the number of guns sold. The laws are put in place to keep guns (sometimes specific types) from reaching the hands of people (also sometimes specific types). If gun sales have not significantly decreased after a law is put in place, then the law isn't doing what it is "supposed" to be doing. I thought this data, or at least some form of it, would be available online, but I haven't been able to find any.

The next variable I wanted to use was percent of the population that had at least one gun in or around the household. Gun control proponents seem to think that the more people have guns, the more times guns will be used to commit crime. I wanted to see if that were true, to I would have put gun ownership as a predictor variable for violent crime, or homicide, or specifically gun crime rate. Then I get to find how good of a predictor it is. So far, all I have found for percent ownership has been one survey in 2001 that I'm not really impressed with. If anyone could help me with information on where I can find better data, it would be most appreciated.

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Re: Gun statistics
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Re: Gun statistics
« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2009, 04:45:27 AM »
This is a great study. I'm kind of in awe at the statistics used to do the analysis. There is no way I can do anything 1% as amazing as this, but, in truth, I just want to pass my class. It's great that you all want to debate the effects of guns on crime, but I do not. In my paper, I am ALLOWED to conclude that one variable is not a significant predictor of another. I'm not even looking for the "best" variable that predicts violent crime rates, homicide rates, or homicide by gun rates. In my paper, I'm free to look at whatever variables I please.

The reason I was trying to use gun sales as a proxy for gun control laws is that if one believes that gun control laws to ANYTHING, it would be that they reduced the number of guns sold. The laws are put in place to keep guns (sometimes specific types) from reaching the hands of people (also sometimes specific types). If gun sales have not significantly decreased after a law is put in place, then the law isn't doing what it is "supposed" to be doing. I thought this data, or at least some form of it, would be available online, but I haven't been able to find any.

The next variable I wanted to use was percent of the population that had at least one gun in or around the household. Gun control proponents seem to think that the more people have guns, the more times guns will be used to commit crime. I wanted to see if that were true, to I would have put gun ownership as a predictor variable for violent crime, or homicide, or specifically gun crime rate. Then I get to find how good of a predictor it is. So far, all I have found for percent ownership has been one survey in 2001 that I'm not really impressed with. If anyone could help me with information on where I can find better data, it would be most appreciated.
Give us your abstract, and we would be able to offer better advice. Because the narrower the question, the more precise the answer is likely to be. Good advice from a prof on composing a paper, and good advice on life in general.
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Re: Gun statistics
« Reply #26 on: June 09, 2009, 05:37:16 AM »
there are no numbers on how many americans own guns.( legally)

Infact the only thing the ATF can tell you about a given year is:

1 how many guns were made

2 how many background checks were done.( remember you can buy 10k long guns off 1 background check, but you must do a back ground check for every hand gun.)

They  can not tell you how many were sold( new guns)  

even the NRA does not realease how many members they have.  

so your not going to find those numbers.  


oh yeah... some gun owners wil not tell you if they own guns...some its " None of your biz" the others are keeping the tin foil companys afloat.
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Re: Gun statistics
« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2009, 07:19:49 AM »
This is off subject, but, when they are done doing the back round check, what do the do with that info?  Also, if we don't have gun registration, why do they need make, model, and serial number?
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Re: Gun statistics
« Reply #28 on: June 09, 2009, 07:26:11 AM »
This is off subject, but, when they are done doing the back round check, what do the do with that info?  Also, if we don't have gun registration, why do they need make, model, and serial number?

Salty,

There is probably a database of the information somewhere that the Feds control.  It is just not legal for them to publish the information.  Here in MA, all firearms regardless of age are registered.  I just sent in the paperwork for two long guns I was keeping in CT, I had seven days to send in the paperwork to the Records Bureau after I brought them up here.

"For more than five years, cities suing the gun industry and anti-gun organizations have sought access to confidential law enforcement data on firearms traces. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) compiles these records when it traces firearms in response to requests from law enforcement agencies.

Every year since 2003, the U.S. Congress has passed increasingly strong language to keep this information confidential. The legislation—a series of "riders" to the appropriations bill that funds BATFE—is widely known as the "Tiahrt Amendment," after its sponsor, Rep. Todd Tiahrt (R-Kan.)."



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Re: Gun statistics
« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2009, 11:43:41 AM »
 Another impediment to your research is that many states do not regulate "Private sales" between individuals, therefore they create no paper trail or NICS call.

 

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