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no room for Gadhafi
« on: August 24, 2009, 05:36:34 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090824/ap_on_re_us/us_gadhafi_not_welcome

ENGLEWOOD, N.J. — When Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi comes to the United Nations next month, he wants to pitch his special air-conditioned tent on a lawn in New Jersey, a proposal that has outraged neighbors and added insult to injury in a state that lost 33 residents in the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103.

Residents of the New York suburb are riled by reports that Gadhafi may stay in a Bedouin tent on a Libyan-owned estate there and would prefer that he set up shop elsewhere, said Rep. Steve Rothman, whose congressional district includes Englewood.

"Gadhafi is a dangerous dictator whose hands are covered with the blood of Americans and our allies," Rothman said, promising there would be "hell to pay" if the State Department violated a deal barring the dictator from staying at the Libyan estate.

Department officials said Monday that no decision has been made on where Gadhafi will set up shop.

A bomb placed by Libyan intelligence blew Flight 103 out of the sky over Lockerbie, Scotland, in 1988, killing all 259 people aboard and another 11 on the ground. Gadhafi gave the cancer-stricken architect of that attack a hero's welcome last week after he was given compassionate release from a Scottish prison.

Rothman was mayor of Englewood 26 years ago when the city learned the Libyan mission to the United Nations had bought the Palisade Avenue estate. Local officials worked out a deal with the State Department limiting its use to the recreational activities by the ambassador and his family, Rothman said. The Libyans don't pay taxes on it.

Gadhafi's upcoming U.N. appearance culminates a years-long effort to rehabilitate the Libyan strongman's international image, which has included denouncing weapons of mass destruction. He has ruled the oil-rich North African nation since 1969.

"This is what happens when you have the path of appeasement," Susan Cohen, a resident of Cape May Court House whose 20-year-old daughter died in the Pan Am bombing. "He's getting everything he wants, and I guess that includes a trip to the state of New Jersey, which certainly doesn't need this."

In Washington, U.S. officials said Englewood was one option the Libyans were looking at to pitch the tent after their request to set it up New York's Central Park had been denied because of logistics and security concerns.

"We have been talking to the U.N. about this issue, we've been talking to the New York City authorities about the issue of where Mr. Gadhafi is going to stay, but no decisions have been made," State spokesman Ian Kelly said Monday. "No decision has been made about where anybody's going to pitch a tent."

Nicole DiCocco, spokeswoman for the Libyan Embassy in Washington, confirmed that the Englewood estate is a possible site for Gadhafi to stay. She said that he would use the tent for entertainment, not live in it, but that it hasn't been confirmed where he'll actually stay.

Sen. Frank Lautenberg has asked the State Department to limit Gadhafi's travel in the U.S. to the U.N. headquarters district.

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Re: no room for Gadhafi
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2009, 05:47:20 PM »
I guess I'm showing my age, but I've got no use for Gadhafi. I couldn't care less that he is now "reformed".......F^%k him!

Here's my idea for Gadhafi..........................
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Re: no room for Gadhafi
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2009, 06:39:41 PM »
lol im gonna save that animation  ;D
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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2009, 07:56:08 PM »
He has American blood on his hands. He shouldn't set foot on our soil!!    
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Re: no room for Gadhafi
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2009, 11:25:35 PM »
One of the most interesting people of the last century. The insanity he visited upon the Libyan people could not even be understood by most in the West. If most here truly understood all the EVIL things that this man has done there would never have been a settlement with Libya, but that is the price of our greed. I highly recommend reading Libya's Qaddafi: The Politics of Contradiction by Dr. Mansour El-Kikhia (even though the author is a Ba'athist-he used to have a column in our local fish wrap.) If you read the rumors-which are mostly true, about what Qaddafi has been involved with(assassination attempts, bombings, etc.) , even up until recent times, i.e. after he declared his WMD program,it makes no sense in rewarding the sick SOB  with the lifting of sanctions.

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Re: no room for Gadhafi
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2009, 11:33:16 PM »
One of the most interesting people of the last century. The insanity he visited upon the Libyan people could not even be understood by most in the West. If most here truly understood all the EVIL things that this man has done there would never have been a settlement with Libya, but that is the price of our greed. I highly recommend reading Libya's Qaddafi: The Politics of Contradiction by Dr. Mansour El-Kikhia (even though the author is a Ba'athist-he used to have a column in our local fish wrap.) If you read the rumors-which are mostly true, about what Qaddafi has been involved with(assassination attempts, bombings, etc.) , even up until recent times, i.e. after he declared his WMD program,it makes no sense in rewarding the sick SOB  with the lifting of sanctions.

Qaddafi got his "good guy" card for the covert help he has been giving us in the war on terror. The Palistinians took his money by the truckload but when he asked the ,then new, Palestinian Authority to invest some in his economy to help him out they said , "aah gee, we're getting a better deal from the French"Radical Islam screwed him the same way so he said "well f%$k you both " and has been feeding us intel ever since. The way we went through Saddam's army like shit through a goose in 91 had some to do with it as well since he has the same stuff but slightly older less capable models.

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Re: no room for Gadhafi
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2009, 06:42:38 AM »
In the mid to late 90's the radical imans started talking about running Libya.  Colonel Qaddafi reinforced the fact that he was the leader of Libya and they were all killed.  There is a lessen in that.

I think Reagan taught him to be polite but his ephiphany (sp?) came to him with all the imans who thought they were going to rule Libya.  His children have spent much/most of their time living the high life in Europe and were instrumental in driving him towards relations with the US.  Tripoli is safer to walk through anywhere at night then anywhere in New Orleans in the daylight and I have that from several oil guys I know who tripped over there a few years ago.

We, the US, were invited back in for oil production a few years ago....Libya was tired of being screwed by the Canadians, French and Brits on oil.  Technology was able to make it there from Canada despite import bans, but the useless European socialists running the oil production (large European companies, you know their names) had layers upon layers of people who did nothing.  Everything was just as we, the US, left it, well cared for, wellpainted and operating well, but did no one addressed the changing oil production physics involved and there was no leadership from the socialist drone engineers so his production "evaporated".  This also includes the failure of Soviet oil companies who built facilities and never quite came through for the Libyans.

Libya aside for their politics, but I wonder what people are smoking when Exxon & Chevron make billions from their overseas operations....all of the laws and politics being designed here in the US are causing them to be penalized for being overseas.  They are only contractors for the national oil companies overseas...they do not own the oil or set the prices...they are contractors who produce the oil for the various nations who own the resources.  Lease ownership overseas does not include citizens, in general, but the oil is rather owned by the nations.  The national oil companies set the prices and we need to be smart about our laws....else we will have BP, Shell, Total, Fina, etc.. making those billions we pay in oil and none of it will come back to the US.  And then there is the failure to thrive and develop resources as shown in Libya....remove US oil companies and world oil production will fall....look at Chavez's Venuezuela, look at Libya and anywhere else the US was invited out.
  Since we consume about 15 million barrels a day more than we produce, it really is in our interest to produce oil overseas with US companies and let them bring a portion of those dollars back home.
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Re: no room for Gadhafi
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2009, 07:09:16 AM »
Let him pitch his tent in the UN building or maybe 1/4 mi. beyond "Lady Liberty"!

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