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Re: New Bushmaster BA-50 .50 BMG Rifle!
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2009, 10:18:02 PM »
Well thats cool and all but I had a LWR .499 and it was very cool too.
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Re: New Bushmaster BA-50 .50 BMG Rifle!
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2009, 10:54:11 PM »
As far as glass don't mess around. You've already sunk four figures into the beast and are going to pay $5 and up every time you pull the trigger. I'd look at Kahr, Schmidt and Bender or Zeiss in 12-24.

Here is the problem with scoping these rifles with big buck scopes. It isn't money, it is the fact .50 BMG's tear up scopes. The reason isn't what you might think. It isn't recoil, but rather the lack of it from the way the excellent muzzle brakes work. On most every heavy recoiling hunting rifle, say a .458 Win. Mag., the recoil goes one way. Straight back into your shoulder until all of it is absorbed by the shooter.

On a .50 BMG it becomes a two stage process. That is what ruins scopes. This phenomenon is much like what air rifles do to scopes. You can put a $1,200.00 Leupold on a $50.00 Crossman from Wal-Mart and achieve much the same result. Upon firing the scope and rifle starts back. When the bullet uncovers the muzzle brake ports it begins to pull the rifle forward, much like the clamshell thrust reverser on a jet engine does after the plane touches down. Then the rifle pulls forward. You as the shooter don't feel this. You simply feel the much softer "push" it all makes happen. But the scope "feels" everything. First rear thrust, then forward. A bit like hitting a brick wall in your truck....... then getting rear ended a millisecond later. Your neck is like a wet noodle. Your scope reacts much the same way.

Check out this high speed, slo-mo video. Watch the scope base, scope and rifle. It is unbelievable how much the whole thing flexes! This is a $15,000.00 Accuracy International semi auto. No matter, Sir Issac Newton doesn't care how much you paid for your scope and mounts!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5pVya7eask&feature=channel_page


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Re: New Bushmaster BA-50 .50 BMG Rifle!
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2009, 11:26:18 PM »
Iron sights it is! ;D
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Re: New Bushmaster BA-50 .50 BMG Rifle!
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2009, 11:42:53 PM »
Here is the problem with scoping these rifles with big buck scopes. It isn't money, it is the fact .50 BMG's tear up scopes. The reason isn't what you might think. It isn't recoil, but rather the lack of it from the way the excellent muzzle brakes work. On most every heavy recoiling hunting rifle, say a .458 Win. Mag., the recoil goes one way. Straight back into your shoulder until all of it is absorbed by the shooter.

On a .50 BMG it becomes a two stage process. That is what ruins scopes. This phenomenon is much like what air rifles do to scopes. You can put a $1,200.00 Leupold on a $50.00 Crossman from Wal-Mart and achieve much the same result. Upon firing the scope and rifle starts back. When the bullet uncovers the muzzle brake ports it begins to pull the rifle forward, much like the clamshell thrust reverser on a jet engine does after the plane touches down. Then the rifle pulls forward. You as the shooter don't feel this. You simply feel the much softer "push" it all makes happen. But the scope "feels" everything. First rear thrust, then forward. A bit like hitting a brick wall in your truck....... then getting rear ended. Your neck is like a wet noodle. Your scope reacts much the same way.

Check out this high speed, slo-mo video. Watch the scope base, scope and rifle. It is unbelievable how much the whole thing flexes! This is a $15,000.00 Accuracy International semi auto. No matter, Sir Issac Newton doesn't care how much you paid for your scope and mounts!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5pVya7eask&feature=channel_page


Oddly enough you get the same effect with a spring piston air rifle. The forward part of the recoil will trash a scope that isn't forward braced. Bushnell and RWS make a few that are dedicated to this. They are relatively cheap (around $100) and built like a Brinks truck. You will not destroy them. The thing is, puttinga 4x scope on that rifle is like haivng a visa card with a $500 limit, no fun at all. ;D
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Re: New Bushmaster BA-50 .50 BMG Rifle!
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2009, 01:34:24 AM »
Man, the "why I hate Bill list" keeps getting longer.  ;)  ;D

Now thats a good idea for a thread, right there.


*Perhaps one with a poll!




I hate Bill because:







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Re: New Bushmaster BA-50 .50 BMG Rifle!
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Re: New Bushmaster BA-50 .50 BMG Rifle!
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2009, 01:45:23 AM »
Isn't one of the 3200 Elites a favorite of Barette?

I know there are several models of 3200, but should be easy for find what they are using ... Or if it is only a set up dealers are using that isn't lasting either.

By the way,

I won't add you to my hate list based on this purchase.  I have gone through the little guys sitting on both shoulders arguing through my ears.  What has kept me from laying down the cash is the fact that I don't have a range available to use it at.  However, I have always said if I had a 1,000 yard and longer available I spend the money awful quick.
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Re: New Bushmaster BA-50 .50 BMG Rifle!
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2009, 02:02:37 AM »
  I have gone through the little guys sitting on both shoulders arguing through my ears.  What has kept me from laying down the cash is the fact that I don't have a range available to use it at.  However, I have always said if I had a 1,000 yard and longer available I spend the money awful quick.

I'm in the same boat as you, and I think most people. There are fewer and fewer ranges open to shooting the .50 BMG cartridge. Mostly because of the blast. Here in the Phoenix metro area there is only one public range that allows them. That is Rio Salado on the east side of town. I talked myself out of this gun many times. It is very hard to justify this kind of purchase for a gun with such limited use.

The way It looks is if Hussein gets shut down on his big health care boondoggle, he is liable to lash out in typical liberal fashion. Guns could be on the list. If they are you can bet the .50 caliber rifles will be in the crosshairs. I can just see Feinstein and Chucky Schumer carrying on about, "Who needs one of these things!" For me it's 90% fun, and a 10% investment. They keep chugging away in price. Lousy economy and all. I just figured it was time to jump on the .50 band wagon. Now or never as they say.   Bill T.

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Re: New Bushmaster BA-50 .50 BMG Rifle!
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2009, 10:26:30 PM »
For anyone who might be interested, this place really has good prices, as well as choices in .50 BMG ammunition, components, and information.  Bill T.

http://www.50bmgsupply.com/

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Re: New Bushmaster BA-50 .50 BMG Rifle!
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2009, 09:18:33 AM »
Once again Bill has done it!! ;D

Very nice!! With or without a scope 8) 8)


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Re: New Bushmaster BA-50 .50 BMG Rifle!
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2009, 09:36:36 AM »
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PS
            I hate you Bill  ;D

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Man, the "why I hate Bill list" keeps getting longer.  ;)  ;D

Now thats a good idea for a thread, right there.


*Perhaps one with a poll!



Here it is:
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=8951.msg115630#msg115630
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