CDC - 2005 Deaths Final Data

[Ichiban]

FYI - Here's the URL to the CDC's final report on deaths in 2005.
Some interesting reading here.  Table 10 on page 31 is where the meat is.

For example: 789 deaths from accidental discharge of firearms vs 2653 from complications of medical and surgical care.  It can only be assumed that these "complications" (which are probably grossly under reported) were "accidental" as well.  Therefore doctors are more dangerous than gun owners.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr56/nvsr56_10.pdf

[PegLeg45]

For example: 789 deaths from accidental discharge of firearms vs 2653 from complications of medical and surgical care.  It can only be assumed that these "complications" (which are probably grossly under reported) were "accidental" as well.  Therefore doctors are more dangerous than gun owners.

And the doctors don't even have to be loaded to f**k up and kill ya.

[TAB]

And the doctors don't even have to be loaded to f**k up and kill ya.

I don't know about that, when my wife gets loaded... well lets just qoute  prince.   "grit your teeth and hold on tight"

 


you would be shocked at how many times medical professionals screw up.  Whats scary is they can F up really bad and still be a medical professional.

[Timothy]

First in the class is called Doctor and the LAST in the class is called Doctor!

Which one is your personal physician?  Mine was a snot nosed kid of 32 with four thumbs, dirty hands and a knife!

[fightingquaker13]

Its the system. Doctors limit the enrollment at medical schools to keep numbers low and salaries high. Great deal when you're 40 and done with residency. Sucks when you're a resident working 100 hour weeks. Sucks more when you're a patient being treated by a gal who hasn't slept in two days. Tell me you wouldn't forget something under those conditions, no matter how good you are at your job. What we need are more doctors and a more humane (read sane) training schedule for doctors.
FQ13
PS To prove my point I offer a hypothectical. If we were to ban caffine from residents, I would wager that every ER in the country would come to a screetching halt inside of 24 hours. Hell, my DENTIST (who was also an MD. as he dealt mostly with reconstructive work) told me that the only way he made it through the day as a resident was to self prescibe amphetamines. He offered to write me a low dose script (no charge as  he wasn't a dealer or an addict, just sympathetic) to help me through my comps. That is 9 shades of F!@#$D up. Yet it is what happens every day.

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[tombogan03884]

 FQ is on the right track but the blame falls on the AMA.

[ericire12]

I dont blame the doctors as much as those professors they had in med school!

[fightingquaker13]

I dont blame the doctors as much as those professors they had in med school!

They aren't to blame either. There are too few students and too few med schools. Granted, opening a med school is a high dollar undertaking. Making it one where you would trust one of its graduates to put your child under the knife is higher dollar still. In this climate, where short sighted politicians see any form of higher education (or education period) as a luxuary not a necessity, its hard to make the case. But sometimes you have to plan ahead. Its why buying a long term care policy when you're fifty is cheaper than when you're seventy. Tom is right (God its burns my fingers to type that ). The AMA has lobbyed against expanding med schools, and purely out of self interest. They, and your cowardly state legislature who is afraid to say that there are some bills we have to pay and it will cost you, are to blame.FQ13

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