Weapons failed US troops during Afghan firefight

[TAB]

you mean this video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNAohtjG14c


yeah, thats tactical...  look at how controlable it is... oh wait, he could hit a damn thing.

[Badgersmilk]

you mean this video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNAohtjG14c


yeah, thats tactical...  look at how controlable it is... oh wait, he could hit a damn thing.

Not to bright are you...  DID IT JAM?  THAT is my point about the AK.  I'm sure you've waisted money on an AR, and will defend them to your dieing day because of it.  

YOU'VE been in combat with an AR?  You have no right to run your mouth defending them if not.

[TAB]

will it shoot again?

its very easy for a machinery to keep functioning when they are hot,  not so much after they cool down.


does not matter if its a gun or a motor.  as long as they are hot they are fine, its when they cool down that things tend to brake.

[1911 Junkie]

Hey BM.....

You want to ask TAB if he has ever been in combat with an AR?

Have YOU ever been in comabat with an AK?  No? Then STFU.



Sorry, You go Rambo!

I'm also willing to bet a Boyscout with an Ar would be better than you with an AK.

Wait, I know mechanics are highly trained and skilled combat troops.   Pogue.

[ratcatcher55]

I have never been in a high volume firefight so take this for what its worth.

I have had a few mad minutes where you dump 2-4 magazines as fast as possible. A properly lubed M-4 will be hot but will function.

I did take a training course where you WERE NOT allowed to clean you rifle, only add lubricant. Rate of fire was sustained, 600 rounds in 7 hours. I had no problems the first day but day 2 the chamber would gum up so bad the round would not eject. It got bad enough that in some cases I need to take out a leatherman tool and pry out the spent case.

This continued untlil I had enough of stoppage practice that I stuck a gloved finger in the chamber and wiped out the gunk in the chamber. The rifle ran fine for the rest of the day. The ammo was M855. Total rounds count was 1600+

I would believe the problem is fouling the chamber and not the heat. Every M4 or M16 had the same issue.

I have seen several of AK that would not fire more than one or two rounds with out stopping. Typically this was because they were without any lubrication and not cleaned. An AK is a very robust platform but it does still need some care and feeding.

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[tombogan03884]

As a matter of fact BM, I most certainly WOULD NOT be using full auto because in the situation you describe every round MUST be on target, there is not enough time or space to waste on hosing the neighbor hood and changing mags. I MIGHT use 3 round burst.

Hey BM.....

You want to ask TAB if he has ever been in combat with an AR?

Have YOU ever been in comabat with an AK?  No? Then STFU.



Sorry, You go Rambo!

I'm also willing to bet a Boyscout with an Ar would be better than you with an AK.

Wait, I know mechanics are highly trained and skilled combat troops.   Pogue.

Hey Junkie, Where did you come up with "Pogue" I thought on Marines used that one. I thought everyone else called them "REMF's".

[TAB]

Hey BM.....

You want to ask TAB if he has ever been in combat with an AR?

Have YOU ever been in comabat with an AK?  No? Then STFU.

I could ask you the same qs.

[1911 Junkie]

I could ask you the same qs.

I have never been in combat nor have I ever claimed to.

Hey Junkie, Where did you come up with "Pogue" I thought on Marines used that one. I thought everyone else called them "REMF's".

My brother was 10th Mountain. They used it all the time.

[TAB]

Then take your own advice.

I know from both my training as a engineer and personal exp, that machinery will keep functioning  if hot, but will fail after it cools down.

[1911 Junkie]

Then take your own advice.

I know from both my training as a engineer and personal exp, that machinery will keep functioning  if hot, but will fail after it cools down.

Ugh, TAB, In the first post I was Talking to BM, not you. Now have your surgeon wife remove the stick from your ass.

(unless you like it there, of course)