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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: fullautovalmet76 on February 03, 2010, 07:44:25 PM
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Here's the link to the story: http://pistol-training.com/archives/2455
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I'm sure there was very little in that gone that did not get replaced/ custom fited.
I also think you could hand him any gun and he could kick ass with it after some practice.
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FA it is nice to see SOMEONE, not sandbag a classifier.
Tab if you watched the mixed revolver/pistol match invitational at Gunsite, Dave would need a lot of practice with some platforms.
Don't get me wrong, Dave is a great shooter.
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I'm sure there was very little in that gone that did not get replaced/ custom fited.
I also think you could hand him any gun and he could kick ass with it after some practice.
TAB,
Have you ever taken a Glock apart? There is VERY LITTLE to replace or upgrade. In fact the article lists what was on/in the gun; it would be able to qualify for Production/SSP in USPSA/IDPA.
I know you like 1911s, as I do, but you have to get over your irrational hate of these pistols. The Gen 4 pistols are really the closest thing to perfection now.... ;)
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Oh great,......... The "G4 Glockheads" are getting bigger,....... ;D
To give an analogy, Tiger Woods can still kick a lot of ass on the course, with Wal-Mart/Pawn shop clubs....
If your good, your good.
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you don't need to replace anything to tune a gun, something as simple as honing the mating surfaces can make a huge diffrence.
Actually there are several very rational reason why I don't like glocks.
lets forget get all the stuff that is subjective. Lets focus on the things that are platform related.
safety.
they have none,
you have to pull the trigger to take apart the gun( yeah safe handling rules should cover this, but we all know that people don't awalys fallow the rules)
also you can not run a 1911 is ssp/ stock pistol.
its alot like super stock drag racing, the rules on bore spacing will only let you run either a bbc, smaller mopars of FE style ford blocks. You can't for example run a 460 ford. So if you want to run a ford, you are stuck with a 65 year old engine design that has zero after market racing parts, not to mention the fact that the bigest motor you can build will still be well over 200 CI smaller then one you can build with a chevy or a mopar. yet people claim, that the BBC is the best motor and cite this racing class as proof.
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I would bet that there have been more AD's on the 1911 platform from people lowering the hammer on a round than pulling the trigger on a Glock to dis-assemble it. The 1911 is the sum of its fitted parts, the Tupperware is not. Sevigny is da man.
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I would not be so sure about that.
I have little doubt that there have been more NDs with glocks then there have with 1911. and the 1911 has 70+ years on glock.
A big part of that is LEOs shooting themselfs, Our local SO was average 3 a year, when they had glocks, since they switched to sigs, they have only had 1. its been about 5 years.
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TAB, In you pig headed posting you completely miss the point that with a NEW to EVERYONE pistol, he not only did better than they did, He did better than HE had ever done before.
Sure, a highly skilled shooter can shoot well with any pistol, but it takes a VERY good pistol to allow a multiple national champion to outshoot HIMSELF.
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TAB
Here's the thing about Glocks. They are monkey simple. Compare them to 1911s. Everybody and their dog makes a 1911 and they're a zillion custom shops that will fine tune yours. You can buy God's own number of custom barrels, trigger groups, grips etc. How much of ths stuff is offered for the Glock? When did you last see someone offer a "custom" Glock? The reason is that it doesn't need it. This isn't Quaker drinking kool-aid, its just looking at the marketplace. If there were a demand for fancy custom glocks some one would get rich meeting that demand, likely several someones. That isn't the case. This should tell you something.
FQ13
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I'm sure there was very little in that gone that did not get replaced/ custom fited.
I also think you could hand him any gun and he could kick ass with it after some practice.
He probably would do well.
He did, however, choose the firearm he felt would give him the greatest edge. Or maybe he got it as a gift?
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He probably would do well.
He did, however, choose the firearm he felt would give him the greatest edge. Or maybe he got it as a gift?
he is the leader of team glock, he gets paid to shoot a glock.
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TAB
Here's the thing about Glocks. They are monkey simple. Compare them to 1911s. Everybody and their dog makes a 1911 and they're a zillion custom shops that will fine tune yours. You can buy God's own number of custom barrels, trigger groups, grips etc. How much of ths stuff is offered for the Glock? When did you last see someone offer a "custom" Glock? The reason is that it doesn't need it. This isn't Quaker drinking kool-aid, its just looking at the marketplace. If there were a demand for fancy custom glocks some one would get rich meeting that demand, likely several someones. That isn't the case. This should tell you something.
FQ13
There ARE barrels out there for GLOCKS.
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Sevigny just made it harder for me to go up to the next class. 100% on that qualifier is now that much higher. You suck.
;)
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Sevigny just made it harder for me to go up to the next class. 100% on that qualifier is now that much higher. You suck.
;)
Stinks to be you. I'd be happy if they just didn't laugh when they saw my name on the roster. ;D
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I would not be so sure about that.
I have little doubt that there have been more NDs with glocks then there have with 1911. and the 1911 has 70+ years on glock.
A big part of that is LEOs shooting themselfs, Our local SO was average 3 a year, when they had glocks, since they switched to sigs, they have only had 1. its been about 5 years.
When the NJ State Police went from HK-P7 to Sig P228 they had a rash of NO's because troopers had to learn a new way to decock their pistols. I would consider this a training issue not a pistol design issue
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I hate Glocks purely on asthetic shortcomings and the "brotha" effect, but cannot say enough about the simplicity and dependability of teh Glock. As for safety, every gun is as safe or dangerous as teh hand it is in. My M&P in my hand is just as safe as a 1911 because i am not an idiot.
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Wow that is some great shooting...and also...WOW there sure are some very strong opinions on glocks. I myself like them and ccw a glock 27, why, well it doesnt jam(most important) and as long as I dont crack the frame I can fix the gun, parts are easy to get, etc. I also shoot 1911's , xd's, browning buckmarks, ruger 22's etc. Glocks work plain and simple, they dont need a safety, teh safety is the shooter keeps his finger off the damn trigger til ready to fire. ND's with glocks are a training issue more than anything. YMMV, but I am a glock fan.
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BuckMarks are great ! ;D