The Down Range Forum
Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: JC5123 on June 23, 2010, 11:25:55 AM
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I don't know how long this will last, Democrats have already gotten this stripped off Youtube. So watch it quick.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/01/025329.php
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Freakin' awesome video, well done.
Sadly, I think the system is so broken that the only solution is the Mussolini Solution. These people will not change, they will not surrender, they will not allow us to remove them from office through any other means than the point of a gun. The mood in this country is so ugly now it is almost palpable, on both sides of the statist / non-statist spectrum.
I think the trigger will come after extensive vote fraud is suggested or rumored and key statist people in DC are retained in spite of this anger and mobilization. I am not advocating it, I do not want the hard war. But folks, we have lost the soft war, more than 2 decades of liberal public school and college education (and I ain't referring to liberal arts) has produced a nearly worthless populace in most areas - ignorant and indoctrinated in the Alinsky school of social disruption.
Any action against the statists will result in overwhelming gummint reaction against anyone standing out, or even just perceived as a threat. Why else has .gov built up so many para-military units within the executive branch, plus co-opted every damn police force in this country?
Either we go into the dark with a whimper (likely), or it will be ugly in a way no one born and raised in this country has even dreamed of, let alone lived through (possible).
Victory is not assured either, but our ultimate destruction as a country and as a force for freedom is assured as we are being destroyed as we watch. There really is little option left if the elections are co-opted with statists.
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Pray Nov. gets here, before Thomas Sowell's predictions and an entire host of others, even Democrats predictions come true.
The reset button needs a big hit.
Vote the Bums Out!!!!.
and pray, The Tree Of Liberty can wait, a just a bit longer.
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Great video, I'll make it viral on my contact list.
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We still have the Ballot Box. Then the Jury Box. Before we have to open the Ammuntion Box.
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We still have the Ballot Box. Then the Jury Box. Before we have to open the Ammuntion Box.
The problem is that the ballot box is being stuffed, (ACORN, SEIU) and the jury box is stacked. (Look at the recent SCOTUS nominies, not to mention the 9th circus) Elections are being rigged, without even an attempt to hide it. Our courts have been overrun with leftist activist judges, making law from the bench. Our Representatives are ignoring us, and some are outright mocking us. We are getting to a point where about all we have left is the ammo box. Anyone else wonder why there is such a push to ban guns by any means, including circumventing the constitution, by signing the U.N. treaty?
I believe that the mid term elections will determine the fate of our nation. I believe that if there is any hint of election tampering, and we see the same faces emerge from the election, it will be the catalyst for armed insurrection. I really hope I'm wrong, but it is what I believe.
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TFR is exercising his right to wishful thinking.
I agree with JC5123. We have more reason for insurrection now than we did in 1776.
Az. stands a good chance of playing the role of Fort Sumter, over the immigration debate.
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TFR is exercising his right to wishful thinking.
I agree with JC5123. We have more reason for insurrection now than we did in 1776.
Az. stands a good chance of playing the role of Fort Sumter, over the immigration debate.
Normally, Tom, you are correct. In this case, however, you are WAY more than simply "correct", you're psychic!!! It breaks my heart that the country I love may have to be torn down in order to be rebuilt in the image that it's founders intended.
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Look at it this way, Mass, SC, Az ? Third times the charm ?
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TFR is exercising his right to wishful thinking.
I agree with JC5123. We have more reason for insurrection now than we did in 1776.
Az. stands a good chance of playing the role of Fort Sumter, over the immigration debate.
I agree too. I hope we're wrong and it won't be as bad as we fear.
This is the hill I'm willing to die on.
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I agree too. I hope we're wrong and it won't be as bad as we fear.
This is the hill I'm willing to die on.
Well, its kind of a low hill. Look, you guys can hole up in your own private Alamo if you want to. Who am I to say you nay? But read a little history first. We have been through far worse times than these. The Alien and Sedition Act? The Sedition Act of 1918? The Red Scares? The New England seccesion plot during the War of 1812? Teapot Dome? The imposition of Jim Crow after the Hays-Tilden "election" of 1877? The Coal Wars? I mean c'mon folks! Buy a bit of perspective here. All of these settled by law and elections. Yeah, it was slow and frustrating, but a hell of a lot better than than 1861. Az. as Fort Sumpter? Remember how well that one worked out. Quit bitchin' start organizing. Since when did ACORN become unbeatable? All they are is organized. Buy a copy of Rules For Radicals, read, and implement. It ain't that hard. Come Monday, God willing and the creek don't rise, the "liberal activist Court" will incorporate the 2A. Take a few deep calming breaths.
FQ13
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That's the problem with being "cosmopolitan" and a faux "libertarian", FQ, everything appears normal or at least relative.
You note individual, specific laws passed in response to a single stimulus. What we have here is the entire gummintal structure working to destroy our rights and freedoms, bankrupt this country through excessive taxes and a dead-wrong attempt to re-distribute some wealth (people like Soros and those mandating these changes are exempt of course), ignoring the US Constitution or working actively to subvert it.
In case you missed it, the game is up.
"Our" kongress willing to take any and all power for the federal gummint at the expense of a free market, we have a POTUS who is more than willing to rule through EO in those rare cases when kongress won't do his bidding. We have an oil spill that is polluting hundreds of thousands of square miles, and the response from DC is virtually non-existent. The USCG (under bho's direction) has flat out rejected help from most quarters, bho himself has refused to waive the Jones Act, skimmers that are available have not been deployed to the places they can be used, bacterial compounds that actually consume the oil have not been deployed, etc. etc. etc.
More weak willful "leadership" from bho. Or is it generating yet another "crisis" that can be taken advantage of by a willing fed gummint? More laws, more regulations, more gummint oversight - less freedom, less exercise of rights, less ability to act like the free men our Founders envisaged.
What would your historical sources think of the fed gummint now having a larger payroll than all private industry in this country combined?
All this is just the tip of the iceberg. Where - or when - do you draw the line at an exploding and abusive fed gummint?
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Does anyone know where I might find a transcript/Cliffs Notes of that? I don't seem to be able to shovel enough coal into the old 'puter to download anything but script.
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FQ, We are looking at this from a historically documented point of view.
You on the other hand are looking at it through the perspective of Locke, Hume, and several other stay at home, "intellectuals" who never actually did anything more than opine on unverified news stories.
Here's another news flash for you, Common Sense contains some good ideas, but it was written purely as a propaganda piece, to inflame the Colonies. The "state of natural liberty" was considered shallow and unworkable, even at the time of publication
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More weak willful "leadership" from bho. Or is it generating yet another "crisis" that can be taken advantage of by a willing fed gummint? More laws, more regulations, more gummint oversight - less freedom, less exercise of rights, less ability to act like the free men our Founders envisaged.
Whack, said the hammer to the nail.