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Title: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: Hazcat on May 06, 2011, 08:15:38 PM
Me, HazJr, Deepwater and a friend.   I will be an 'observer' so we are getting three pigs.  YUMMM< YUMM!  pix to follow
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11)
Post by: philw on May 06, 2011, 08:17:25 PM
 ;D ;D

have fun,

and get LOTS of picks 

only 3...    got to get more than that. 
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11)
Post by: Timothy on May 06, 2011, 08:19:14 PM
Enjoy the day Haz....

Best.
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11)
Post by: Hazcat on May 06, 2011, 08:20:29 PM
;D ;D

have fun,

and get LOTS of picks 

only 3...    got to get more than that.
 

Pigs...pix...different!   Whot the heck is wrong with ya Aussies?


;)



;D
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11)
Post by: sledgemeister on May 06, 2011, 08:32:06 PM
Pigs...pix...different!   Whot the heck is wrong with ya Aussies?


;)



;D


Oi now, hes a South Australian not a normal Aussie mate! they have webbed toes and stuff

PS
good luck on the pigs!
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11)
Post by: philw on May 07, 2011, 03:05:18 AM

now where is that up yours icon

I was meaning photos    Dam Auto correct



Oi now, hes a South Australian not a normal Aussie mate! they have webbed toes and stuff

PS
good luck on the pigs!



how is that scar going from having the other head removed,

also have you got your paperwork to get to Australia at the end of the month for the WBB11 
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11)
Post by: deepwater on May 07, 2011, 08:49:21 PM
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv333/darrinheard/DSC07272.jpg)
Haz Junior killed his with a bayonet.
got mine with the Rossi Model 92 in .357 mag
and our friend got his with Haz's Rossi .45/454
fun day and plenty of meat taken home.


here's proof of the size of the biggen....  ;D
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv333/darrinheard/DSC07263.jpg)


deepwater

(oh yeah, for the Aussies, that's pounds, not kilos. 2.2 per kilo if you're wonderin')  ;D
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11)
Post by: fullautovalmet76 on May 07, 2011, 08:58:54 PM
Nice work, Haz! I have always wanted to go hog hunting but just haven't gotten around to it. There's a place down in central FL that will take you out on a guided hog hunt, which is probably best for me since I don't know what I'm doing. But ever since TW showed that video of some hunters whacking hogs at night with a infrared scope I have been thinking about getting my Christmas ham from the wild.....  ;D
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11)
Post by: Pathfinder on May 07, 2011, 09:07:22 PM
OK, I gotta ask, how the heck do you kill a wild pig with just a bayonet? ? ? ?  ???
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11)
Post by: deepwater on May 07, 2011, 09:09:59 PM
Quote
OK, I gotta ask, how the heck do you kill a wild pig with just a bayonet? ? ? ?  Huh?
with the pointy end. duh.


dogs pinned it down (and chewed the ears) while he sneaks in behind and stabs. the pig, not the dogs.
these dogs liked their chew toy pig ears on the hoof.  ;D
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11)
Post by: fightingquaker13 on May 07, 2011, 09:25:45 PM
OK, I gotta ask, how the heck do you kill a wild pig with just a bayonet? ? ? ?  ???
Ya screwed up Haz! That boy is doomed to the Marines. The army prefers people who SHOOT dangerous game. Its on the questionaire. ;D
FQ13
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11)
Post by: sledgemeister on May 07, 2011, 10:39:56 PM
OK, I gotta ask, how the heck do you kill a wild pig with just a bayonet? ? ? ?  ???

The slang name for a bayo is "pig sticker"

through the chest and into the heart!
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11)
Post by: fightingquaker13 on May 07, 2011, 11:13:41 PM
The slang name for a bayo is "pig sticker"

through the chest and into the heart!
Actually, under the ribs and into the heart. The dogs keep the front end busy, you grab the hind legs off the ground then stick at about a 45 degree angle. (yes I've done this before, but just once. It's like wading into a muddy 5 dog fight with a pissed off wild pig in the middle. A little more excitment than I like in my day. ::)  ;)).
FQ13 who wonders how big a life insurance policy Haz has taken out on the boy. ;D
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11)
Post by: kmitch200 on May 08, 2011, 01:39:00 AM
FQ13 who wonders how big a life insurance policy Haz has taken out on the boy. ;D

HUGE! (or soon will be)  ;D

Sounds like you guys had a hell of a good time!
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11)
Post by: philw on May 08, 2011, 05:01:05 AM
well done fellas,   

Haz Jr.   love the pig sticker :D

135kg's of bacon....  nice work Deepwater   ;D


looks like a nice day out.   where there many out there?
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11)
Post by: Ichiban on May 08, 2011, 06:03:28 AM
Damn, Haz, you really need to teach that boy how to use a gun.  This hand to hand combat with hogs is getting to be routine.   :o
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=8844.0 (http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=8844.0)

Nice hunt.
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11)
Post by: Hazcat on May 08, 2011, 07:00:49 AM
HazJr figures shootin them to be too easy and boAring. ;)

That one Deepwater got is (was) a MONSTER!  Had to winch it up into the truck and the winch was groaning.

They are undergoing the on ice with vinegar treatment right now and we will do the finish butchering on Tuesday (lot of work).

The weather was perfect, cool and light breeze as compared to when we usually go in Sept (HOT and muggy swarming with mosquitoes!)

BUT on the drive home we had to stop twice and clean the 'love bugs' off the windshield so I could see!
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11)
Post by: twyacht on May 08, 2011, 07:21:56 AM
If it wasn't Mother's Day, and having to rotate weekends home from the yob,.....I would have loved to go. :'(

I really need to get in on the next trip....

Congrats!!! Whose that 7 foot tall bald guy????? ;)  Pincus twin? ;D
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11)
Post by: philw on May 08, 2011, 08:13:04 AM
This hand to hand combat with hogs is getting to be routine.   :o
Nice hunt.


hehe it is about being up close and personal ;)
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11)
Post by: Hazcat on May 08, 2011, 11:42:11 AM
well done fellas,   

Haz Jr.   love the pig sticker :D

135kg's of bacon....  nice work Deepwater   ;D


looks like a nice day out.   where there many out there?


We were the only group there.  This was the fourth time at this outfitter for HazJr and I so we know the guide (owner) real well and have a nice relaxed no BS hunt.  Good people and good pigs for a reasonable cost.  50 for the hunt, 100 for the pig and 25 to skin, gut and quarter it.
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11)
Post by: fightingquaker13 on May 08, 2011, 12:07:02 PM
We were the only group there.  This was the fourth time at this outfitter for HazJr and I so we know the guide (owner) real well and have a nice relaxed no BS hunt.  Good people and good pigs for a reasonable cost.  50 for the hunt, 100 for the pig and 25 to skin, gut and quarter it.
Damn! That is a deal. Please post contact info. The old man was talking about a trip and I do have a Brit WWII bayonet........ ;D
FQ13 who will be using the AR or .270. ;)
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11)
Post by: TAB on May 08, 2011, 12:21:04 PM
HazJr figures shootin them to be too easy and boAring. ;)

That one Deepwater got is (was) a MONSTER!  Had to winch it up into the truck and the winch was groaning.

They are undergoing the on ice with vinegar treatment right now and we will do the finish butchering on Tuesday (lot of work).

The weather was perfect, cool and light breeze as compared to when we usually go in Sept (HOT and muggy swarming with mosquitoes!)

BUT on the drive home we had to stop twice and clean the 'love bugs' off the windshield so I could see!

tell him to come out west and spot and stalk... on the central coast they are some mean mofo.  i've got a scar on my leg from one that charged.  2 arrows and 3 30.06 before it stoped.
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11)
Post by: philw on May 08, 2011, 07:41:32 PM
We were the only group there.  This was the fourth time at this outfitter for HazJr and I so we know the guide (owner) real well and have a nice relaxed no BS hunt.  Good people and good pigs for a reasonable cost.  50 for the hunt, 100 for the pig and 25 to skin, gut and quarter it.

ahh that explains only getting 3  ;)

over here it is just shoot as many as you can and if you want the meat then go for it.
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: Hazcat on May 08, 2011, 08:53:48 PM
FQ

http://www.okeechobee-hunting-fishing.com/

Phil,  On private land (farm, etc) you can shoot all ya want here, too.
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: Timothy on May 08, 2011, 09:03:22 PM
In Missouri where my old Navy buddy lives, if you're in the woods and armed, it's a "shoot on sight" regulation for hogs.  They've got a real problem...
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: shooter32 on May 09, 2011, 03:05:07 PM
Freezer full of pork is a good thing, YUMMMM...

Well done guys and thanks for the pics!

No hog huntin here in Colorado.
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: fightingquaker13 on May 09, 2011, 03:11:34 PM
Freezer full of pork is a good thing, YUMMMM...

Well done guys and thanks for the pics!

No hog huntin here in Colorado.
Give it time. We didn't used to have coyotes here either. ;) :P
FQ13
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: Hazcat on May 09, 2011, 03:23:13 PM
Freezer full of pork is a good thing, YUMMMM...

Well done guys and thanks for the pics!

No hog huntin here in Colorado.

Wot FQ said!  "Give it time" (say 6 years at most)
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: shooter32 on May 09, 2011, 03:40:09 PM
Wot FQ said!  "Give it time" (say 6 years at most)

Very true, unfortunately. Pigs are a big problem as you all know, I'll just have to head south or trade ya some elk for some pork...  ;D
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: Hazcat on May 09, 2011, 05:09:22 PM
Elk fer pig...DEAL!!!!!   ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: PegLeg45 on May 09, 2011, 05:31:11 PM
Congrats on the outstanding swine killing!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: Badgersmilk on May 09, 2011, 10:33:23 PM
Congrats on the outstanding swine killing!!!!!!!

+1! 
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: Rob Pincus on May 10, 2011, 12:26:16 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: jaybet on May 10, 2011, 08:05:08 AM
First...Haz, I'm jealous...that looks like a great time. And Jr. is moving right along...rifles, then a hand gun, then the old "up close and personal" touch with the sticker. Nice.

No pig hunting in Colorado? These guys are right...just wait awhile. Hell...pigs are a problem in NJ!!!! They'll get to you.
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: ratcatcher55 on May 10, 2011, 08:28:51 AM
Happiness is a full freezer!

Very nice.
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: shooter32 on May 10, 2011, 02:59:10 PM
Elk fer pig...DEAL!!!!!   ;D  ;D

I will be hunting the second rifle season, opens Oct. 22nd... so if I'm lucky enough to fill my tag I'll send ya some steaks! 
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: fightingquaker13 on May 12, 2011, 01:57:34 PM
Hey Haz
I called that outfitter of yours. They seem pretty solid. You can't beat the price. $50 per head, $100 per hog, and $25 to quarter it. It's a solid deal. Still, their stand hunting is over feeders which I generally have issues with. That's not so much true for hogs as they are pests and the ranch wants them gone, and just wants to make a buck out of pest control, so I can deal. The question I had was about the dog and buggy hunts. I'm a bird dog guy and love to watch a dog work. They said they can use baying dogs for rifles or a catch dog for knives (guess which way I'm leaning ;D). I think it would be cool to watch the show and learn something even if I don't make a habit of it. So, the question is this. What kind of ranges are we talking about? Is there a clear field of fire or snap shots? The question is whether to bring the AR or the bolt .270 (bayonet in reserve of course). Your input is appreciated.
FQ13 who is dreaming of a wild boar ragu, ribs and a slow smoked pork butt. ;D
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: Hazcat on May 12, 2011, 02:12:11 PM
If ya don't get a hog in the stand (25-30 yards) then they pick ya up in the buggy with the dogs and go find a pig for ya.  The ya shoot 'point blank' range.

Did you ask about using a .270?  They may say it is too small.  I'm 'pretty sure' that they won't let ya shoot with a .223.
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: fightingquaker13 on May 12, 2011, 02:21:18 PM
If ya don't get a hog in the stand (25-30 yards) then they pick ya up in the buggy with the dogs and go find a pig for ya.  The ya shoot 'point blank' range.

Did you ask about using a .270?  They may say it is too small.  I'm 'pretty sure' that they won't let ya shoot with a .223.

Figured on the AR. But seriously, a .270? 130 grains of JSP will take down an elk. I've killed plenty of deer and pigs with that gun and load, and rarely had to shoot twice. One in the boiler room and its game over. Hey, if it's good enogh for Jack O'Conner, it's good enough for me. ;) Though I will admit that that the only reason its its not a 30-06 is that the gunpusher had the LH Ruger .270s in stock and would have to order the '06. He boresighted it for free for me and I said "sold". ;D
FQ13
PS How much did you tip these guys? I don't often hire guides and I'm always a bit unsure about what a fair tip is.
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: ratcatcher55 on May 12, 2011, 03:19:50 PM
Figured on the AR. But seriously, a .270? 130 grains of JSP will take down an elk. I've killed plenty of deer and pigs with that gun and load, and rarely had to shoot twice. One in the boiler room and its game over. Hey, if it's good enogh for Jack O'Conner, it's good enough for me. ;) Though I will admit that that the only reason its its not a 30-06 is that the gunpusher had the LH Ruger .270s in stock and would have to order the '06. He boresighted it for free for me and I said "sold". ;D
FQ13
PS How much did you tip these guys? I don't often hire guides and I'm always a bit unsure about what a fair tip is.

An elk hasn't been chased all over by dogs and had adrenalin pump through his body.
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: fightingquaker13 on May 12, 2011, 03:35:07 PM
An elk hasn't been chased all over by dogs and had adrenalin pump through his body.

True, but they haven't been shot by the mighty Quaker, who has the reflexes of a jungle cat. One handed, over the shoulder, bank shot off the tree, through one ear and out the other at 300 yards. All the while fending off another with my trusty Sig Mosquito! ;D ;D ;D ;D
FQ13, who probably should have waited for the '06 because 180 grains is bigger than 130 grains every single day. Still, you go with what you have. (Unless Haz wants to lend me that sweet .454 carbine........... ;)).
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: Big Frank on May 12, 2011, 03:37:49 PM
Do you think a sportical with a bayonet on it would work on pigs?
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: fightingquaker13 on May 12, 2011, 03:52:10 PM
Do you think a sportical with a bayonet on it would work on pigs?
Sportical, yes assuming a full mag. A bayonet mounted on the silly plastic thing? Can I have a baseball bat please? ;D
FQ13
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: Hazcat on May 12, 2011, 05:36:05 PM
Figured on the AR. But seriously, a .270? 130 grains of JSP will take down an elk. I've killed plenty of deer and pigs with that gun and load, and rarely had to shoot twice. One in the boiler room and its game over. Hey, if it's good enogh for Jack O'Conner, it's good enough for me. ;) Though I will admit that that the only reason its its not a 30-06 is that the gunpusher had the LH Ruger .270s in stock and would have to order the '06. He boresighted it for free for me and I said "sold". ;D
FQ13
PS How much did you tip these guys? I don't often hire guides and I'm always a bit unsure about what a fair tip is.

I usually buy a six pack for em while their skinnin, and such (yes I drink one myself) and then give em a twenty.

These pigs is TOUGH!  Please ask them about the 270.  They love my lever guns and serious sidearms.
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: Hazcat on May 12, 2011, 05:38:50 PM
Do you think a sportical with a bayonet on it would work on pigs?

Sportical being .223?  If so I would NOT try it.  Ifen' yer gonna stick him get a good knife (K-Bar fighting knife or better) and just take a decent side arm with ya.
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: fightingquaker13 on May 12, 2011, 05:46:45 PM
You think there is that much difference between an '06 and a .270 Haz? You've been playing this game longer than I have. I have killed a few, though generally while feeding and they never knew I was there. Honestly, I've killed most of my pigs with a bow. Shooting a swine hyped up about a baying dog is a new thing for me. I got rid of my .44 mag model 94 :'(, so the .270 is it. But the '06 and .270 seem ballistically pretty much equivilent. Your thoughts?
FQ13 who does have that 18" Brit Enfield bayonet. ;D
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: Hazcat on May 12, 2011, 05:54:22 PM
FQ the ballistics say there isn't a lot of diff for 150 grain at 100 yards (270 = 2380 fps and 2668 me, 30-06 = 3400 fps and 2824 me) but I am just not SURE they will let you use it.
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: fightingquaker13 on May 12, 2011, 06:07:25 PM
FQ the ballistics say there isn't a lot of diff for 150 grain at 100 yards (270 = 2380 fps and 2668 me, 30-06 = 3400 fps and 2824 me) but I am just not SURE they will let you use it.
Oh, they will. I talked to them. Just wanted your take. Hell, they said I could bring the AR, but reccomended strongly against it and I conccur. Its not enough gun. It does bring back that whole AK vs Ar debate and make you think about Tyler's new rifle in an AR 7.62x39 though. I love my AR, but if it won't stop a 200 pound pig without very precise shot placement or emptying a mag, one does have to wonder.........
FQ13
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: Hazcat on May 12, 2011, 06:15:53 PM
OK then.  My bullet choice would be a semi-jacket soft point of 150 grain or heavier, no lighter.

Also if some one just wants to 'observe' it costs 25.00.
Title: Re: Pig hunting tomorrow! (5/7/11) UPDATED WITH PICS
Post by: tt11758 on May 13, 2011, 03:31:20 PM
True, but they haven't been shot by the mighty Quaker, who has the reflexes of a jungle cat. One handed, over the shoulder, bank shot off the tree, through one ear and out the other at 300 yards. All the while fending off another with my trusty Sig Mosquito! ;D ;D ;D ;D
FQ13, who probably should have waited for the '06 because 180 grains is bigger than 130 grains every single day. Still, you go with what you have. (Unless Haz wants to lend me that sweet .454 carbine........... ;)).


Charlie Sheen much?  LOL