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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: philw on December 03, 2011, 07:01:15 PM
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Didn't someone predict the end of the world in 2012?? Just saying ;)
So where are you guys at with the lead up to the election. Who looks like they will be running for the republicans ???
Or too many falling to the lame stream media?
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Romney or Gingrich, hoping Newt will win but the dumbass Paul supporters and their 7th times the charm stupidity will probably skew it to 4 more years of the Kaffir in Chief.
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The solution to that problem is to actually have a good candidate--which the Republicans don't.
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The solution to that problem is to actually have a good candidate--which the Republicans don't.
Neither do the Dems! And any of our one of our candidates is MUCH better than the current Occupier in Chief!
Shoot, I'd take the back-up cameraman at the next debate over Obama!
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The fact of the matter is that just slowing or stopping in place the slide toward a socialist dictatorship is not enough.
It has to be reversed and no elected official will be able to do thatThe cowards in this country should have started killing politicians before they had the nerve to say "You can't have that gun, it looks scary".
Anything after that they deserve.
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As would I, Magoo. However, I'm not sure there's a big difference between Romney and Obama. The only two that come to mind are 1) Obama has a darker tan and 2) Obama actually believes in something (not that it's anything I agree with).
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As would I, Magoo. However, I'm not sure there's a big difference between Romney and Obama. The only two that come to mind are 1) Obama has a darker tan and 2) Obama actually believes in something (not that it's anything I agree with).
Romney has no ties to any of the Alinskiites like BHO, didn't attend the wrong Reverend Wright's church for twenty years, doesn't hate this country, didn't attend madrasas during his formative youth, and I could go on and on. Nuff Mitt is the last guy on our side I would vote for but he is miles ahead of BHO.
Damn Android auto-correct
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Romney is a big govt. anti gun liar.
He's the last possible pick.
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Romney is a big govt. anti gun liar.
He's the last possible pick.
I agree but I think there would be less turnout for Mitt than any of the other Republican Nominees but a long shot!
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I agree but I think there would be less turnout for Mitt than any of the other Republican Nominees but a long shot!
The same is true in reverse. In '08 I and a whole lot of moderates, and or, non GOP koolaid drinkers turned out to vote No and Hell No! We were sick of W., Cheney and the Neo-Cons. We would have (probably did) vote for Donald Duck. Then there was the liberal base, the anti-war real socialists. They thought BO was the Messiah. Guess what? We were both disappointed. As much as you lot try to make BO into the anti-Christ, he isn't. He's just like W. and Carter, a guy who got in over his head and fubared it. The true believers think he sold them out because he wasn't pure enough (sound familiar? ::)). The one's who voted "No" realized we bought a defective product. The true believers are feeling betrayed and are in a snit (again, sound familiar?). The rest of us are just back to choosing between bad and worse. None of us are that motivated. You won't see the massive turnout for BO you did last time, nor will you see the massive influx of small contributions from folks who never opened their wallets before.
Frankly, I see it as a tie between BO and any reasonable GOP candidate, and Romney qualifies. Its going to come down to a game of who makes the last last mistake with a slight edge to the challenger, because no one is exicited about anyone who is running, and everyone is pissed off about the current state of affairs. Just my .02.
FQ13
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The same is true in reverse. In '08 I and a whole lot of moderates, and or, non GOP koolaid drinkers turned out to vote No and Hell No! We were sick of W., Cheney and the Neo-Cons. We would have (probably did) vote for Donald Duck. Then there was the liberal base, the anti-war real socialists. They thought BO was the Messiah. Guess what? We were both disappointed. As much as you lot try to make BO into the anti-Christ, he isn't. He's just like W. and Carter, a guy who got in over his head and fubared it. The true believers think he sold them out because he wasn't pure enough (sound familiar? ::)). The one's who voted "No" realized we bought a defective product. The true believers are feeling betrayed and are in a snit (again, sound familiar?). The rest of us are just back to choosing between bad and worse. None of us are that motivated. You won't see the massive turnout for BO you did last time, nor will you see the massive influx of small contributions from folks who never opened their wallets before.
Frankly, I see it as a tie between BO and any reasonable GOP candidate, and Romney qualifies. Its going to come down to a game of who makes the last last mistake with a slight edge to the challenger, because no is exicited about anyone who is running. Just my .02.
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The truth is you were a bunch of stupid people who were either to lazy or stupid to do basic due diligence or else you were idiots who listened to MoveOn.org, Acorn, SEIU and the other Soros front groups.
You voted for a 1/2 term Senator who never committed himself to a position unless it was ultra left and had never actually done anything in his life except associate with communist domestic terrorists and black racists.
With a record like that you should not be allowed to vote, never mind expound your "educated" political thoughts.
Comes right down to it, idiots like you aren't worthy of a Republic, you are getting what you deserve.
Unfortunately you are dragging the rest of us down with you.
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The truth is you were a bunch of stupid people who were either to lazy or stupid to do basic due diligence or else you were idiots who listened to MoveOn.org, Acorn, SEIU and the other Soros front groups.
You voted for a 1/2 term Senator who never committed himself to a position unless it was ultra left and had never actually done anything in his life except associate with communist domestic terrorists and black racists.
With a record like that you should not be allowed to vote, never mind expound your "educated" political thoughts.
Meanwhile, back to my point......your thoughts?
FQ13
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The only cure is blood.
The socialists, fools, and drones are to deeply entrenched to be removed by a popularity contest.
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The only cure is blood.
The socialists, fools, and drones are to deeply entrenched to be removed by a popularity contest.
And you think we (whomever "we" are) will win why? Get serious Tom, what do we do in 2012?
FQ13
PS You do realize you have the whole Bin Laden thing going on here right? We got into this mess through several elections. We can, and will get out the same way.
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We got into this mess through several elections. We can, and will get out the same way.
Unfortunately, that is highly unlikely to be the case. Voting for the lessor of two evils retains evil. And, while I believe Tom is correct that the way to save our republic requires blood, I do not believe enough of the sheeple will be willing to do what it will take. Our fellows will stand around with a "let Mikey do it" attitude until it is entirely too late. It may be already, So, we will see a continued descent into tyranny and ultimately into slavery.
History demonstrates the average "lifespan" of a democracy (yes, I know we are republic) tends to be around 200 years. We have beaten the average. If we don't manage to blow ourselves up, we may just p-c ourselves into a caliphate.
Either way, freedom is screwed.
Crusader
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And you think we (whomever "we" are) will win why? Get serious Tom, what do we do in 2012?
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PS You do realize you have the whole Bin Laden Sam Adams / Thomas Paine thing going on here right? We got into this mess through several elections. We can, and will get out the same way.
FIFY
Where did I say that Patriots would win ?
Win or lose a person who will not stand for what they believe deserves what they get.
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I sat in a room last night with 10 people, 7 of which are completely clueless of the condition of this country! Thankfully, my daughter and I can hit what we're aiming at but the others will be a burden on us for their survival.
At least I've convinced those that supported the pupped in the White House to rethink their position in 2012. It remains to be seen if they will do their homework.
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I sat in a room last night with 10 people, 7 of which are completely clueless of the condition of this country! Thankfully, my daughter and I can hit what we're aiming at but the others will be a burden on us for their survival.
At least I've convinced those that supported the pupped in the White House to rethink their position in 2012. It remains to be seen if they will do their homework.
Doubtful, they will either vote for who you say, Romney because he has "nice hair", or Paul and throw the election to BO.
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The only cure is blood.
The socialists, fools, and drones are to deeply entrenched to be removed by a popularity contest.
have you all ready ran out of rope ??
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have you all ready ran out of rope ??
To slow. It would take years to hang all the a holes that need it.
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PRESIDENT Barack Obama's standing in a new Associated Press-GfK poll suggests he could be in jeopardy of losing a re-election bid in November 2012 even as the survey showed that the US public's outlook on the economy appears to be improving.
Entering 2012, Obama's re-election prospects are essentially a 50-50 proposition, according to the poll. It found that most Americans say the president deserves to be voted out of office even though they have concerns about the Republican alternatives.
For the first time since the northern spring, more people said the economy got better in the past month than said it got worse. The president's approval rating on unemployment shifted upwards - from 40 per cent in October to 45 per cent in the latest poll - as the jobless rate fell to 8.6 per cent last month, its lowest level since March 2009.
But Obama's approval rating on his handling of the economy overall remains stagnant: 39 per cent approve and 60 per cent disapprove.
Heading into his re-election campaign, the president faces a conflicted public. It does not support his steering of the economy, the most dominant issue for Americans, or his overhaul of health care, one of his signature accomplishments, but it also is grappling with whether to replace him with Republican contenders Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich.
The poll found Americans were evenly divided over whether they expect Obama to be re-elected next year.
For the first time, the poll found that a majority of adults, 52 per cent, said Obama should be voted out of office while 43 per cent said he deserves another term. The numbers mark a reversal since last May, when 53 per cent said Obama should be re-elected while 43 per cent said he didn't deserve four more years.
Obama's overall job approval stands at a new low, with 44 per cent approving and 54 per cent disapproving. The president's standing among independents is worse: 38 per cent approve while 59 per cent disapprove. Among Democrats, the president holds steady with an approval rating of 78 per cent while only 12 per cent of Republicans approve of the job he's doing.
Despite the soft level of support, many are uncertain whether a Republican president would be a better choice.
Asked whom they would support next November, 47 per cent of adults favoured Obama and 46 per cent Romney, a former Massachusetts governor.
Against Gingrich, the Republican front-runner and former speaker of the US House of Representatives, the president holds a solid advantage, receiving 51 per cent compared with 42 per cent.
The potential match-ups paint a better picture for the president among independents. Obama receives 45 per cent of non-aligned adults compared with 41 per cent for Romney. Against Gingrich, Obama holds a wide lead among independents, with 54 per cent supporting the president and 31 per cent backing the former Georgia congressman.
Another piece of good news for Obama is that people generally like him personally. Obama's personal favourability rating held steady at 53 per cent, with 46 per cent viewing him unfavourably. About three-quarters called him likable.
The economy remains a source of pessimism, although the poll suggests the first positive movement in public opinion on the economy in months. One in five said the economy improved in the past month, double the share saying so in October. Still most expect it to stay the same or get worse.
Despite the high rate of joblessness, the poll found some optimism on the economy. Although 80 per cent described the economy as "poor", respondents describing it "very poor" fell from 43 per cent in October to 34 per cent in the latest poll, the lowest since May. Twenty per cent said the economy got better in the past month while 37 per cent said they expected the economy to improve next year.
Yet plenty of warning signs remain for Obama. Only 26 per cent said the US is headed in the right direction while 70 per cent said the country was moving in the wrong direction.
The Associated Press-GfK poll was conducted on December 8-12 by GfK Roper Public Affairs and Corporate Communications. It involved landline and mobile-phone interviews with 1000 adults nationwide and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus four percentage points.
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/world/barack-obama-re-election-odds-50-50/story-e6frfkyi-1226224478080#ixzz1ghaBUjij
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Basically we my not nominate the best R for the job of President.
But we could pick a roast chicken and do the job of defeating BO in 2012.
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It must be nice to think you have it all sewn up. Personally, I would never underestimate the blundering of the GOP.
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It must be nice to think you have it all sewn up. Personally, I would never underestimate the blundering of the GOP.
Nor the underhandedness of the dems.
At this point I think the Presidential election of 2012 is the Republicans to lose. My fear is that they'll find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and give that arrogant POS another 4 years to finish destroying this country.
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Nor the underhandedness of the dems.
Never underestimate the power of the criminal minds of the Democrat party.
They now have proof that Obama was illegally put on some primary ballets in 2008 and no one will do anything about it!
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Nor the underhandedness of the dems.
At this point I think the Presidential election of 2012 is the Republicans to lose. My fear is that they'll find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and give that arrogant POS another 4 years to finish destroying this country.
I notice that all the local socialists who were Obama fanatics last time around are now registering R to support Ron Paul.
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(http://i.imgur.com/uIw3i.jpg)
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Some of those lines look a bit like the top half of a 3 phrase AC sine wave output.
I guess that means it will be a electrifying and shocking Silly Season?
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and so it FINALY Begins....
http://www.news.com.au/world/romney-wins-iowa-caucuses-by-eight-votes/story-e6frfkyi-1226236773610
FORMER Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney has narrowly won the Iowa caucuses, the Republican Party of Iowa announced today.
Romney triumphed over former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum by a margin of 8 votes out of 122,255 ballots cast.
Romney received 30,015 votes to Santorum's 30,007.
The result was announced by Iowa Republican Party Chairman Matt Strawn.
Romney and Santorum each received 25 percent of the vote. Ron Paul came in third place with 21 per cent and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich finished fourth with 13 per cent.
Texas Governor Rick Perry, meanwhile, said he would return to the Lone Star State to "reassess" his campaign after finishing fifth with 10 per cent of the vote.
Minnesota Representative Michele Bachmann said she would stay in the race despite finishing in sixth place with five per cent.
The Iowa Republican Party said the results would be officially certified within the next two weeks.
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"Romney triumphed over former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum by a margin of 8 votes out of 122,255 ballots cast.
Romney received 30,015 votes to Santorum's 30,007."
8 out of almost 1/8th of a million ?
Oh yeah, a real landslide there. ::)