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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: santahog on October 26, 2012, 06:53:35 AM
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http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/264053-house-dem-admits-to-drawing-a-blank-on-second-amendment
House Dem admits to 'drawing a blank' on Second Amendment
By Pete Kasperowicz - 10/25/12 11:40 AM ET
Rep. Rubén Hinojosa (D-Texas) on Wednesday forgot what the Second Amendment was when asked about it during a debate in McAllen, Texas.
"I'm drawing a blank on the Second Amendment, but I think it's the weapons, isn't it? The NRA?" he said, according to The Monitor.
After recalling what the Second Amendment is — the right to keep and bear arms — he then went on to say he supports efforts to put limits on it, by blocking access to certain guns.
"Why in the hell do we have to have machine guns? And don't touch that, because NRA will come and put you on the black list," he said. "Well, I didn't go up there to be Mr. Popular. I went up there to do the right thing. To help our community. To protect them."
The Monitor quoted Hinojosa's opponent, Republican Dale Brueggemann, as saying he was "a little surprised" that Hinojosa didn't know what the Second Amendment was right away. Hinojosa said he was thrown off by a quick change in topics during the debate.
One member of the audience was quoted as saying it was "scary" when Hinojosa had trouble remembering the Second Amendment. The amendment reads, "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
At the risk of over using this.. It just fits..
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Path, Rastus, I apologize if I offend, but this needs to be said:
JESUSSS CHRIST! GET OFF MY OBSTACLE PYLE! >:(
FQ
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This simply demonstrates how come dems are so wrong.
How can any one do a job with out knowing the basic rules of the job ?
How can any one be dumb enough to vote for this incompetent.
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We still have gun people voting for the Democraps and obama and why would anyone sink that low. Vote him out
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We still have gun people voting for the Democraps and obama and why would anyone sink that low. Vote him out
Dumbasses voting "the man" not the party.
To stupid to understand that if they did not agree with the dem platform they would not be in the dem party.
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Dumbasses voting "the man" not the party.
To stupid to understand that if they did not agree with the dem platform they would not be in the dem party.
AMEN....
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In MI we have a D with a higher grade from the nra running against a R with a lower grade. Vote the man or vote the issue, it's the same thing.
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In MI we have a D with a higher grade from the nra running against a R with a lower grade. Vote the man or vote the issue, it's the same thing.
In that case vote D, if the GOP guy is anti-gun. We need good pro-2A people in both parties. If we let the 2A become partisan we're screwed, as at some point we'll see a repeat of 2008.
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More proof that not everyone should vote. Only responsible adults.
We'd all be better off.
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So tom, who should one vote for if you don't like either party? do you vote for a 3rd party or the "person"? I am very conservative( in just about all things) but I completly disagree with alot of the gops stand( dcm as well)
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So tom, who should one vote for if you don't like either party? do you vote for a 3rd party or the "person"? I am very conservative( in just about all things) but I completly disagree with alot of the gops stand( dcm as well)
Vote R for President and congress , you may not get what you want but if you vote D you are guarunteed to get what you don't want.
in state and local elections it doesn't matter, Ca is totally FUBAR already.
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So tom, who should one vote for if you don't like either party? do you vote for a 3rd party or the "person"? I am very conservative( in just about all things) but I completly disagree with alot of the gops stand( dcm as well)
If you can't vote for someone, at least vote against the liberals-which happens to be the Democrat party. We need to take responsibility for the Repubicans that we, or our brothers in other states, have voted in. It is time to reform the Republican Party from the inside and return it to its conservative roots. Simple but definetly not an easy task, worthwhile tasks seldom are.
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ok so this year I have a choice for congress... one is a lieing scum bag and down right thief, the other is unknown, but wants to raise taxs.
guess which one is from which party?
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Dems ALWAYS want to raise taxes.
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They allow democrats in Texas?
WTF?
Its ne of the places i would like to live if I ever came to the US, well there and Arizona, perhaps Montana (cept it too cold in winter) and
ok maybe Tennessee, after all I am more southern than any of you folk, geographically speaking and I do look good in a set of bib and brace overalls! :D
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Tom the gop wants to raise the taxs.
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Tom the gop wants to raise the taxs.
Considering how broke your state is anybody who gets elected will have no choice but to raise taxes, the Rep is just honest enough to say so.
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Tom the gop wants to raise the taxs.
He's drunk the Koolaid TAB, there's no reasoning with him. GOP=good, Dems=bad, no matter who the candidate is. ;D
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No FQ, since I wasn't programed in a college I think for myself and can see that Dems = Bad, 3rd parties don't win they only take votes from the R's who are the "not Dems" who can win.
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You can lead a RepuBICan to water but you can't make him drink. But you can hold him under until he sees the light ;D
Just have to figure out a way to modify his belief that taxes need to be raised, he's a politician after all and by definition has no moral compunction to stand behind his campaign promises. ;D
And then just make sure they meet a better representative in the next primary besides he can't raise/lower taxes by himself.
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You can lead a RepuBICan to water but you can't make him drink. But you can hold him under until he sees the light ;D
Just have to figure out a way to modify his belief that taxes need to be raised, he's a politician after all and by definition has no moral compunction to stand behind his campaign promises. ;D
And then just make sure they meet a better representative in the next primary besides he can't raise/lower taxes by himself.
The State has a $5 BILLION debt and a large portion of the population is illegal aliens draining the system with out contributing, they have already diverted all their "targeted" revenue, (money meant for veterans goes to the general fund, highway funds from gas taxes are diverted to the general fund etc. ) And ask TAB about the atrocious fee's and licensing costs.
In order to stay solvent the State has no choice but to either cut entitlements or raise taxes.
Which one do YOU think would get passed ?
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Sadly, I agree with Tom here. We, nationally, will have to do both. Raise taxes and cut spending to dig ourselves out of this hole. Don't give me BO here, because it started with Reagan, actually Nixon, but even if we trace it back to FDR it doesn't matter, its not about blame. We're just stuck here, and step one is getting ourselves out of debt. We impose austerity measures on little countries though the World Bank and IMf. Mayybe its time we took some of our medicine, because its not bad medicine, it just tastes foul. Cut spending, raise taxes and get out of debt. Once you're free and clear, don't ever fall into that trap again. Its not news to anyone who has gotten into credit card trouble, it shouldn't be to the people. I'd rather do without than owe money to the Chinese. It will suck in the short run, but I'd as soon not leave my children a mountain of debt.
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Sadly, I agree with Tom here. We, nationally, will have to do both. Raise taxes and cut spending to dig ourselves out of this hole. Don't give me BO here, because it started with Reagan, actually Nixon, but even if we trace it back to FDR it doesn't matter, its not about blame. We're just stuck here, and step one is getting ourselves out of debt. We impose austerity measures on little countries though the World Bank and IMf. Mayybe its time we took some of our medicine, because its not bad medicine, it just tastes foul. Cut spending, raise taxes and get out of debt. Once you're free and clear, don't ever fall into that trap again. Its not news to anyone who has gotten into credit card trouble, it shouldn't be to the people. I'd rather do without than owe money to the Chinese. It will suck in the short run, but I'd as soon not leave my children a mountain of debt.
It does go back to FDR and we can very accurately lay the blame on the misguided fiscal theories pursued by the democratic party based on the equally incorrect theory of the "nanny state".
Also, FQ's reference to Reagan is misleading.
Prior to the Obama administration, which has dispensed with the Constitutionally mandated annual budget, budgets were set, not by the President but by Congress and that body has been controlled by the Dems for decades with the exception of 2 years under Clinton.
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Actuality that would be six years Tom, and the GOP controlled both Houses from 1994-2006. That's twelve years. Since taxing and spending bills come from the GOP controlled House, how is this the Dems fault? I'm making popcorn, so please don't rush to answer. ;D
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Because it started in 1933 From then until today the Republicans have controlled spending through Senate leadership for
18 out of 79 years
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_leaders_of_the_United_States_Senate#List_of_party_leaders
And they have also controlled the House, for a grand total of 12 years since 1931
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Speakers_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives
That's how it's the DEMS fault.
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I don't except the premise that raising taxes raises revenue, it often does the exact opposite. So if we are in debt and we need to raise the amount of money coming into the .gov coffers we need to quit punishing the achievers and just get out of their way while trimming .gov starting with redundant agencies with obsolete missions then slowly start helping people get off .gov assistance and closing the "IN" door to these .gov handouts.
Raising taxes will remove incentive for people at the top, but making everyone pay taxes spreads the load and encourages those at the lower portion to move up the ladder. Everyone pays his/her way-fair and square.
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I think that "TAX THE RICH" folks are more out for "justice" than revenue.
It's inaccurate but it's true... If you think that (Government) money comes from a growing, stable, healthy economy, you're gonna have a different view than one who thinks that it comes from evil-rich people and the evil-bank that Government doesn't control..
A good (proper) education would solve so much...
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I don't except the premise that raising taxes raises revenue, it often does the exact opposite. So if we are in debt and we need to raise the amount of money coming into the .gov coffers we need to quit punishing the achievers and just get out of their way while trimming .gov starting with redundant agencies with obsolete missions then slowly start helping people get off .gov assistance and closing the "IN" door to these .gov handouts.
Raising taxes will remove incentive for people at the top, but making everyone pay taxes spreads the load and encourages those at the lower portion to move up the ladder. Everyone pays his/her way-fair and square.
I agree completely Reagan and Newt proved it a couple times.
Another thing that works great is cutting spending to the bone.
But this is Ca we're talking about :-\
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I agree completely Reagan and Newt proved it a couple times.
Another thing that works great is cutting spending to the bone.
But this is Ca we're talking about :-\
They will either figure it out, collapse, or be propped up by the other 49 states by way of the Federal government. The latter being the most likely in today's political climate. I can already here it, "Kalifornia is too big to fail, we must do something for the children, all those poor/starving/obese kids in Malibu need our help" ::)
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They will either figure it out, collapse, or be propped up by the other 49 states by way of the Federal government. The latter being the most likely in today's political climate. I can already here it, "Kalifornia is too big to fail, we must do something for the children, all those poor/starving/obese/illegal alien kids in Malibu need our help" ::)
Finished it for you.
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"Why in the hell do we have to have machine guns?
I can't believe none of y'all jumped on that little gem.
If you're too freaking stupid to know that machine guns have been all but banned since 1934, you're too freaking stupid to be elected.
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I can't believe none of y'all jumped on that little gem.
I think that one kinda went without having to smell again..
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I can't believe none of y'all jumped on that little gem.
If you're too freaking stupid to know that machine guns have been all but banned since 1934, you're too freaking stupid to be elected.
Because I only got as far as him not being real sure what the 2nd A was and knew he was an idiot.
Of course he's a Dem so it kinda goes with out saying.