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Title: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on January 20, 2018, 12:44:56 PM
I know I've complained about the post office before and here's one reason why.

When I get a package from UPS they send an email telling me where my package is every step of the way. The day before I get it they tell me it will be there the next afternoon from 1-5 P.M. The day it comes they remind me again. In the afternoon the UPS guy puts my package on my back porch as requested, where no one can see it, and rings the bell or knocks on the door. They send me a final email saying when and where it was delivered.

The U.S. postal service is a much different story. I requested email updates from them too. Tuesday they said my package was on it's way to Flint and should be here Wednesday. Wednesday they said it's on it's way to Flint and should be here Thursday. Thursday they said it was in Detroit and they didn't even guess when it would be here. Friday they said it finally made it to Flint and should be here Saturday. Today, Saturday, they said it was out for delivery and should be here by 8:00 P.M.

I kept looking outside to see if it was here and finally saw some footprints that weren't there this morning. The mailman didn't knock or ring the bell, he just put the package on my front porch where everyone except me could see it, and walked away. I just checked my email again and there's no notice that my package has been delivered. If I wasn't at home and looking out the window every 5 or 10 minutes I wouldn't have any way to know it was there.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Solus on January 20, 2018, 12:54:04 PM
exactly my experience and views, JF...

I resign myself to a time of mystery and uncertainty when something is shipped to me by USPS rather than UPS.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on January 20, 2018, 01:23:50 PM
I forgot to tell you the best (worst) part. It was "PRIORITY MAIL 2-DAY". I placed my order in the afternoon of 1-11-18 which was a Thursday. Instead of shipping it on the weekend they waited until Monday. I assume they did that so the shipping wouldn't take long.  ::)  The postal service had my "2-day" package from Monday afternoon until Saturday afternoon. The cheapest regular shipping from UPS would take 3 days, possibly only 2 if it was shipped early in the morning.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: billt on January 20, 2018, 02:42:55 PM
Whenever I get USPS Priority Mail, I get the same E-Mail with shipping and delivery information, just as I do from UPS or Fed Ex. It also tells me the exact time my package was delivered, so I know when to go to the mailbox. (My mailbox is down at the end of my block).

I actually prefer USPS Priority Mail over either Fed Ex or UPS, because they will deliver on Saturday for no extra charge. And my package is stored in a locked box, not dumped at my doorstep where anyone can see or take it. Saturday is just another day of the week for the US Postal Service. For Fed Ex or UPS you'll pay a premium for Saturday delivery. Or else your package will sit until Monday.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Timothy on January 20, 2018, 03:06:06 PM
Four words:

Gubmint
Union
Incompetent
Complacent
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: PegLeg45 on January 20, 2018, 05:35:09 PM
Don't get me started on the USPS.....in just the last few years: lost, mis-delivered, stolen, damaged....
heck, where would I start?
I was fairly pro-post office, until our long-time carrier retired a few years ago. In the time since he retired, there has been at least a half-dozen carriers on our route and none of them could count their butt cheeks and come up with the same number twice. That's why I stopped mailing 90% of bills and went to online payments for most everything.

Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on January 20, 2018, 07:52:06 PM
I just checked my email again and they still haven't let me know that they delivered it, but it's only been about 7 hours.  ::)  With UPS, during the brief moment I bring my package into the house and check my email, it's already updated. The USPS did send me a notice about another package that shipped today. They said it should be here by 8:00 P.M. Monday but I know that's not going to happen. If it gets here before Thursday I'll be both happy and truly surprised.

Some books I ordered from barnesandnoble.com came in a week or so ago. UPS shipped them halfway across the country in 1 or 2 days IIRC. But instead of bringing the package to me they gave it to the post office for them to deliver. It went from I don't recall where, to Flint, to the main P.O. downtown. Did they deliver it to me the next day? Hell no! They sent it to Detroit for some unfathomable reason.  ???  The P.O. in Detroit sent it back to Flint. Eventually I did get it, but it took 5 days altogether to go from the P.O. to my house, which Google maps says is a 3.4 mile drive away. UPS never takes 5 days to make a 10 minute drive. I had other packages of books sent from to the P.O. from UPS and all of them took longer than just shipping the whole way by UPS would have.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: MikeBjerum on January 22, 2018, 06:52:28 AM
One of the interesting things is that when the USPS makes a delivery for UPS they scan the label upon de!ivery, and within 10 minutes UPS emails you that your package was delivered.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Jim Kennedy-ar154me on January 22, 2018, 09:32:48 AM
Don't get me started on the USPS.....in just the last few years: lost, mis-delivered, stolen, damaged....
heck, where would I start?
I was fairly pro-post office, until our long-time carrier retired a few years ago. In the time since he retired, there has been at least a half-dozen carriers on our route and none of them could count their butt cheeks and come up with the same number twice. That's why I stopped mailing 90% of bills and went to online payments for most everything.

I'm going to have to steal that one.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: crusader rabbit on January 22, 2018, 10:12:08 AM
Experience #1.  I mailed a birthday card to my daughter (who lives in Hawaii) two full weeks before her actual birthday.  Of course, there was a check in it since it is cost prohibitive to send an actual gift to an actual island.

She hadn't received it by her birthday.

She still hadn't received it two weeks after her birthday.

I cancelled the check (bank charges $25) and had the bank send a second check from my on-line account. 

The second check arrived in less than a week (now, nearly a full month after her birthday).  The original check arrived three days later.

Experience #2.  Christmas was coming, so I took my sister's gift (she lives near Billt in AZ) to the USPS on about December 11.  I figured that was plenty of time.  Nice USPS employee said that was plenty of time and it would be delivered by December 18.   

Dec. 18 came and went with no package delivered. 

Christmas came and went with no package delivered.

I started thinking about porch pirates, but sister assured me that they have a special keyed bin for all package deliveries.  Postperson puts the package in the bin and leaves a key for said bin in the proper box for the intended recipient.

Package arrived on January 3, 2018.

Paco and his gimpy mule could have walked it from Florida to Arizona in that time.

UPS always does better.  FedEx usually does better.  DHL relies on the USPS for final delivery and is generally better.

Bottom of the barrel is the USPS.  Sometimes, it's all we've got..

Crusader Rabbit
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Solus on January 22, 2018, 10:35:22 AM
In defense of USPS...My junk mail is almost always delivered on time.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Timothy on January 22, 2018, 11:02:36 AM
In defense of USPS...My junk mail is almost always delivered on time.

Pretty much daily!
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: TAB on January 22, 2018, 11:08:20 AM
Just. Fyi, if you fed ex something too some one in a rural area.   USPS does the final delivery, but only after fed ex pays for it.   More then once I have had packages sit at po  for weeks until it's paid or they rts  it.  Turns out fed ex does not pay quickly(any one shocked?)  So if you are sending a package that is time sensitive too the boonies, Don't use fed ex.


Honestly fedup. Is right, they 'll suck.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: MikeBjerum on January 22, 2018, 04:03:16 PM
Just. Fyi, if you fed ex something too some one in a rural area.   USPS does the final delivery, but only after fed ex pays for it.   More then once I have had packages sit at po  for weeks until it's paid or they rts  it.  Turns out fed ex does not pay quickly(any one shocked?)  So if you are sending a package that is time sensitive too the boonies, Don't use fed ex.


Honestly fedup. Is right, they 'll suck.

We almost always get the FedEx truck, but big brown relies on red, white and blue.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Solus on January 22, 2018, 04:41:55 PM
No doubt end delivery depends on proximity of a UPS or FedEx center and the number of deliveries in your area.

If you are a good distance from a center and there is a small number of deliveries, passing the package to USPS is more cost effective than routing a truck and driver for a small number of deliveries.  I imagine package size/weight factors in also.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: PegLeg45 on January 22, 2018, 08:17:23 PM
Don't get me started on FedEx either...... our regional delivery group isn't much better than the USPS. The lazy sob that seems to always have our packages is so sorry, that he'll drive up the driveway and be within 20' of the back deck and will leave the package laying on the ground in the middle of the driveway. I hate when I order something and the only option is FedEx. We ordered a new laptop a couple years ago and the idiot left it in the middle of the driveway 150' from the road and only 30' from the house. The wife was walking across the yard from our son's place and noticed a box laying out there and retrieved it.

One of my all-time USPS deliveries was a metal sign to go in my reloading room. the photos show the large box it was in, plus the sign itself. The sign was in a flat cardboard sleeve, inside a fair-sized box and they still managed to bend it like a taco.

Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on January 23, 2018, 01:30:57 AM
That will turn your Amazon smile upside down. I have a couple of post offices and a FedEx within a few miles of me and UPS is a little farther away. I still drive the extra distance to UPS for nearly all of my shipping. And one time when I ordered something and they told me it's going to be shipped FedEx or U.S. mail I asked if they could ship it UPS. I told them I was willing to pay more for shipping but they wouldn't do it.

I got a big surprise. The mailman was walking by as I pulled into my driveway early in the afternoon. He gave me my mail and said he had a package for me in his truck. He asked if he should leave it on the back porch and I told him yes if he didn't mind. I kept looking and after a while there it was. No knocking on the door or ringing the doorbell, as usual. Then I got an email saying my package was delivered and was at my front door/porch. Then I got an email saying my package was in town. Then I got another one saying it was out for delivery. There were really a lot more than 3 emails, maybe 10 or more altogether. I got 5 identical emails one right after the other.

According to their online tracking the shipping label was created on the 19th and the package was accepted at the post office on the 20th. I still can't believe I got it on the 22nd. This was USPS PRIORITY MAIL. I don't have any clue why I would get priority mail in 2 days but priority 2 day mail took the entire 6 day work week.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Timothy on January 23, 2018, 08:30:14 AM
I’m lucky.  Both my local USPS carrier and the BIG Brown driver live in my hood.

The UPS regular puts everything on my back porch then plays “ding dong ditch it” and our post lady drops stuff on the front stoop that’s mostly covered by overgrown shrubbery.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on January 23, 2018, 01:32:07 PM
Not even my junk mail is delivered on time most weeks. I get a bunch of ads like pizza coupons and grocery store ads, things like that, all in one bunch. It used to come on Monday most of the time. Now it usually shows up on Tuesday or Wednesday.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: PegLeg45 on January 23, 2018, 06:47:54 PM
Here's how ridiculous the USPS has become:
They closed the regional hub in the town 40 miles from me a few years ago. OK, no biggie...except they also stopped the old "local sorting" in the small local offices like the one less than two miles from my house. Before, if I mailed something to an address within 50 miles of my location, it would be delivered the next day unless some odd event prevented that or it was Sunday. Now, everything is routed to the regional hub, so if I send a Christmas card to my neighbor who lives 600 yards away, it has to go to Tallahassee, Florida and back to Ty Ty, Georgia.....which usually takes three or more days.  ::)
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: TAB on January 23, 2018, 06:51:01 PM
He'll it takes 3 days too make it next door too me.   Which is sad, because the local guys walks in the right direction, so he void out the stamp and drop it off, but nope, has too travel 30 miles and back.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on January 31, 2018, 03:55:40 PM
I have 2 packages of books coming. UPS is handing them off to the USPS for final delivery. One arrived at Urbancrest,  OH last Friday. The other one got there Sunday. My expected delivery dates were Wednesday and Thursday. Neither one came today, but the first one made it to Allen Park, MI this afternoon. It took from the 26th to the 31st to move 188 miles. The other one hasn't made it from Ohio to Michigan yet.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on February 01, 2018, 03:24:32 PM
I got one package today and I got an email this afternoon saying the other one was accepted at Allen Park, MI yesterday. No estimated delivery date but it's less than a 3 hour drive away.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on February 05, 2018, 06:57:40 PM
Last week when I said my package is less than a 3 hour drive away, that's round trip. I looked at Google Maps today and it lists 3 routes from 72.8-80.3 miles. The time to drive from there, a little southwest of Detroit, to Flint is 1 hour 11 minutes-1 hour 15 minutes. My package has been there since January 31st. It should have been delivered Thursday, Friday at the latest, but still hasn't budged. I hate the postal service.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on February 06, 2018, 10:58:26 PM
Tomorrow is the expected delivery date for a package that was shipped yesterday, but I'm not getting my hopes up. The smaller one that was shipped January 25th still hasn't made it. It's already been over a week and a half. I emailed Barnes & Noble and asked if I should be talking to the postal service about it or to them. It could be lost forever and need to be replaced.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on February 07, 2018, 02:32:28 PM
Barnes & Noble sent me an email this morning offering to refund my money or ship me a replacement for the books I ordered, my choice. But I waited, and this afternoon I finally got the package that was shipped 2 weeks ago. It's hard to believe it took that long to get here from La Vergne, Tennessee, and a whole week to go the last 80 miles. It's just a bit less than 600 miles altogether.

The package that shipped Monday has been in transit to the post office here, with no updates other than that it's still in transit. There's no telling where it's at right now.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on February 09, 2018, 11:37:00 PM
My PRIORITY MAIL 2-DAY package shipped on Monday got here Friday afternoon. More than 2 days, as always. The expected delivery date was Wednesday. I kept getting emails saying it was in transit but no location stated, just somewhere between the start and finish points. Then after being in transit Tuesday-Thursday they said it was delayed, but they didn't say for how long. The only good thing about it was that it got to the post office here early enough Friday morning to be delivered with the rest of the day's mail.

Now I have a package on the way coming from the post office by way of DHL ECOMMERCE, if they ever get it to the post office. I don't even know what it is but it's not anything I bought. It could be a product sample I'm getting for doing a survey, but so far the post office isn't saying who it is, only that it's coming from Elkridge, MD.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: PegLeg45 on February 10, 2018, 05:20:24 PM
I was standing in line at the post office once and the guy in front of me was wanting to mail a next-day letter which was at a cost of $14. He asked the lady if she could give an estimate of what time the next day it would be delivered.
She said, "Oh, we can't possibly know that, and in fact can't really guarantee that it will get there in one to two days."
He was like, "Really? It's a 'next day air mail letter' and you can't guarantee it to get there tomorrow?"
She said, "That's correct."
He got his money and papers back and said he was heading to the UPS office ten miles away because he knew they guaranteed next-day letters.
I told him that was a wise move, and was probably the same cost.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Solus on February 10, 2018, 05:45:21 PM
Wonder if Trump appointed a successful business owner to run the place if it could be improved...seems like breaking the "entrenched" hierarchy has been working pretty good so far.
 
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: billt on February 10, 2018, 05:46:04 PM
You guys really shouldn't be having all this trouble with knowing when you're getting a USPS delivery. I just ordered a billet stainless steel magazine baseplate for my polished stainless steel CZ-75. I got a notice with a Tracking Number from USPS Priority Mail. I filled out an online form with my first name and E-Mail address, and they will send me E-Mail updates informing me location every step of the way, along with when to expect delivery. That's every bit as good as anything I get from either Fed Ex or UPS.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on February 10, 2018, 06:49:59 PM
You guys really shouldn't be having all this trouble with knowing when you're getting a USPS delivery. I just ordered a billet stainless steel magazine baseplate for my polished stainless steel CZ-75. I got a notice with a Tracking Number from USPS Priority Mail. I filled out an online form with my first name and E-Mail address, and they will send me E-Mail updates informing me location every step of the way, along with when to expect delivery. That's every bit as good as anything I get from either Fed Ex or UPS.

No Bill, we shouldn't be having all this trouble. That's why it pisses me off. I signed up for every email notification available from USPS. Monday they said where my package was leaving from. But Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday they only said it was in transit. The expected delivery day was Wednesday. They told me that Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and even on Thursday. Then they said it was delayed, but didn't say how long, and never updated the delivery date. Friday they told me again that it's in transit, then said it's there and on the way to me. I must have had 2 dozen emails from them for this package, but still didn't have an updated delivery date until it was on the truck and headed to my neighborhood. That's nowhere near as good as UPS.

Now I'm signed up for Informed Delivery from the post office. As your mail is sorted it captures a black and white picture of each letter. Now get I emails telling me what should be in my mailbox that day. Yesterday I got one of the 4 things that I was supposed to get. I'm missing a credit card statement, plan information about my health insurance, and coupons that would probably save me at least a few bucks. Today I was supposed to get one more piece of mail from my health insurance provider, but I didn't get any mail at all. Just in the last 2 days I'm missing 3 very important letters, and some coupons. Now it thinks it's already Sunday and telling me I don't have any mail today.

https://informeddelivery.usps.com/box/pages/intro/start.action

P.S. UPS sends me emails telling me where my packages actually are, instead of just saying they're somewhere between North Carolina and here, or somewhere between New Jersey and here, etc.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Timothy on February 10, 2018, 07:15:04 PM
Sounds to me, Frank, that you have a terrible local postal office in the Flint area.

Ours here ain’t too bad.  I sent something to NH on a Saturday and it arrived the following Monday.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on February 10, 2018, 11:57:56 PM
Sounds to me, Frank, that you have a terrible local postal office in the Flint area.

Ours here ain’t too bad.  I sent something to NH on a Saturday and it arrived the following Monday.

We have several post offices in and around Flint, but I think everything goes to the main post office first. My mail seems to come straight from there. It's where I have to go if I need to pick up a package. The problem with getting my packages lately is getting them to the post office in Flint. And there's no telling where my missing mail is. It could all be in my box Monday. Just because they scanned it doesn't mean they were in the mood to give it to me.

When the post office charges extra for 2-day shipping it may take all week, or even 2 weeks. But if you pay UPS for 2-day shipping it will be there in 2 days. UPS while charging only for regular ground shipping ships all kinds of things halfway across the country in 3 days, almost every time. No wondering for 2 weeks where the heck it is like with me with the post office. If it's shipping from nearby, like from Ohio to Michigan, UPS has gotten my packages here in 2 days with no extra shipping charges. Less than 2 whole days actually, while the post office took a whole week to ship that one package of mine 80 miles.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: billt on February 11, 2018, 04:12:18 AM
P.S. UPS sends me emails telling me where my packages actually are, instead of just saying they're somewhere between North Carolina and here, or somewhere between New Jersey and here, etc.

I just received this from USPS:

"Your item arrived at our SEATTLE WA DISTRIBUTION CENTER ANNEX origin facility on February 10, 2018 at 9:14 pm. The item is currently in transit to the destination. Expected Delivery By 12 Feb By 8:00pm."
 
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on February 13, 2018, 06:53:12 PM
It took DHL from the 9th until today to get my package to the post office, but they got it to me today. USPS did alright, but there were no shipping updates at all for Saturday, Sunday, or Monday. I also got all the mail that was missing the last few days, but that's all I'm getting. The mailman left a note that my mail will be stopped because I haven't shoveled my sidewalk.

I have to call the post office and see when I can pick up my mail since I'm only able to shovel for a moment before it gets too painful to finish. I could see if my ATV will start and plow the sidewalk if it does. But it hurts if I have to pull start it, and if I want to charge the battery I have to leave my back door open far enough to run an extension cord out. I would still have to shovel by hand from the sidewalk to my front porch but that's not too bad.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Solus on February 13, 2018, 07:00:44 PM
The only problem I have with USPS is I don't get delivery status. 

Packages arrive timely, but I cannot track them...

BillT seems tro get the tracking info, but maybe he is getting shopped at a higher class than I get.

Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on February 13, 2018, 07:08:12 PM
If you have an account at usps.com it's easy to ask for notifications, but that doesn't mean you'll get them.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on February 16, 2018, 02:24:03 PM
UPS shipped 2 packages to me Wednesday, one in the wee hours of the morning and one at night, from 2 different cities in New Jersey. They both got here this afternoon, one by way of Illinois and the other through Ohio. One of them took less than 42 hours. Lets see the USPS ship packages that far in 2 days without charging anything above basic shipping prices.

P.S. The UPS guy rang the doorbell to let me know my packages were on the back porch. I heard his truck on the street when he pulled up. I looked out the window and saw the truck, then headed for the door. He was gone before I got the door open.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: billt on February 16, 2018, 03:25:03 PM
Well, I've always been honest with all you guys in the past, so I'm not going to change now. I had my first issue with USPS "2-Day" Priority Mail. It was finally delivered after multiple delays, and 5 days late. What's weird is it was in a large cardboard envelope. And it was in perfect shape. It took 3 days to get from L.A. to Phoenix. (I can drive it in less than 8 hours). It was originally sent from around the Seattle Washington area I believe. (Auburn to be exact).

USPS sent me a total of no less than 11 "updates". Several of them were the same one's sent over and over. But today it finally came up, "Out For Delivery", and then, "Delivered". So I went to the mailbox, and there it was. And for anyone who wonders what it was, it was a Polished Stainless Steel Magazine Baseplate for my Polished Stainless Steel CZ-75. It's just like this one, and looks terrific!

http://www.ppdbillet.com/CZ_75_Base_Plate.htm
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Rastus on February 16, 2018, 05:34:59 PM
Oh heck yeah Bill.  I've got a polished CZ75...man I'm gonna get some of those base plates.

Bill you got some of the prettiest gun doo dads I know of.  I'm impressed...anything else.

DANG YOU BILL.  I BOUGHT 3 OF THEM AND 1 MATTE.  YOU ARE COSTING ME  MONEY.

NOW.  WHERE IN THE HECK DO YOU GET THE GRIPS FROM ? 
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on February 16, 2018, 06:56:34 PM
8)  Those base plates really do look nice.

If I have a choice to get a package in 2 weeks by mail, or 2 days by UPS for the same price, you know which one I prefer and why. UPS has something I just found out about yesterday. If your package is scheduled to go by UPS SurePost to the postal service to deliver, you have the option of paying UPS extra to bring it to you instead. You have to sign up for UPS My Choice to do it, which I did a long time ago. Under Home > Profile > Preferences > UPS My Choice Preferences > Delivery Options > Package Upgrades, your choices are:

1. Automatically upgrade all packages (free for Premium members; { 3.50 USD }for all others)
2. I am not interested in upgrading my packages at this time.
3. Notify me when a package is eligible for upgrade.

It's actually very easy to find it when you fill out your preferences. I don't know how much it costs to be a premium member but I've never paid anything in the time I've had my account.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: billt on February 17, 2018, 04:14:38 AM
Oh heck yeah Bill.  I've got a polished CZ75...man I'm gonna get some of those base plates.

Bill you got some of the prettiest gun doo dads I know of.  I'm impressed...anything else.

DANG YOU BILL.  I BOUGHT 3 OF THEM AND 1 MATTE.  YOU ARE COSTING ME  MONEY.

NOW.  WHERE IN THE HECK DO YOU GET THE GRIPS FROM ? 

Here is where I get all my CZ grips from. They have them for both the Compact, as well as the Full Size Frame. In both full, and half checkered. If they show "Out Of Stock", they usually restock pretty quickly. If you go with the Cocobolo Grips, don't forget the Stainless Steel Hex Grip Screws. They look so much nicer than those Phillips Heads they ship the gun with. These grips ALL fit properly. And they are all finished on the inside as well, so they won't absorb oils and solvents.

And just a reminder. When you get your polished baseplates, he shines them up pretty well. But I took some Flitz Metal Polish and went over mine with a soft Terrycloth rag before I installed it, and it REALLY got super shiny. (If you don't have any Flitz, Mothers Aluminum Polish works well). If you get any polish in the engraving, it washes right off in soapy warm water. It REALLY makes the gun! You'll be happy.

https://czcustom.com/cz-parts-all/grips.html/
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: billt on February 17, 2018, 04:20:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R35KUsEL3ds
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: billt on February 17, 2018, 08:01:38 AM
There are also these. But I can't speak for their quality or fit, as I have never bought from them. But they do have some nice looking stuff.

http://www.ksdgripsusa.com/category/cz-75b-85b
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: billt on February 17, 2018, 08:08:28 AM
....UPS has something I just found out about yesterday. If your package is scheduled to go by UPS SurePost to the postal service to deliver, you have the option of paying UPS extra to bring it to you instead....

I try to avoid "dual deliveries" like "Sure Post". (I can't remember what it was called before that). Because it involves 2 carriers instead of one. To me that doubles the chance of a screw up. As I mentioned before, I used to always get my USPS Priority Mail delivery's in 2 days. 3 max. Plus, they will deliver on Saturday's without any additional charge.

But after this, if I have the choice I'll go UPS or Fed Ex. They are a little bit more expensive, and take longer. But I think there is less of a chance of a screw up, or major delay. And if there is a major issue with a lost or damaged package, I think you have a better chance of getting it resolved with the commercial carriers, than you do the Postal Service.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on February 17, 2018, 03:18:49 PM
I try to avoid "dual deliveries" like "Sure Post". (I can't remember what it was called before that). Because it involves 2 carriers instead of one. To me that doubles the chance of a screw up. As I mentioned before, I used to always get my USPS Priority Mail delivery's in 2 days. 3 max. Plus, they will deliver on Saturday's without any additional charge.

But after this, if I have the choice I'll go UPS or Fed Ex. They are a little bit more expensive, and take longer. But I think there is less of a chance of a screw up, or major delay. And if there is a major issue with a lost or damaged package, I think you have a better chance of getting it resolved with the commercial carriers, than you do the Postal Service.

No one ever gave me a choice of whether I wanted dual delivery services. I agree it's 2 times as many chances for a screw up. Or maybe 100 times as many since it involves the post office. I just pay the shipping and they send it however they want to. I was actually surprised to get books by UPS instead of by mail. But they agreed with me when I told them the mail was way too slow the time it took 2 weeks to get my package. And I've gotten packages by UPS on Saturdays without paying extra shipping, but they weren't guaranteed to come on any certain day.

UPS screwed up one time with one of my packages 30+ years ago. No one was home, so instead of leaving my package by the door or behind the house, they decided to leave it with a neighbor. My next door neighbors on both sides and my neighbors across the street were all gone too. So they left my package with someone I never met 2 houses down on the other side of the street. When I didn't get my package I think I called the business (Sportsman's Guide) first and they told me to call UPS. UPS told me when and where my package was dropped off, but the people in that house already moved out and took my stuff with them. I ended up getting another identical package and UPS had to pay for it.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: billt on February 17, 2018, 03:51:26 PM
........ No one was home, so instead of leaving my package by the door or behind the house, they decided to leave it with a neighbor. My next door neighbors on both sides and my neighbors across the street were all gone too. So they left my package with someone I never met 2 houses down on the other side of the street. When I didn't get my package I think I called the business (Sportsman's Guide) first and they told me to call UPS. UPS told me when and where my package was dropped off, but the people in that house already moved out and took my stuff with them. I ended up getting another identical package and UPS had to pay for it.

That's REALLY bad luck! How long did it take to sort it all out?
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on February 17, 2018, 04:03:26 PM
It didn't take long to get it all sorted out. I told UPS I didn't get my package and soon after they shipped me the replacement. I can't remember how long it took, but it seems like it was only a matter of days before my new box was there. It was only a sleeping bag and a cheap POS butterfly knife so it was no big deal to them. That was the only package for me they ever misplaced. My mail has been lost more times than I can count, but I don't remember if they lost packages too.

It looks like there are 49 UPS shipping places in the city altogether. 40 UPS drop boxes plus 9 other places, including the UPS Customer Center an 8 minute drive away, and The UPS Store that's even closer than that. The nearest drop box is only a mile away. If I need to sign for a package but I'm not home, instead of them trying again the next day, I usually drive out to the UPS customer center to get it. That's where I ship my packages from. Even though the UPS store is only 2.4 miles away it takes 7 minutes to get there. It only takes 1 more minute than that to go 5.1 miles to the customer center.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: alfsauve on February 27, 2018, 09:21:01 PM
All the common carriers and trucking companies have their good days and bad.  Their good drivers and bad.   

That said, here's my latest via UPS.  A high chair for our lighting director (me).  Needless to say it was missing parts.  Office Deport sent a pickup for it, I didn't even have to print a label.  I did put several layers of tape around it to hold the top closed.  New one arrived today with all the pieces.

Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on February 27, 2018, 11:00:35 PM
Geez. I've I don't recall ever having a package from UPS torn up like that. Probably not from the post office either. Sometimes I've had boxes with a hole torn in them, with no damage to the contents. Like someone kicked the box but the hole wasn't actually open, and nothing came out. Sometimes a little worse or with the tape on top torn open, but nothing like that one. BTW, I like getting emails from the post office now with pictures of what's coming each day, but I get things they don't show, or letters come a different day. It seems to work most of the time, and by now I've set my expectations pretty low for the post office, so I'm okay with it.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: billt on March 03, 2018, 01:44:11 PM
Well, I just had good luck with another USPS Priority Mail Delivery. I ordered some magazines from Greg Cote out of Jacksonville, Florida. He shipped them out on the 1st, and they just arrived a few minutes ago. The package was in perfect condition, as were the magazines.

If anyone ever needs magazines, he has a good stock of them at great prices. And his shipping is fast and top notch.

http://www.gregcotellc.com/cart/index.php

Just to compare, I ordered 12, 1911 .45 magazines from Sarco out of Pennsylvania at the same time I ordered from Greg Cote, and they haven't even shipped yet.   
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on March 03, 2018, 03:49:29 PM
He has Para Ordnance P14 14 round .45 ACP magazines made by MEC-GAR for $24.95. I haven't bought any of those for a long time but it sounds like a reasonable price. He says they're also great in the Springfield 1911A2 double stack and the Rock Island Armory .45 1911 A2 Hi Cap wide body. I knew the RIA mags looked just like Para Ordnance mags but didn't know if they were interchangeable.

I wonder how long it would take to get a package by USPS if it wasn't Priority Mail?
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Rastus on March 04, 2018, 06:50:31 AM
Cool source Bill.  I just bought a Canik last week and it came with only two mags.  I looked a few places but I could find no sources.  They have them for $30....cool beans dude. 

So Bill what other SECRET sources like this for firearms and parts do you have??

Hhmmm?


Especially since I got some of those cool CZ mag floor plates.  You are hitting it out of the park.

And oh, about UPS.  I try to avoid business with them and use FEDEX and whoever else when I can.  I bought a "vintage" CB for $600 (today's $$$$'s) a some years ago.  One of the idiots in OKC ran over the radio and destroyed it.  The mic was worth $5 and the side speaker was worth $25 so...about $30 was for the supporting mic and exterior speaker...guess what.  I got 1/3 of the insured value only. 

What jerks.  I have a long memory and I ship a lot of stuff or have a lot shipped to me for business....used to anyway.  I've probably diverted $6,000-$9,000 in shipping to other vendors in the intervening years....and intend to continue doing so until such time as I get a check for my loss from UPS.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: billt on March 04, 2018, 06:54:52 AM
He has Para Ordnance P14 14 round .45 ACP magazines made by MEC-GAR for $24.95. I haven't bought any of those for a long time but it sounds like a reasonable price. He says they're also great in the Springfield 1911A2 double stack and the Rock Island Armory .45 1911 A2 Hi Cap wide body. I knew the RIA mags looked just like Para Ordnance mags but didn't know if they were interchangeable.

I wonder how long it would take to get a package by USPS if it wasn't Priority Mail?

He's not the absolute cheapest. But he is very reasonable. And he has most all of what he advertises in stock. He ships within hours, and you get E-Mails and tracking numbers on your order all the way until delivery. I like that. I'll gladly pay a few bucks more for that kind of service.

I think both First Class and Priority Mail go by air from major destination to major destination. In this case it was Jacksonville, Florida to Phoenix, Arizona. After that I think the Priority Mail shipments are expedited a little quicker to the local post office, and processed through to actual delivery faster. As opposed to First Class that might absorb an extra day or two going through that process. Especially during busy times.

I think my last Priority Mail package somehow got lost in the shuffle, and ended up going by ground all the way. Because there is no way it would take 3 days to travel from L.A. to Phoenix. Unless they were shipping it via. 20 Mule Team along with the Borax.

Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: billt on March 04, 2018, 07:26:58 AM
Cool source Bill.  I just bought a Canik last week and it came with only two mags.  I looked a few places but I could find no sources.  They have them for $30....cool beans dude. 

So Bill what other SECRET sources like this for firearms and parts do you have??

Hhmmm?


Especially since I got some of those cool CZ mag floor plates.  You are hitting it out of the park.

Well, as I mentioned I ordered some 1911, .45 ACP magazines from Sarco. They've been advertising these heavily in Shotgun News, and they go for only $7.90 each if you buy 10 or more. So I've got a dozen of them coming. I'll keep you informed as to how long it takes to get them, and how well they work. I'm sure they'll be fine for range magazines. As I mentioned, I ordered them at the same time I ordered the magazines from Greg Cote. And those are already in my guns, and Sarco has yet to ship them. So I'll let you know how it goes.

http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/191145automagazine.aspx
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on March 04, 2018, 01:08:23 PM
I was very surprised to see this listed at Sarco: M8 .50cal Spotting Rifle 20 round magazine. The M8C .50 caliber spotting rifle was attached to an M40 106mm recoilless rifle. Here's a description of the ammo it used. http://cartridgecollectors.org/cmo/cmo08dec.htm
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Jim Kennedy-ar154me on March 05, 2018, 08:29:42 AM
Well, as I mentioned I ordered some 1911, .45 ACP magazines from Sarco. They've been advertising these heavily in Shotgun News, and they go for only $7.90 each if you buy 10 or more. So I've got a dozen of them coming. I'll keep you informed as to how long it takes to get them, and how well they work. I'm sure they'll be fine for range magazines. As I mentioned, I ordered them at the same time I ordered the magazines from Greg Cote. And those are already in my guns, and Sarco has yet to ship them. So I'll let you know how it goes.

http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/191145automagazine.aspx

You must have bought them all. They are out of stock now!!!!
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: billt on March 05, 2018, 08:31:26 AM
You must have bought them all. They are out of stock now!!!!

I just clicked on the link, and they say, "Currently Available"?
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Jim Kennedy-ar154me on March 05, 2018, 08:32:55 AM
I just clicked on the link, and they say, "Currently Available"?

Wow. I clicked that link within 2 minutes of posting and it showed unavailable. Not kidding. I guess they have fast restock!! :o :o :o
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: billt on March 06, 2018, 05:03:41 AM
You may be right. They may very well be, "Out Of Stock". In spite of the fact they say they're, "Currently Available".  The reason I say that is because I ordered them on the 1st, and they still haven't shipped yet. That, plus the fact they haven't banged my credit card yet for the purchase. So they might be waiting for more.

I really don't like when places do that. They don't want to risk losing the order by displaying, "Out Of Stock". But people aren't stupid. It shouldn't take a week to box up and ship a dozen magazines. Especially when guy's like Greg Cote do it within a couple of hours after receiving your order. I'll wait only because they haven't charged me yet. And also because Sarco produces these magazines themselves on their own tooling. So that being the case, they should become available quickly. We'll see.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: billt on March 06, 2018, 06:46:35 AM
I also just found this on their website at the bottom of the page about their shipping policy.

"PLEASE NOTE:
DUE TO OUR HIGH VOLUME OF ORDERS, OUR SHIPPING TIME IS APPROXIMATELY 7 TO 10 BUSINESS DAYS ON SOME BUT NOT ALL ORDERS ( EXCEPT DURING HOLIDAYS, WHEN SHIPPING TIMES CAN BE CONSIDERABLY LONGER). WE DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO GET ORDERS OUT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. PLEASE DO NOT CONTACT US REGARDING STATUS UNTIL A FULL 10 BUSINESS DAYS HAVE PASSED - THIS WILL ONLY DELAY US IN GETTING ORDERS OUT SOONER. THANK YOU FOR UNDERSTANDING AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE."


http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/shipping-policy.aspx
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: alfsauve on March 06, 2018, 03:21:02 PM
Getting back to UPS vs USPS

I just ordered 10k Federal Primers (Gator supply in Naples) and they came FedEx.

Signature required.


So I go on-line to the FedEx website because they've emailed about the pending delivery and extolled me on all the delivery options available.    Scheduled for a Wednesday.  I won't be home. 

No problem:

Okay what are my options?

No problem for me.  I'm not in a hurry.  The driver, and FedEx, wastes 2 trips to my house because they
won't let me change anything about the delivery on a hazmat.

Next time I will go ahead and have them delivered to work from the get-go.





Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on March 06, 2018, 11:29:29 PM
That's one of the things I really like abut UPS Alf. If they can't deliver something without a signature, I just go to UPS and pick it up. That's if I don't want them to try again the next day.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: alfsauve on March 07, 2018, 04:57:47 AM
FedEx too will hold them at their nearby facility for pickup.  It's just that they waste 3 trips to my house before they do hold them.   
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: billt on March 07, 2018, 05:18:20 AM
It seems that the "Signature Required" is the main stumbling block here. I don't know if that's a Fed Ex requirement, or a requirement from the place you ordered from? Primers are a Haz Mat item, so it sounds like the decision is Fed Ex's.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Jim Kennedy-ar154me on March 07, 2018, 09:26:09 AM
FedEx too will hold them at their nearby facility for pickup.  It's just that they waste 3 trips to my house before they do hold them.

It has been a long while but I thought they used to have a website screen that allowed you to go in and tell them to hold it for you when you wanted?????
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on March 07, 2018, 11:41:27 AM
FedEx too will hold them at their nearby facility for pickup.  It's just that they waste 3 trips to my house before they do hold them.

Can't you just call them up like I do with UPS?
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: alfsauve on March 07, 2018, 04:03:33 PM

This is the whole point.  Neither the web site nor the 1-800 would allow me to make any changes in the delivery.   Quite probably the options were removed by the HazMat designation, but they shouldn't have been.   I wasn't asking for no-signature option or anything dangerous or in violation of their charter.  Just trying to save them wasted trips.

They wouldn't let me change delivery address, or request it be held nor could I say wait until Friday.

I'm not upset, I wasn't in a hurry. They just they screwed themselves and wasted 2 trips.  Had I not been home, 3 trips.  In which case they would have held it at the local warehouse for a week for me to pick up, which is what I wanted to request anyway.


Title: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Timothy on March 31, 2018, 02:49:58 PM
Even UPS has a bad day!!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180331/94f81b44c68cd316b84a8b55343ed31a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180331/678853c5a500e80a3a14543a935d266a.jpg)
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: billt on March 31, 2018, 04:43:25 PM
What is / was it?
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Timothy on March 31, 2018, 05:14:13 PM
It’s a therapeutic pillow that got bashed about in the truck with a new whetstone I bought.  Both items were fine..
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on March 31, 2018, 07:51:25 PM
Wow. I thought it would be something with a bunch of small parts missing.

I'm getting used to Informed Delivery from the post office, but they only let me know when I'm getting letters and cards delivered. And packages. I get emails with pictures of the letters and cards, but never know if there are any magazines, catalogs, ads or coupons. I still have to look in my box on days I don't get an email from them.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on March 31, 2018, 07:52:41 PM
What is / was it?

Squash.   ;D
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Majer on March 31, 2018, 08:44:12 PM
Looks like socks.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on May 14, 2018, 05:24:44 PM
I'm having problems with the postal service again. I'm waiting on a small package that was shipped by UPS to a post office for the rest of the trip. It left Ohio around noon Thursday. I don't know why it wasn't here Saturday or today if it didn't make it Friday. Also, I didn't get an Informed Delivery email from the post office today. I checked online and they said I wasn't getting any mail or packages today. I knew I'd better check anyway, because, well, it is the post office we're talking about. It was no surprise I had a magazine and my weekly bunch of ads in my box. The ads have about 10 pages of flyers in a paper folded in half, a little bigger than a magazine. I believe it's 1/2 newspaper size but don't have one to compare it too. Those ads never scan, and neither do magazines or catalogs. But I had another 5 pieces of mail that should have been scanned, and pictures of each one emailed to me, and also posted to my online account. I checked online again and it still said I was getting zero mail today even after I brought all 7 things in. None of it was mail they said I was supposed to get on an earlier date either. It was all new.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on May 15, 2018, 03:51:54 PM
I finally got my package around noon today. It took five days to get here, and Google Maps shows it as only being a 4 hour drive, including the road construction they're having around that city in Ohio. Maybe when Informed Delivery said I'm not getting any packages today, it didn't count what fits in my mailbox.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Timothy on May 15, 2018, 04:24:27 PM
I’ve been waiting for a new sand wedge from KS since last week.  FedEx has it in OH for the last few days.

I just hope it’s not bent when I finally receive the durn thing!
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on May 15, 2018, 04:34:57 PM
That's a long time to wait for a sandwich. Better call Jimmy John's next time.  ::)
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on May 21, 2018, 05:35:00 PM
Today I got 7 pieces of mail that the post office showed pictures of, after a couple of days without any mail. There was one in there I could do without. I got a letter from the clerk of a U.S. district court somewhere in Detroit, jury department.  >:(  *&^%$#@! I didn't open it yet but I can see my participant # above my name. I hate Detroit and Detroit traffic. I hope I don't get picked. Maybe they already picked me. I just can't open it yet. If I have to serve as a juror, I'll have to drive somewhere around 3 hours every day until the trial is over. !@#$%^&*! I don't ever want to go to Detroit for any reason. Especially not jury duty. I'd rather put myself in the hospital for a week. Emergency room here I come...maybe. ARGGGHHH.
Title: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Timothy on May 21, 2018, 06:08:28 PM
My sandwich arrived safely, un-bent!

LOL
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on May 23, 2018, 12:19:40 AM
The good news is I won't have to drive to Detroit if I'm picked for jury duty. It's the U.S district court downtown in the federal building. I can park in the ramp that has an elevated walkway directly to 2 state district courts, but instead of just walking in there, I'll have to go down to street level and walk a few blocks. In downtown Flint, Michigan, while carrying nothing that could be used as a weapon. But at least it's not Detroit. The bad news is that it's 2 weeks in July and I planned on being gone all month.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on May 29, 2018, 10:48:47 PM
Good news. I got the following message in an email tonight.

Dear ---------------------------,

This letter is to inform you that your request to be disqualified from Jury service in this federal court has been granted. You are not required to report for jury duty.

Sincerely,
-----------------------------
Clerk,U.S. District Court

Drinks are on me tonight! Tap water for everyone! It's about time I got some good news. More good news actually. A few days ago I got a check for $113 as a premium refund on my car insurance. My premium is due in July and I won't make a payment until June at the earliest. And if I paid too much last December why did it take so long to get a refund on it? I don't know what the heck's going on but I'm cashing the check anyway.

But I'm still having problems with the post office. One day Informed Delivery showed me a bunch of mail that was on it's way to me. Four pieces of mail didn't come that day, but one of them did come the next day. They say not to report any mail missing for seven days, but by the time a week was up I couldn't remember which three things never came. I hope they weren't more checks.

Also, a few days ago when I was getting ready to leave I saw a long narrow box leaning against the back of my house next to the porch. I wasn't expecting a package from anyone so I was puzzled. It had my address on it but the name of a neighbor half a block down the street. I haven't talked to anyone other than his son in a long time and wasn't sure he still lived there. I gave it to his son and wife who told me he died the week before. It was an engraved commemorative baseball bat that he ordered. I don't know why the box had my house number on it and not his, but his family has it now. Maybe it will be worth something in the future. I've had a lot of other people's mail delivered to me, and at least one package belonging to someone else delivered to me when the label clearly had their address 2 streets away on it. This was the first package a dead neighbor ever sent me.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on June 16, 2018, 08:43:45 PM
I have a package coming via UPS. Overnight it went from one city in Ohio to another, then another, and another, to a UPS facility here this morning. It came in too late for them to deliver it today but it will be here Monday. Friday to Monday isn't bad for 200 miles. If it was shipped earlier than 8:00 last night I may have had it today. The postal service is never that fast. With any luck my package will be in great shape as usual.

If anyone wants to join me for drinks I have unleaded water now. The lead and iron pipes were replaced with copper right up to the water meter this week. When they drilled from the street to my basement the hole in the wall was right where they said it would be. The whole job was done in one day. I heard jackhammers a little before 7:00 in the morning, after I got 2 hours of sleep, and the holes in my yard and street were filled in that evening. By that time a guy filled the hole around the new pipe with some kind of expanding concrete and plugged the remnant of iron pipe in the floor with it too.

The next day I got a new electric meter that the power company wanted to install in December but my fence was in the way. The guys who put up my privacy fence put the end of it right in front of the meter with a notch cut out to clear the front and bottom. The meter could be read but the front of the box couldn't swing up and open to replace it. If the fence went a foot farther, to the corner of the house instead, I would have had to pay for another 8' section of fence and another pole. I think that's why it doesn't go any farther. I told the power company to give me a few months until I finished physical therapy for my shoulder and I'd take care of it. Last week I marked an arc on my fence with a pencil and piece of string. A coarse-toothed blade in my jigsaw made a quick job of cutting through the 3/4" white cedar. The power company never called me back, so I called them when I was done and they said they'd put the meter in this week.

I've had the water, gas and electric meters all replaced in the last 27 years. I heard that they read the water meter by radio when they drive by. That's better than me reading it every month and a guy going down in my basement to read it once a year to keep me honest. And I didn't have to pay a bunch of money to get a meter installed outside. The gas and electric meters are both smart meters now. Wow. I got way off track. It looks like I'm working on a novel.  :-[
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Rastus on June 17, 2018, 07:09:21 AM
You gonna melt down that discarded lead pipe into boolits?
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on June 17, 2018, 03:15:51 PM
You gonna melt down that discarded lead pipe into boolits?

I can't. They took everything with them except the dirt on the floor. I'll hose it down good one of these days. The lead was all outside anyway.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on June 18, 2018, 08:25:27 PM
Instead of delivering my package today, UPS drove a few miles farther and took it to the post office. >:( It's scheduled for delivery tomorrow. If I'm lucky I'll get it before I go to the doctor. If not, they'll leave it on the front porch where anyone passing by can see it. They like putting packages next to the door where when I look out a window, I'm the only one around who can't see it. They still won't knock or ring the doorbell when they're right there. I'll know the box is there when I get an email telling me it's been delivered.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on June 19, 2018, 09:15:28 PM
My package came while I was at the doctor's office, and it was still sitting there next to the front door when I got home. I used 300 points I accrued at oldtimecandy.com and paid 7 cents plus shipping for my $30.07 order. If you're interested in candy you ate as a kid but haven't seen since, take a look. And if you know of a place that's cheaper let me know.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on November 02, 2018, 03:26:54 PM
I placed orders 2 places one right after the other Wednesday night before my discounts expired. UPS delivered one this afternoon less than 48 hours later. Less than 40 hours later actually. UPS is giving the other one to the USPS and said I should get it next Thursday. UPS alone can get a package here in 2 days, but get the post office involved and it might take 8 days. And this one is from Midway USA who I thought had fast shipping.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: billt on November 02, 2018, 03:43:37 PM
I placed orders 2 places one right after the other Wednesday night before my discounts expired. UPS delivered one this afternoon less than 48 hours later. Less than 40 hours later actually. UPS is giving the other one to the USPS and said I should get it next Thursday. UPS alone can get a package here in 2 days, but get the post office involved and it might take 8 days. And this one is from Midway USA who I thought had fast shipping.

I hate UPS / USPS combined deliveries. You involve 2 outfits that doubles the chance something is going to get screwed up. It used to be called "UPS Basic". Now it's called something else. It's the slowest and the cheapest. I'm waiting on some O-Rings for mounting 1911 grips. They aren't in Phoenix yet, but the USPS Tracking Number say's they'll be here today. I'm not holding my breath.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on November 02, 2018, 05:19:39 PM
UPS Mail Innovations. Innovation was when UPS was started and they delivered packages at a fraction of the speed of the USPS, and they were nearly always intact. My box shows a slight indentation on the bottom from setting atop another box, but otherwise looks like it just came from the box factory. I've had packages delivered by the post office that the product inside of was damaged, if all of it was even in there. You're right Bill that it doubles the chance something is going to get screwed up, but I think it's way more than double. UPS' regular old ground service gets me packages from nearly anywhere in CONUS in 3 days. Sometimes less. The post office is like, yeah we'll get it there in a week or two.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Timothy on November 02, 2018, 06:51:30 PM
How much you think a USPS delivery schmuck is making on Sunday?

At least mine is stacked and quite fetching!
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: PegLeg45 on November 02, 2018, 07:17:24 PM
I hate UPS / USPS combined deliveries. You involve 2 outfits that doubles the chance something is going to get screwed up. It used to be called "UPS Basic". Now it's called something else. It's the slowest and the cheapest. I'm waiting on some O-Rings for mounting 1911 grips. They aren't in Phoenix yet, but the USPS Tracking Number say's they'll be here today. I'm not holding my breath.

In theory, it makes good business sense (make one local stop and get multiple packages into the hands of folks who are going door to door anyway) but in practical application it plainly sucks for the customer because of the weak link: aka the USPS.
What also sucks is more and more online retailers don't offer an option for delivery and we get stuck with UPS and FedEx playing middleman.

As much as I hate the USPS package delivery (especially since they closed the sorting hub in our region and everything goes through Tallahassee, FL) I hate FedEx in our region even more.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on November 02, 2018, 10:27:09 PM
I'm not a FEDEX fan either. I guess it was a couple of years ago that I found out they have a shipping location near me. Google maps says it's a 9 minute drive, the same as the UPS distribution center. But when I bought my Mech-Tech CCU and wanted to get it before I left for a vacation, I had to drive 35 miles to another city to get it. It was over an hour round trip because I couldn't wait for it to go from city to city to city. UPS would have already delivered it before then. And some things I get now go from DHL to the post office to get here. I don't know why a German postal service is involved with it.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on November 03, 2018, 11:02:06 PM
From Wednesday, 10/31 to Saturday, 11/03 my pair of scope rings made it from Missouri to Ohio, almost an 8 hour drive. If it takes until Thursday, 11/08, the estimated delivery date, to get from Ohio to my house in Michigan, nearly a 4 hour drive away, something is seriously wrong. If it gets here Tuesday the postal service can claim they're so good they got it to me 2 days early. But 6 days instead of 8 to cover a distance I could drive in less than 12 hours is nothing to be proud of.

Another thing I don't like about the post office is what happens to my mail when I go on vacation. I put my mail on hold from the day I leave until the day I get back and they deliver it all at once. Or at least they deliver some of it. They must toss a lot of what they consider to be junk mail, because I get half as much mail as when I'm home the while time. And once this summer, when I got my mail it wasn't just wrapped with a big rubber band as usual. They folded my issue of American Rifleman in half and must have run their hand over it several times to get a crease that bad in it. I folded it back the other way and tried to de-crease it, I don't know how many times. I couldn't fold it exactly down the middle of the crease but kept trying. It's readable but has ripples like the surface of a pond running right down the middle of every page. Any other time I've gotten magazines and catalogs while I was gone they were curled into a "U" shape with the rest of the mail inside, all surrounded by a rubber band. Not folded completely flat and stacked up with the rest of the mail before they put a rubber band on. If I threw away my magazines right after I read them instead of keeping them for reference it wouldn't be so bad. I have 6 magazine cases on a shelf that each hold 2 years' issues. Every 2 years I throw away the oldest 24 issues and start filling that case with new issues, so I have 10-12 years' magazines at any given time.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on November 06, 2018, 11:35:46 PM
My package was here early in the afternoon. Man they're good. They got it to me 2 days early. ::)
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on November 07, 2018, 10:25:17 PM
They sent me a confirmation email tonight saying my package has been delivered. Yeah, I know it was. It got here yesterday afternoon, not tonight. ::) Even their email is snail mail.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on January 18, 2019, 10:27:04 PM
My opinion of FedEx hasn't changed, they still suck. My package was accepted at their L.A. facility last Friday and they just left it sitting there until Tuesday before finally shipping it. When they did, they said I would get it today. Then yesterday, when it was already within 72 miles of my house they said I wouldn't get it until tomorrow. 2 more days to go the last 1 hour, 5 minute drive. WHY??? But this morning the post office got it and they delivered it today. It took 7 days to get here when I know UPS would only take 3 or 4 days. If I wasn't sitting in silence within spitting distance of my front door I never would have heard the gentle tap tap tap on the wall next to the doorbell. Such a delicate touch.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: MikeBjerum on January 19, 2019, 05:13:19 PM
I learned something a couple months ago:  Many FedEx trucks you see running around are private contractors.  The vehicles do not belong to FedEx, the drivers are not FedEx employees, and the managers are private businessmen that are not employees of FedEx.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: PegLeg45 on January 21, 2019, 12:44:22 PM
I learned something a couple months ago:  Many FedEx trucks you see running around are private contractors.  The vehicles do not belong to FedEx, the drivers are not FedEx employees, and the managers are private businessmen that are not employees of FedEx.

Yep.

A guy I know lives a couple miles away and he contracts out to FedEx. He either bought or leases one of the smaller style box-trucks and put FedEx decals on the sides. He doesn't do door-to-door deliveries. If I remember correctly from the last time I talked to him he delivers from the area hub to area hub and sometimes picks up from drop-boxes that are scattered around the area.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on January 21, 2019, 10:25:53 PM
No matter who owns the trucks or who drives the trucks, a package shouldn't just sit there from Friday until Tuesday before they put it on one. UPS has never done that to me. When they shipped packages to me from Washington, not far from Vancouver, they covered a greater distance faster. It was an extra 3 hours from here if you drove it, but it only took half a week instead of a whole week.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: PegLeg45 on January 22, 2019, 03:59:25 PM
No matter who owns the trucks or who drives the trucks, a package shouldn't just sit there from Friday until Tuesday before they put it on one. UPS has never done that to me. When they shipped packages to me from Washington, not far from Vancouver, they covered a greater distance faster. It was an extra 3 hours from here if you drove it, but it only took half a week instead of a whole week.

Agree 100%....just making the point that part of the issues may stem from the use of contracted drivers vs full time FedEx employees. Just like the temp workers my old company used...they had no vested interest in the company and it showed in their performance.

Of course, on the FedEx issue, the actual FedEx delivery drivers that have delivered to us over the last ten years leave a lot to be desired. One left a laptop computer laying in the driveway twenty yards from the house and another literally threw a box of fragile (marked as such) sugar flowers over the top rail of the front porch and broke all the contents.

The USPS is as bad when it comes to packages.

If I have any say-so when it comes to shipping options, I always go with UPS.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on February 05, 2019, 03:27:38 PM
Once more UPS does what the post office doesn't. I got a package this afternoon that was shipped yesterday evening. It made the trip from the the business to my house in 1 minute shy of 16 hours. It would have been here sooner but the driver was riding around town with it in the truck almost 6 hours today. That's longer than it took to get from Hodgkins, IL to the local facility. The UPS driver's route doesn't bring him by my house until the afternoon, usually around 3:00-3:30. It was free shipping too. I didn't want to pay extra to get upgraded.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: TAB on July 22, 2021, 02:15:01 PM
fedex strikes again...

So I ordered a class vi. 12k# hitch for my truck.  Fully welded and powder coated... was supposed to arrive last Friday.   It went missing at thier family for a week.  Got here this morning.


It had clearly came out of the box as there was only a few pieces of tape holding the box together after the staples had been ripped out.     This is a 97# chunk of steal.  1/2plate on both sides... well sure enough the powder coating is chipped every where.  No big deal, I can live with that.  Then I notice one of the half inch plates does not look straight.  Its not, look closer and I notice radial cracks in the cornes  of the welds...  needless to say its going back.

But how the hell do you bend 1/2 steel plates and tweak a at least 3 pass stick welded joint to where it causes stress cracks in the corners?   I don't think I could do that with a come along and a 10# hammer, but some how fed ex found away
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Rastus on July 22, 2021, 06:53:17 PM
fedex strikes again...

So I ordered a class vi. 12k# hitch for my truck.  Fully welded and powder coated... was supposed to arrive last Friday.   It went missing at thier family for a week.  Got here this morning.

It had clearly came out of the box as there was only a few pieces of tape holding the box together after the staples had been ripped out.     This is a 97# chunk of steal.  1/2plate on both sides... well sure enough the powder coating is chipped every where.  No big deal, I can live with that.  Then I notice one of the half inch plates does not look straight.  Its not, look closer and I notice radial cracks in the cornes  of the welds...  needless to say its going back.

But how the hell do you bend 1/2 steel plates and tweak a at least 3 pass stick welded joint to where it causes stress cracks in the corners?   I don't think I could do that with a come along and a 10# hammer, but some how fed ex found away

So maybe they saw it and needed it?  Tried to pull it with a tractor? 

I need one of those.  Where did you get it from?
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 22, 2021, 07:48:10 PM
fedex strikes again...

So I ordered a class vi. 12k# hitch for my truck.  Fully welded and powder coated... was supposed to arrive last Friday.   It went missing at thier family for a week.  Got here this morning.


It had clearly came out of the box as there was only a few pieces of tape holding the box together after the staples had been ripped out.     This is a 97# chunk of steal.  1/2plate on both sides... well sure enough the powder coating is chipped every where.  No big deal, I can live with that.  Then I notice one of the half inch plates does not look straight.  Its not, look closer and I notice radial cracks in the cornes  of the welds...  needless to say its going back.

But how the hell do you bend 1/2 steel plates and tweak a at least 3 pass stick welded joint to where it causes stress cracks in the corners?   I don't think I could do that with a come along and a 10# hammer, but some how fed ex found away

Plane, train, or truck crash ?
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: TAB on July 23, 2021, 05:57:59 PM
They just sent me an email asking how was the shipment...


Lol
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: TAB on July 23, 2021, 05:59:22 PM
So maybe they saw it and needed it?  Tried to pull it with a tractor? 

I need one of those.  Where did you get it from?

Amazon actually. Came from a 3rd party out of Georgia
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Timothy on July 23, 2021, 06:04:21 PM
A 90 degree bend on 1/2 HRPO (hot rolled pickled and oiled) takes 33 tons, per linear foot!  Approx..
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: crusader rabbit on August 28, 2021, 05:49:49 AM
As some of you know, my Dad passed a year ago.  He lived in Mesa, AZ in an assisted living facility.  I tell people Covid killed him--not because he had the disease, he didn't.  But Arizona's governor shut everything down.  Dad wasn't allowed to go out of his room.  Communal dining was out.  Visitors were not allowed.  Even my sister, who lived less than two miles away was not allowed to see him.  Dad spent his final year in solitary confinement.  But that is not the point of discussion here.,

Dad left me a bunch of family stuff, like my great grand dad's gold pocket watch with an original Yosemite fob (from when it became a national park) and a collection of pocket knives, and a bunch of other stuff. 

Bunny and I were getting ready to move from Florida to North Carolina and sister in AZ said it might be better to send it to me after we got settled.  Good idea.  No sense in moving it all twice.

In July of this year, Sis packed it all up into a large box and took it to UPS in Tempe.  UPS shows tracking data for it until it got to Goodyear--then it disappeared.  No tracking information after it got to Goodyear.  It's now officially lost and UPS is getting ready to pay the claim on my package.

But, how do you pay the claim on a lifetime of memories and family history?

USPS has temporarily lost letters for me, but they have always turned up.  UPS has disappointed me beyond belief. 
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: PegLeg45 on August 28, 2021, 03:41:29 PM
But, how do you pay the claim on a lifetime of memories and family history?


You can't....and that's the crappy part.....and I truly hate that for you, CR.


I've noticed that the respective shipping outlets across the board have declined in quality of service progressively as the older generation employees retire and newer hires come in with a lower standard of work ethic.

I have noticed particularly with the USPS that thievery is becoming a norm. I mailed a money order inside a card once and the card arrived at the destination opened and the MO was gone. I've mailed, on at least four different occasions, birthday or get well cards and all arrived at the various destinations opened....with a stamp on the front saying "received in this condition." I have received cards in the same manner from others. I figure thieves just assume all manner of cards may have money in them so they get opened. If it was a defective sorting machine it should have been repaired by now.

Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Rastus on August 30, 2021, 06:43:57 AM
Sorry to hear that Rabbit. 
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: JimmerJammer on September 27, 2021, 07:21:38 PM
USPS has never lost a package... just misplaced some for a few weeks for unknown reasons... UPS has actually lost things and never found them
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 28, 2021, 08:03:32 AM
Actually, my best experiences have been with Domino's, and Prime.
Domino's driver got through Police lines of a possible bomb to get my pie to me.
Got her a good tip too.   ;D

And when USPS delivered my prescriptions to the wrong address, the Prime driver knocked on my door when he brought the replacements.
Fed-Ex, and UPS just throw stuff on the porch, including an AR upper, in the rain.   ::)
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: MikeBjerum on September 29, 2021, 05:43:43 PM
Rabbit, Sorry for the loss of your father, and for the loss of lifelong treasures.  Nothing will make up for their loss, and sadly you will just be a claim number to UPS.

When I was in the funeral home we always used USPS.  We started with it, because they are the only ones who will ship cremated remains.  We would use the same tracking level (Registered) for other family valuables.  We never lost anything, and if something would drop off the tracking radar, one phone call, and it would be found quickly.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: PegLeg45 on September 29, 2021, 06:59:20 PM
USPS has never lost a package... just misplaced some for a few weeks for unknown reasons... UPS has actually lost things and never found them


I beg to differ, suh.....the USPS has lost (and never found) and damaged far too many of my packages over the last dozen years.....also had several money orders removed from cards (cards showed up with the envelopes open and MO missing). This younger generation doesn't have the same work ethic as older ones and in certain rural areas the USPS is using contract delivery providers who are not under USPS employment. We sometimes have three or more different carriers per week (usually not the same one two days in a row and if it's raining they might not deliver at all that day).

Annnd, it's about to get worse:

USPS to slow down some mail delivery starting Friday

https://www.azfamily.com/news/us_world_news/usps-to-slow-down-some-mail-delivery-starting-friday/article_cafecd2b-9ddf-5e78-b6d7-0cbf337856e8.html?fbclid=IwAR1-D4oPKbcC3NYPEJjJQlniBLz4T6GGKiapLQvJ1UJP78mI8OFmwhNknUc
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: alfsauve on September 30, 2021, 10:44:39 AM
Of course what does it matter if it gets there?  Some recipients warehouse it.

Don't know if the rest of the US caught this story about months old mail on pallets at the VA.  Unprocessed.

https://www.ajc.com/news/months-old-mail-piles-up-in-atlanta-veterans-affairs-hospital-basement/FMKJRDHTRFDYRDBKZ5CPW4BSVY/

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Veterans have complained for years that mail sent to the Atlanta VA Health Care System hospital often disappears, delaying or preventing medical treatment.

Two Veterans Affairs workers at the Decatur hospital discovered at least one reason that may have been happening: ten pallets of months-old mail sitting unopened in the warehouse basement.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 30, 2021, 01:26:12 PM
Pallets ?
How many damned letters do they get ?!?
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: PegLeg45 on September 30, 2021, 02:18:05 PM
And then there was the postal worker in Pennsylvania that was storing undelivered mail in her house.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: MikeBjerum on September 30, 2021, 06:52:27 PM

I beg to differ, suh.....the USPS has lost (and never found) and damaged far too many of my packages over the last dozen years.....also had several money orders removed from cards (cards showed up with the envelopes open and MO missing). This younger generation doesn't have the same work ethic as older ones and in certain rural areas the USPS is using contract delivery providers who are not under USPS employment. We sometimes have three or more different carriers per week (usually not the same one two days in a row and if it's raining they might not deliver at all that day).

Annnd, it's about to get worse:

USPS to slow down some mail delivery starting Friday

https://www.azfamily.com/news/us_world_news/usps-to-slow-down-some-mail-delivery-starting-friday/article_cafecd2b-9ddf-5e78-b6d7-0cbf337856e8.html?fbclid=IwAR1-D4oPKbcC3NYPEJjJQlniBLz4T6GGKiapLQvJ1UJP78mI8OFmwhNknUc

You edited out the key part of my post:  "Registered".  Registered is handled with high security, and even kept in locked cages at times.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: PegLeg45 on October 01, 2021, 08:38:33 AM
You edited out the key part of my post:  "Registered".  Registered is handled with high security, and even kept in locked cages at times.

What in the blue hell are you talking about?
I didn't edit out anything about your post.....I quoted what "JimmerJammer" said above, not yours.

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Quote from: JimmerJammer on 27 September 2021, 20:21:38
USPS has never lost a package... just misplaced some for a few weeks for unknown reasons... UPS has actually lost things and never found them

I was talking about my crap getting lost in transit and never seen again.

Too much embalming fluid fumes??  :) :)
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 01, 2021, 09:47:18 AM

Too much embalming fluid fumes??  :) :)

You're thinking of Nitrous from the drag strip, not formaldehyde (thank God for spellcheck) from the funeral home.
You really want to keep those 2 straight .    ;D
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: alfsauve on October 01, 2021, 03:05:31 PM
Just two of the pallets.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Forum-Photos/i-h9649rr/1/0001db93/L/VA-L.jpg)
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: MikeBjerum on October 01, 2021, 06:42:16 PM
What in the blue hell are you talking about?
I didn't edit out anything about your post.....I quoted what "JimmerJammer" said above, not yours.

I was talking about my crap getting lost in transit and never seen again.

Too much embalming fluid fumes??  :) :)

Sorry,  Looked too much like what I had said.  Sorry  :-\
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Jim Kennedy-ar154me on October 04, 2021, 08:34:40 AM
Just two of the pallets.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Forum-Photos/i-h9649rr/1/0001db93/L/VA-L.jpg)

Your fan mail?
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Rastus on October 08, 2021, 08:47:27 AM
You're thinking of Nitrous from the drag strip, not formaldehyde (thank God for spellcheck) from the funeral home.
You really want to keep those 2 straight .    ;D

Oh no...Mike had long term exposure to embalming fluid.  He probably can't get a skin infection because of it....
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 08, 2021, 10:03:57 AM
 ;D  The bodies only good to 120ish, but the skin could go 200+   ;D

Cue Ricardo Montauban, "Corinthian leather".   ;D
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Jim Kennedy-ar154me on October 11, 2021, 09:14:24 AM
;D  The bodies only good to 120ish, but the skin could go 200+   ;D

Cue Ricardo Montauban, "Corinthian leather".   ;D

Reminds me of the end of "Tie me kangaroo Down".

"Tan me hide when I die Clyde"
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 11, 2021, 03:58:33 PM
ROFL   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RviuTfdfArM
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Jim Kennedy-ar154me on October 12, 2021, 08:12:59 AM
Unfortunately, he was arrested and convicted of child molestation. The recording company disavowed his work. He is a P.O.S. but I still like the song.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-28163593
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: PegLeg45 on October 18, 2021, 06:54:54 PM
Sorry,  Looked too much like what I had said.  Sorry  :-\

Hey, I was just giving you a hard time....like back in the good ol' days......  :) :) :) :)

Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 18, 2021, 07:31:50 PM
Unfortunately, he was arrested and convicted of child molestation. The recording company disavowed his work. He is a P.O.S. but I still like the song.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-28163593

Might explain why he wanted the Roo tied down .
Sick ba#tard.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Jim Kennedy-ar154me on October 19, 2021, 08:56:53 AM
Might explain why he wanted the Roo tied down .
Sick ba#tard.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: TAB on October 26, 2021, 04:20:51 PM
fed ex fucked up again.... $8400 worth in light fixtures.


Been stuck at a intransit loop for days, leaving multiple  times a day...
But it never is on the truck to the local hub and never gets rechecked in.   Naturally thier phones are down, but it still says its on time for the delivery that was supposed  to happen friday.  Which it still shows as eta.

Oh yeah, this is the same depot that bent the half inch steal plate on my trailer hitch.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: billt on October 27, 2021, 12:06:16 AM
fed ex fucked up again.... $8400 worth in light fixtures.


Been stuck at a intransit loop for days, leaving multiple  times a day...
But it never is on the truck to the local hub and never gets rechecked in.   Naturally thier phones are down, but it still says its on time for the delivery that was supposed  to happen friday.  Which it still shows as eta.

Oh yeah, this is the same depot that bent the half inch steal plate on my trailer hitch.

They're really getting bad. And from what I'm hearing, it's only going to get worse from here on out. All 3, (Fed Ex, UPS, and USPS), are suffering from short handedness, along with a lack of drivers.

The wife has been wanting a new double oven, convection electric range. Both Lowe's and Home Depot have stopped taking deposits on them. Because they have no idea when, or even IF they'll get ANY in.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: TAB on October 27, 2021, 03:13:30 AM
Trust  me I know all about appliances  and being a pita to get.   Hell just about every thing is hard to get.   I had to go to 4 different stores to find split key rings for heaven sakes.

I am ordering pallets of stuff now, not because I need them, but because I am not sure if I can get them in the future.  Hence the $8400 of lights.   These are nothing fancy just low profile led.  Each house has 3 or 4  of them.  So i ordered 800 of them( whole sale process can be pretty nuts compared to retail.   I have 4 pallets of garbage disposals in my garage.  They became available, I bought out every home depot in 100 miles.   ;D. They were a few bucks more than the plumbing supply company, but I could get them.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: alfsauve on October 27, 2021, 08:37:51 AM
The appliance shortage has been going on for a while. I ordered a double built-in double oven last year in September.  Promised November delivery.  November came and went. December came and went.  In January I got notice it MIGHT arrive in March.  Cancelled order at that point.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Rastus on October 27, 2021, 10:11:05 AM
I know that construction is up, but we ain't seen nothin' yet on price increases.  At best we're about to see everything go up 10% in price just because companies are trying to get ahead of the Biden/Democrat tax package and the spectre of a 15% international tax on business.  How can people be so stupid to think that 15% is not going to be paid for by them?  And...that because of the additional pain of price they will buy less further torpedoing the economy we all participate in.

Welcome to the 3rd world. 

And if the imbecilian (new word?) capital gains tax on unrealized gains becomes law this will be the good old days. 

Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: TAB on November 03, 2021, 12:19:03 PM
Finally got the pallet of lights from fed up.   What a shock at least half are broken, refused the pallet and claim made.  The vendor is not happy as I bought all they had.  So now not only am I needing to find new lights, they are out a good chunk of cash.   On the plus side they handled things very well and it was not thier fualt.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Roman Jay Almaza on November 23, 2021, 03:06:43 AM
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Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: crusader rabbit on November 23, 2021, 07:22:33 PM
I had a fraudulent credit card charge show up from Portugal.  Since I have never been to Portugal, I knew it wasn't me.

Wells Fargo cancelled the card and expedited a new card to me via FedEx.

FedEx said I don't have an address where I actually live, so they declined to deliver the card.

Wells Fargo cancelled that new card and sent another via USPS. It should arrive within 7 to 10 days.

That was last week.

Today, FedEx knocked on my door with the cancelled card--5 days after the overnight delivery should have happened.  At least they may have actually discovered that my address is real.

Card is, of course, no good since Wells Fargo cancelled it when I reported it hadn't arrived.

FedEx can kiss my keister as I will never use them again.   USPS may be none too good, but at least they can find my address.

Crusader Rabbit
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Rastus on November 24, 2021, 07:49:58 AM
I just had an Amazon order delivered by FedEx.  But wait...while in transit it was damaged and I was refunded.  After several days FedEx said it was delivered...but it was not delivered here...it was to a sorting facility they had. 

What the heck?

By the way wabbit...ever since I stopped using debit/credit cards at restaurants I have not lost a card.  I used to have them replaced at least twice a year due to fraud...now it's been more than a couple of years and no problems.  I'm just sayin'....
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: alfsauve on November 24, 2021, 08:22:45 AM
I quit using credit cards in restaurants over 20 years ago.  Besides keeping nosey people from tracking my eating and drinking habits, the real bonus was the security. 
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 24, 2021, 08:40:04 AM
I had a fraudulent credit card charge show up from Portugal.  Since I have never been to Portugal, I knew it wasn't me.

Wells Fargo cancelled the card and expedited a new card to me via FedEx.

FedEx said I don't have an address where I actually live, so they declined to deliver the card.

Wells Fargo cancelled that new card and sent another via USPS. It should arrive within 7 to 10 days.

That was last week.

Today, FedEx knocked on my door with the cancelled card--5 days after the overnight delivery should have happened.  At least they may have actually discovered that my address is real.

Card is, of course, no good since Wells Fargo cancelled it when I reported it hadn't arrived.

FedEx can kiss my keister as I will never use them again.   USPS may be none too good, but at least they can find my address.

Crusader Rabbit

Should switch to Citizens Bank.
Had some fraudulent charges show up on my debit card, went to Citizens, and they issued me a new card on the spot.
Also reimbursed me.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: billt on November 28, 2021, 11:48:43 PM
I bought a battery jump starter from Wal-Mart on line. I'm supposed to get it tomorrow. It's coming Fed Ex. We'll see what happens. I hope it doesn't end up in Latvia.   :'(

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Gooloo-Powerful-Car-Jump-Starter-4000A-Peak-All-Gas-10-0L-Diesel-Engine-26800-mAh12V-Auto-Battery-Jumper-Booster-USB-Quick-Charge-Type-C-Port-Portabl/613590417?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=101067083&&adid=22222222227388144435&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=480027003834&wl4=aud-1028050746458:pla-1021421863396&wl5=9030350&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=439507606&wl11=online&wl12=613590417&veh=sem&gclid=Cj0KCQiA7oyNBhDiARIsADtGRZaNKT8lRfz4bINzz793QSflRc4RNKOu4O85uR-hWs1vpNO6WPmqzy0aAlZfEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: billt on November 30, 2021, 03:15:11 AM
I got the best one of all. My wife ordered a wide mouthed funnel for cooking, when I ordered my jump starter. (Which is currently in Phoenix, and is supposed to come today). Both have Fed Ex tracking numbers, and were on the same order. The funnel was delivered yesterday, in the mailbox by USPS!

The tracking number for it say's, "Shipment Delayed" on the Fed Ex tracking website. When I put the same tracking number into the USPS tracking website, it say's no such tracking number exists. How can they have something in their system, and that shows it moving through that same system, when they never had the item in their possession?
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: MikeBjerum on November 30, 2021, 04:28:08 AM
I got the best one of all. My wife ordered a wide mouthed funnel for cooking, when I ordered my jump starter. (Which is currently in Phoenix, and is supposed to come today). Both have Fed Ex tracking numbers, and were on the same order. The funnel was delivered yesterday, in the mailbox by USPS!

The tracking number for it say's, "Shipment Delayed" on the Fed Ex tracking website. When I put the same tracking number into the USPS tracking website, it say's no such tracking number exists. How can they have something in their system, and that shows it moving through that same system, when they never had the item in their possession?

UPS and FedEx both use USPS for last mile delivery in many situations.  Once they hand off to USPS they no longer have control over or information concerning the delivery, so they will give a message similar to what you received.  USPS uses a different number for their packages, so the FedEx or UPS numbers mean nothing in their tracking systems.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Rastus on November 30, 2021, 07:19:58 AM
I hate it when they hand off to the Post Office.  Especially if there is a natural disaster...like a hurricane.  I ordered a bunch of supplies for my Mom before Hurricane Ida hit....all of them got lost in the Post Office.  UPS noted them and I was credited before the delivery date but I had to reorder and get them 7-9 days after the hurricane.  Anything going through the Post Office during a natural disaster down south is a lost cause.  I suspect most of the items ended up in postal service worker's family's homes in New Orleans area...it's not like they haven't prosecuted postal workers in New Orleans before.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 30, 2021, 07:51:29 AM
It's on the way.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/hundreds-of-fedex-packages-found-dumped-in-alabama-ditch-now-being-delivered/ar-AAR9YfD?ocid=uxbndlbing
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: alfsauve on November 30, 2021, 09:35:09 AM
Alabama.  See Alabama.  They do things different there.   
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 30, 2021, 11:48:32 AM
Alabama.  See Alabama.  They do things different there.

That's why I was surprised you admitted going to a place where the flag pole and family tree are interchangeable .        ;D

Not so much that they do things different.
It's more because they do them with their cousin.   ;D

I'll be back if I think of any more .    ;D
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: billt on December 01, 2021, 10:29:56 PM
UPS and FedEx both use USPS for last mile delivery in many situations.  Once they hand off to USPS they no longer have control over or information concerning the delivery, so they will give a message similar to what you received.  USPS uses a different number for their packages, so the FedEx or UPS numbers mean nothing in their tracking systems.

It didn't come Smart Post / Sure Post. Even if it did, the tracking information would show the hand off at Lake Havasu City, along with the U.S. Postal Service tracking number, to follow it the rest of the way.

Also, the Postal Service would have then shown it to be, "Delivered". Instead, Fed Ex is still showing it "Delayed".... After I've had the item for over 16 hours. And the Post Office never has, or had a tracking number for it.

And to frost the cake and light the candles, the envelope it came in has "First Class Priority Mail" all over it, along with the postage amount in the upper right hand corner. Fed Ex appears nowhere on the envelope.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS DELIVERED? UNDELIVERABLE AGAIN
Post by: Rastus on December 02, 2021, 11:59:52 AM
I have another undeliverable package because it was damaged.  This time UPS.  I haven't even seen it and they are issuing a refund.  Some reading glasses, several jars of pickles and 3 lbs of coffee.  Hey...I'm about out of coffee dagnabit they messed this order up.   Plus I was out of good pickles (Best Maid hamburger dills).  I can get by I don't need the reading glasses those were extra's to invest in before they inflate the price.

And...I showed delivered the day before yesterday some coax connectors and some toggle switches.  Nyet.  I never received them.  Now I see on Amazon that the coax connectors were delivered in the mailbox yesterday (nyet....we checked late, late yesterday) and the toggle switches are to be delivered today. 
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: tombogan03884 on December 30, 2021, 12:15:50 PM
It's like 9mm vs 45, there actually is no debate.
No matter how messed up UPS, or Fed-Ex may be, they don't deliver bills and flyer's.
USPS loses by default.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: TAB on January 02, 2022, 01:11:53 AM
Ups lost my bow today...  was supposed to be here, but now its aging it is back at the start of its journey...
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: TAB on January 08, 2022, 06:15:35 PM
Ups lost my bow today...  was supposed to be here, but now its aging it is back at the start of its journey...

Got the bow today... the box that should be 7" is about 2 on one side, destroyed the limbs and the riser.  Got intouch with the seller they are making a claim and refunding my $.   Sucks not too many nos  sr6 out there.( like none, this was an oddity that was custom ordered and never picked up)
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Boondr323 on August 15, 2025, 02:52:47 AM
Both are amazing.

www.faitschbrothers.com
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Majer on August 15, 2025, 09:07:31 AM
I ordered a TSA double rifle case that was listed as delivered to a town 260 miles from me by UPS, I contacted the seller and told them I didn't get it and they got back to me the next day saying UPS damaged it during shipping. They refunded my money the next day and have a claim against UPS. How the hell do you damaged a TSA approved hard case that was made to protect long guns during shipping?
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: alfsauve on August 15, 2025, 10:36:04 AM
How the hell do you damaged a TSA approved hard case that was made to protect long guns during shipping?

Talent.  Real Talent. 

Make things idiot proof and the world will just produce better idiots.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on August 15, 2025, 11:34:41 AM
You can make things foolproof, but you can't make them damned foolproof. Some damned fool will always figure out a way to screw things up. They're the ones that could break an anvil with a feather.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on August 15, 2025, 11:55:51 AM
The bottle of pills shipped by USPS from Mesa, AZ last month is still missing. Tomorrow will be 2 weeks since it showed up an hour away from here in Detroit.

My replacement bottle of pills was delivered by UPS today. They were shipped from Phoenix, AZ yesterday.

A lithium ATV battery that was picked up by FedEx in Twinsburg, OH yesterday made it to Saginaw, MI today and will be delivered in late afternoon.

Anyone else notice a pattern here? UPS -- next day delivery. FedEx -- next day delivery. USPS -- no delivery at all, but it's been less than 3 weeks. ::) Sometimes it takes 2-3 months for them to deliver a package, IF it gets here at all. I don't doubt those of you who say you have problems with UPS and FedEx, but in my experience the post office is immanently worse.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: MikeBjerum on August 15, 2025, 04:37:14 PM
Talent.  Real Talent. 

Make things idiot proof and the world will just produce better idiots.

I had a friend who was an electrician, and owned his own company.  He worked hard to grow from zero, to a full-time one-man shop, to eventually working in the office or doing repairs on items customers brought to his shop while his three two-man teams did the major work.  He would see something like this "indestructible case" being damaged, shake his head, and say "you could take a one inch by one inch by one inch cube of pure stainless steel, give it to the public, and they would ruin it the first day."
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: PegLeg45 on August 15, 2025, 06:27:22 PM
I had a friend who was an electrician, and owned his own company.  He worked hard to grow from zero, to a full-time one-man shop, to eventually working in the office or doing repairs on items customers brought to his shop while his three two-man teams did the major work.  He would see something like this "indestructible case" being damaged, shake his head, and say "you could take a one inch by one inch by one inch cube of pure stainless steel, give it to the public, and they would ruin it the first day."
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Our saying about folks at the plant where I worked as, "That idiot could split an anvil with a rubber hammer."
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: TAB on August 16, 2025, 01:00:26 PM
I try to make it so it takes a special kind of idiot to screw things up....


The shit i have to do at work would just make you shake your head.
Title: Re: UPS vs. USPS
Post by: Big Frank on August 16, 2025, 01:59:45 PM
There are people you only have to watch and listen to for a very short time before the thought crosses your mind, you're a special kind of stupid aren't you? I used to work with one of those guys. There was another guy, "Powerhouse Pete" who got a hand amputated in the Small Press department. All he was left with was a small lobster claw for a hand. Both phalanges of his thumb were gone, but surgeons separated the metacarpal bone from the <half of a hand he had left and made a claw out of it. One day Pete was telling me about this guy who was incredibly stupid, so stupid that he made people mad at him all the time. Pete called him stupid, idiot, retard, or whatever, and the idiot said, well at least I wasn't dumb enough to get my hand cut off. Pete was lucky enough to not have a problem with his stump being too sensitive, so he grabbed the retard by his shirt collar with his good hand and beat the crap out of with his stump. I LOL'd when he told me about that. Later on I was working with that dummy and he peed me off so bad I wanted to jump over the conveyor and beat the crap out of him too. And it would have been with a very large fist, not just a piece of a hand. When they implemented the Team Concept at our plant, everyone that worked on that guy's line elected him Team Leader, so he wouldn't be working on the line with them. It takes a special kind of stupid to alienate every single one of your co-workers. Luckily I was on another line and no longer had to deal with him.

And my package still hasn't made any progress in 10 days. The US Postal Service puts the "special" in every delivery. Their new slogan could be: Let us put Special in your delivery!