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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: TAB on March 07, 2009, 10:20:54 PM
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seems to be a pretty good debate on rather or not you should sell your guns.
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Everything I own is for sale for the right price. That being said, I have no intention on selling my guns. Sell most anything else first. But push come to shove, if I had no other choice, I'ld do what I needed to provide for my family.
Brian
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I'll ALWAYS have at least a hand gun, but I buy swap and trade.
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I only sell to upgrade to a better weapon. 8)
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I already sold all of them. ::)
I've sold a few the only one I don't regret selling is the Glock.
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To answer the question.
NO.
Although, I have used a couple to trade up, so to speak. ;)
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Yes I sell them! I mix and match depending on how much change I have around...I tend to sell to finance upgrades. Better to wait and not take the loss, but that's just the facts. I've a couple I won't sell that were gifts, other than holding on to honor the gift they've got a price.
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I'm with you, Rastus. I am going to be selling a couple of safe queens, mainly to finance new (and prior) acquisitions. DRTV will get first shot ( ;D ) before I list them locally.
Guns are tools, except those with history. So yes, I sell, especially to standardize calibers. Although I don't think I will sell my cute little mutant CZ-40P - it just fits my hand so well!
The one I regretted selling most was of all things, a scoped lever-action Marlin 336RC in .30-.30. Almost NIB even though 50 years old. I replaced it with a year-1 rifle for the model.
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I have never sold one. I have traded two (one I made money on and one I lost) that I did not like, but right now I only have one that I would foresee swapping out (race gun in .45).
When I was young, and younger I heard many people express regrets over getting rid of a gun. Ever since I have tried very hard to do my homework, buy guns for a purpose, and USE 'EM. The down side is I keep running out of room to keep them.
Right now I can only think of two reasons I would sell out, economic hard times (need cash to live - once sold a motorcycle for that reason), or to cash out ahead of UK style bans and confiscation (however, I'm enough of a rebel I'd probably fight it too long).
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There are only a couple that I would not sell because they are family guns that have been passed down to me and will someday go to my children.
The others I would sell/trade for other guns if I found a good deal or it was something I really wanted. All the guns I own have a purpose. All (except one) fulfill their roles very well, and I really have no need to sell/trade.
I am currently considering selling/trading my Benelli Nova simply because I dont really like the way the gun fits me and would like to find a more comfortable shotgun.
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There are only a couple that I would not sell because they are family guns that have been passed down to me and will someday go to my children.
The others I would sell/trade for other guns if I found a good deal or it was something I really wanted. All the guns I own have a purpose. All (except one) fulfill their roles very well, and I really have no need to sell/trade.
I am currently considering selling/trading my Benelli Nova simply because I dont really like the way the gun fits me and would like to find a more comfortable shotgun.
Family heirloms are keepers, everything else is up for sale or trade.
The odd thing about family heirloms, is that the pistols I gave to my Sons, I would have traded at a heartbeat. They now consider them heirloms.
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I have sold a few that weren't dear to my heart. I have also given a few away as gifts, but that was the reason I bought them to begin with.
Probably fixing to sell or trade a few as some of my firearms interest have changed and I could use the money. Some are heirlooms, go to guns, or first guns that I won't part with.
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I now have three guns. I wont sell one because I won it, I wont sell another one (.45) because it was my first. I would sell the third but only to upgrade, mainly because it is my inexpensive shooter (.22)
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Might I add.....
This may be the best time of your life to sell your guns...... or maybe the worst....
That is if we do NOT go off into the communist far left oblivion that Obama/Brady want to take us to..... where guns are so difficult/expensive to get that the avg Joe has effectively been disenfranchised from his 2nd Amendment rights.
If what we are seeing in the gun industry is truly just an industry "bubble" like we saw in the Tech and housing industries, then "buy low/sell high" is the rule that is in play here. Prices and demand are soaring, and in this type of environment, its a good time to be a seller.
If this is truly a "bubble", within a few years we will see a sharp decline in demand and a market that is saturated with product...... consequently, gun shops and manufacturers will be over run with inventory, and you should be able to buy anything and everything on the cheap.
Fear is driving this run on the market right now. Lack of product (ammo and firearms) are causing prices to soar and are contributing to the shortage of supply. Obama's four years in office and if he gets elected or not are going to be the deciding factors. I just "hope" that in four years things "change" and we have a pro gun Republican in office so that I can add to my arsenal at discount prices.
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I have sold more guns than I can list here. Some I didn't like and some I was just desperate for cash to keep body and soul together. In my move to Montana we were so short (due to a combination of factors) that I sold everything but my FR-8 and i might have sold it except for the fact that it has some minor issues that would have made it worth more to keep than to sell.
I have now begun to replace my weapons, I have the CZ-999 (A.K.A. EZ40 from EAA) an a Rossi 2in1 in 12ga and 22lr and my next acquisition will be a semi-auto carbine (probably an SKS) and I will save my pennies for a PTR91, though who knows if I will have enough time before things get really stupid in the USA.
I use to be one of these guys who fixated on certain models and brands (and I still do to a small extent) but I have come to conclude that Master Musashi was right;
" You should not have any special fondness for a particular weapon, or anything else, for that matter. . .To entertain likes and dislikes is bad for both commanders and soldiers. Pragmatic thinking is essential."
Gorin no sho (The Book of Five Rings) The Earth Scroll
Miyamoto Musashi
I now look at weapons according to what they do and how they do it. I am more concerned with the function of the weapon than brand or type. Guns are tools, nothing more, some tools are better than others, some do different jobs better than others. I will buy weapons that will suit the jobs I envision and sell and replace them as necessary. Like the Gold and Silver I used to have, they are investments designed to preserve my life and/or make my life easier and I no longer view them as an end in themselves.
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Why, with guns you can get anything...
An easily demonized quote from a horrible man does not make it less true:
"Guns will make us powerful; butter will only make us fat."
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Warhawk, the FR8 in .308 were notorious for feed issues resulting from rough chambers.
Thanos, Who said it ?
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I already sold all of them. ::)
I've sold a few the only one I don't regret selling is the Glock.
LMAO, almost everything has a price. :P
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In my first life as a gun guy I was a bad businessman. I'd buy a gun for $250 and trade it for another but only get $150 for it. It was the NEED to have that next gun....but poor finance.
This is my second life....and I am older....I walk a little slower, I consider things a bit longer. And I have more money.
My plan now is to purchase carefully, shoot often and sell only if I don't care for the piece.
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I sell a gun when it isn't what I expected when I bought it or I am unhappy with its performance. I chalk any monetary loss up to the price of an education.
Also, when it comes back from a factory "upgrade" with a twelve pound trigger I sell it and throw the hat in as well. :P
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I used to have a large collection. I sold most of them off years ago, Now I just have some heirlooms and the rest are practical "tools". All the tools have a price, either upgrade or my needs and wants change. Thats what makes it a hobby. Of course there are some basics you must always have.
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I sell a gun when it isn't what I expected when I bought it or I am unhappy with its performance. I chalk any monetary loss up to the price of an education.
Also, when it comes back from a factory "upgrade" with a twelve pound trigger I sell it and throw the hat in as well. :P
I guess we will be forever linked. I still have the upgraded hat, and wear it occasionally.
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I sold a pistol to a friend at work, but I still have most of the guns I ever bought. I would sell any including family heirlooms if the price was right.
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This is my second life....and I am older....I walk a little slower, I consider things a bit longer. And I have more money.
My plan now is to purchase carefully, shoot often and sell only if I don't care for the piece.
ditto +++
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Might I add.....
This may be the best time of your life to sell your guns...... or maybe the worst....
Fear is driving this run on the market right now. Lack of product (ammo and firearms) are causing prices to soar and are contributing to the shortage of supply. Obama's four years in office and if he gets elected or not are going to be the deciding factors. I just "hope" that in four years things "change" and we have a pro gun Republican in office so that I can add to my arsenal at discount prices.
Amen, but be creful you don't buy, sell or trade OUT of fear. I speak from bitter experience. I own the only$2000 Glock 17 in America. Why? I panicked before the Brady Bill passed. As you fellow old farts remember, some yahoo shotaup a Luby's in Killeen and killed or wounded about twenty folks. There was a big push to have semi-auto handguns added to the banned list. Owning 2 .357s My dads blackhawk (heirloom) and my used python, I traded the python for an nib Glock 17. Seemed like a good idea then. Dumbest trade I ever made now. I think the only thing we really have to worry about are high cap mags, the rest I wouldn't sweat much. That being said, if I had an AR and didn't need the green, I probably wouldn't be in a hurry to sell, but I damn sure would't race out and drop 3Gs on a $900 rifle either.
fughtingquaker13
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Thanos, Who said it ?
Hermann Göring,
But Thatcher said "The Soviets put guns over butter, but we put almost everything over guns."
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Hermann Göring,
But Thatcher said "The Soviets put guns over butter, but we put almost everything over guns."
He would have known the difference ;D
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Heck yes! I have and will sell guns.
I have a BUNCH. I will always have a BUNCH.
But, truthfully...most of them are in the "fun gun" class nowadays. 1911's, Hi Powers, a Bren Ten. I don't carry anything but a Glock. I have built a collection of two of every Gock model, except the Gock 18 (lust lust lust) but even a Glock 18 would be a "fun gun" and not a serious choice as a carry gun.
That being said, I have pared my personal firearms down to three categories...Defensive or Carry Guns, Hunting Guns, and Fun Guns.
The Defensive Guns are going NOWHERE. They are a battery of weapons I have put together that, to my mind, represent the best of the breed in fighting guns. Glock models 21 and 30 for pure fighting handguns. A pre-ban Colt AR-15 A2 that the wife calls "Fluffy" and my M4 in A3 configuration, my Remington 100 with a 20" BBL, Choate Extender, Side Saddle ammo carrier, and ghost ring sights, my wife uses a Benelli Super 90 at work and at home. Her handguns are her Glock 17 she carries on duty, and her Glock 26 she carries off duty or as her at-work BUG. We each have a Browning Buck Mark and a scoped Ruger 10/22. There are also 2 Smith & Wesson Model 686's paired with Rossi .357 Model 92 Carbines. One Remington 742 Woodsmaster .30-06 and a Remington Model 700 .30-06. These are what I call the essentials. I could have these guns forever, and not NEED anything else. There are also a pair of Taurus .357 AirLite snubbies....used ONLY with .38 Spl unless 38 is gone for some reason. They are not for sale.
All of my 1911's, Hi Powers, Bren Ten, Sig pistols, single actions wheelguns, large frame Smith wheelguns, you name it....are all fun guns, or "for sale" at the right price guns. I like them for sure...but there is not one among them that I couldn't live without.
Thus far, I have been lucky enough never the HAVE to sell a gun. I have sold many, many, many, many, many guns over the years in trading for fun, or to fund other gun projects. I sold a few to buy a quad...but they were all "for sale" guns.
My hunting guns are, for the most part, for sale too. They have been bought for specific hunts, or because they were a good deal. The reality is, nothing any of these guns do, can't be done with guns from my DEFENSIVE gun stock in a pinch. So, as much as I like them...under the right circumstances....they too would be for sale.
As much as I hate to say this...and I DON'T want to sound boastful...but, I have too many guns. Some just sit for YEARS and never get shot, handled, or thought about until I "bump into it" while looking for a specific gun, or my small (very very small) stash of cash in my gun safe that my wife isn't supposed to know about. Heck, I have a 98 Mauser of no special value, other than I got it as "boot" in a trade with a feller who was moving out of state. It's kind of a neat gun, but useless to me. I have had it for 15 years or so...and have never fired it. I have a Ruger Number One single shot rifle in 7mm Mag that I got in trade for a 1978 Yamaha 125YZ. The YZ didn't run...but the guy wanted it, and didn't want the rifle, and I wanted the space in my garage. I probably would have given him the darned YZ, but he offered me the rifle because he knew I was a "gun guy". I still have the partial box of 7mm ammo that I got with the rifle. There were 6 rounds missing from the box when I got it...and there are still only six rounds missing from the box.
This thread has made me think about a yard sale...
Look for a listing in CLASSIFIED some day soon.
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Frisco, where's the porn ???
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Amen, but be creful you don't buy, sell or trade OUT of fear. I speak from bitter experience. I own the only$2000 Glock 17 in America. Why? I panicked before the Brady Bill passed. As you fellow old farts remember, some yahoo shotaup a Luby's in Killeen and killed or wounded about twenty folks. There was a big push to have semi-auto handguns added to the banned list. Owning 2 .357s My dads blackhawk (heirloom) and my used python, I traded the python for an nib Glock 17. Seemed like a good idea then. Dumbest trade I ever made now. I think the only thing we really have to worry about are high cap mags, the rest I wouldn't sweat much. That being said, if I had an AR and didn't need the green, I probably wouldn't be in a hurry to sell, but I damn sure would't race out and drop 3Gs on a $900 rifle either.
fughtingquaker13
Prices are getting steep indeed..... ammo and guns.
In my observations, both are running a 25%-33% premium when available.
* Here is a $10,000 Glock 19 on GunBroker..... It has gold inlay...... there are also some Glock 26s for $8,000.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=124617287
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Heck yes! I have and will sell guns.
I have a BUNCH. I will always have a BUNCH.
But, truthfully...most of them are in the "fun gun" class nowadays. 1911's, Hi Powers, a Bren Ten. I don't carry anything but a Glock. I have built a collection of two of every Gock model, except the Gock 18 (lust lust lust) but even a Glock 18 would be a "fun gun" and not a serious choice as a carry gun.
That being said, I have pared my personal firearms down to three categories...Defensive or Carry Guns, Hunting Guns, and Fun Guns.
The Defensive Guns are going NOWHERE. They are a battery of weapons I have put together that, to my mind, represent the best of the breed in fighting guns. Glock models 21 and 30 for pure fighting handguns. A pre-ban Colt AR-15 A2 that the wife calls "Fluffy" and my M4 in A3 configuration, my Remington 100 with a 20" BBL, Choate Extender, Side Saddle ammo carrier, and ghost ring sights, my wife uses a Benelli Super 90 at work and at home. Her handguns are her Glock 17 she carries on duty, and her Glock 26 she carries off duty or as her at-work BUG. We each have a Browning Buck Mark and a scoped Ruger 10/22. There are also 2 Smith & Wesson Model 686's paired with Rossi .357 Model 92 Carbines. One Remington 742 Woodsmaster .30-06 and a Remington Model 700 .30-06. These are what I call the essentials. I could have these guns forever, and not NEED anything else. There are also a pair of Taurus .357 AirLite snubbies....used ONLY with .38 Spl unless 38 is gone for some reason. They are not for sale.
All of my 1911's, Hi Powers, Bren Ten, Sig pistols, single actions wheelguns, large frame Smith wheelguns, you name it....are all fun guns, or "for sale" at the right price guns. I like them for sure...but there is not one among them that I couldn't live without.
Thus far, I have been lucky enough never the HAVE to sell a gun. I have sold many, many, many, many, many guns over the years in trading for fun, or to fund other gun projects. I sold a few to buy a quad...but they were all "for sale" guns.
My hunting guns are, for the most part, for sale too. They have been bought for specific hunts, or because they were a good deal. The reality is, nothing any of these guns do, can't be done with guns from my DEFENSIVE gun stock in a pinch. So, as much as I like them...under the right circumstances....they too would be for sale.
As much as I hate to say this...and I DON'T want to sound boastful...but, I have too many guns. Some just sit for YEARS and never get shot, handled, or thought about until I "bump into it" while looking for a specific gun, or my small (very very small) stash of cash in my gun safe that my wife isn't supposed to know about. Heck, I have a 98 Mauser of no special value, other than I got it as "boot" in a trade with a feller who was moving out of state. It's kind of a neat gun, but useless to me. I have had it for 15 years or so...and have never fired it. I have a Ruger Number One single shot rifle in 7mm Mag that I got in trade for a 1978 Yamaha 125YZ. The YZ didn't run...but the guy wanted it, and didn't want the rifle, and I wanted the space in my garage. I probably would have given him the darned YZ, but he offered me the rifle because he knew I was a "gun guy". I still have the partial box of 7mm ammo that I got with the rifle. There were 6 rounds missing from the box when I got it...and there are still only six rounds missing from the box.
This thread has made me think about a yard sale...
Look for a listing in CLASSIFIED some day soon.
For the record, I'm available for adoption. ;D
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Frisco, where's the porn ???
It would be a pain in the butt to empty out 3 safes and various hard cases for the over flow to take pics of a pile o' guns. That's a project I don't want to get into. When the wife and I bought this house, we had to hire extra movers to move the darned safes. Besides....photographic evidence in admissable in court ;)
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For the record, I'm available for adoption. ;D
I have a daughter already...she is like a whole herd of wildcats by herself. I couldn't handle it. ;D
Now, if someone were to send Jessica Simpson over as an au pair....I'd make the gust room into one heck of a nanny's quarters.
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I have a daughter already...she is like a whole herd of wildcats by herself. I couldn't handle it. ;D
Now, if someone were to send Jessica Simpson over as an au pair....I'd make the gust room into one heck of a nanny's quarters.
Heck, Dad.......I'd even be willing to share Jessica's room!! ;D
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I have a daughter already...she is like a whole herd of wildcats by herself. I couldn't handle it. ;D
Now, if someone were to send Jessica Simpson over as an au pair....I'd make the gust room into one heck of a nanny's quarters.
And your wife would use one of those guns on you before she took 2 steps into the house. Remember Frank Giffords sleepwalking ;)?
fighting quaker13
Of course, this would leave a widow with legal bills and a large gun collection......On second thought, go for it!