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Title: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: odyssey1 on September 04, 2009, 01:56:11 PM
I've shot 44mags, 454 Casull, and a couple of Smith's new big bores and I would shoot them again.

One gun that I'm hesitant to shoot again is the S&W Scandium Snub Nose.  I believe it was the 340?  My friend who is a Chicago Police Officer uses one as an ankle gun but usually loads .38 +P rounds.  At our last range outing, he decided to load it up with some .357 rounds and hand it over to me.

I once read a review where the shooter described the flame out of the front being similar to an orangutan jumping out of the barrel.  I have to admit that that was a pretty accurate description.   We were shooting indoors and this gun roars!  The recoil made my had physically sore after 3 cylinders and I quit. 

I'm sure in a defensive scenario, adrenaline would kick in so you really wouldn't feel or hear much of it but if I were given the chance to step up to the line and shoot it again, I think I would pass. 

I shot my 642 Powerport right after shooting his and mine felt like a .22 with standard .38 rounds. 

If anyone is curious, the porting up front of the 642 Powerport has yet to spit up hot gasses (even when shot from close retention) or has caused any excess noise like some claimed it would because it was ported.  It's the only gun I have with a lock but it doesn't bother me and I love it.  Probably one of my favorite guns.
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 04, 2009, 02:53:37 PM
Yes, This one.  ;D
http://www.magnumresearch.com/bfr_fact.asp

 Come to think of it I'd be leery of this one too.

http://www.foundrymusic.com/opieanthony/displaymedia.cfm/id/5696/div/opieanthony/media_search/LATEST/LATEST/all/page/download_NUKE_50_PISTOL_DEMO_.html
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: 2HOW on September 04, 2009, 02:55:53 PM
Only the ones shooting at me.
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: WatchManUSA on September 04, 2009, 03:27:38 PM
Only the ones shooting at me.

Got that one right but I'll add guns that are poorly maintained.
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: twyacht on September 04, 2009, 05:07:19 PM
There's a video of the "T-Rex" .577 Nitro? Here somewhere, knocking people on their ass's. All were NOT shooters, had the wrong stance, and were total novices.

I'd shoot it anyway. 8)

Shot a .500 S&W Magnum, not out of control for someone with a good stance and has fired large caliber arms before. Not for the rookie to be sure.

My 1891 Mauser with original metal buttplate makes me physically sore after several stripper clips...
Same for 3" Sabot Slugs...in 12g

But this guy shooting anything scares me the most,....can't tell if its a 600 nitro or not, but he's a lucky guy...

saved for posterity...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrXOuWhsU5M
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: wisconsin on September 04, 2009, 05:17:30 PM
S&W .500 does give me some pause. Its not a gun I think I could keep on target if I had to rapid fire it. Tried it once and only once.
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: Pathfinder on September 04, 2009, 06:11:02 PM
The T-rex, and those double barrel British elephant guns. I have kids to abuse me, I don't need to do it to myself!   ;D
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: david86440 on September 04, 2009, 06:56:30 PM
I've shot 44mags, 454 Casull, and a couple of Smith's new big bores and I would shoot them again.

One gun that I'm hesitant to shoot again is the S&W Scandium Snub Nose.  I believe it was the 340?  My friend who is a Chicago Police Officer uses one as an ankle gun but usually loads .38 +P rounds.  At our last range outing, he decided to load it up with some .357 rounds and hand it over to me.

I once read a review where the shooter described the flame out of the front being similar to an orangutan jumping out of the barrel.  I have to admit that that was a pretty accurate description.   We were shooting indoors and this gun roars!  The recoil made my had physically sore after 3 cylinders and I quit. 

I'm sure in a defensive scenario, adrenaline would kick in so you really wouldn't feel or hear much of it but if I were given the chance to step up to the line and shoot it again, I think I would pass. 

I shot my 642 Powerport right after shooting his and mine felt like a .22 with standard .38 rounds. 

If anyone is curious, the porting up front of the 642 Powerport has yet to spit up hot gasses (even when shot from close retention) or has caused any excess noise like some claimed it would because it was ported.  It's the only gun I have with a lock but it doesn't bother me and I love it.  Probably one of my favorite guns.

It's funny that I carry a M&P 340 and have never thought of it as being that brutal. My current carry round is Hornady Critical Defense FTX .38 +P's but I have shot .357 mags in it.

I consider a hand full my NAA 22LR with CCI stingers............. :)

Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: Johnny Bravo on September 04, 2009, 07:05:36 PM
I have a S&W 500 and enjoy shooting it. It's a pleasure to shoot with 300 gr. You had better be ready with the 500 gr. It takes awhile to clean afterward but it's still fun to shoot. ;)
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: Jackel on September 04, 2009, 10:43:01 PM
http://www.magnumresearch.com/Expand.asp?ProductCode=Black-6 (http://www.magnumresearch.com/Expand.asp?ProductCode=Black-6)

desert eagle. gave my buddy a bruise in the mouth when he decided to show off to the hot quartermaster.
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 04, 2009, 11:48:19 PM
http://www.magnumresearch.com/Expand.asp?ProductCode=Black-6 (http://www.magnumresearch.com/Expand.asp?ProductCode=Black-6)

desert eagle. gave my buddy a bruise in the mouth when he decided to show off to the hot quartermaster.

That stuff happens when your thinking with your little head  ;D
Did you give him crap ?  ;D
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: CJS3 on September 05, 2009, 09:22:00 AM
I don't know if "scare" is the right word, but "extra caution" would be the operative discription when shooting black powder revolvers. I had one chain fire on me when I got in a hurry to load it, and since then I've always taken extra care when loading.
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: blackwolfe on September 05, 2009, 09:48:38 AM
This one doesn't necessarily scare me, but sure would like to shoot one some time.  I have a friend that owns one and if I ever get a chance to visit him in Alaska I may get that chance.

The Ithaca Auto and Burgler

 http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle1997/le970315-03.html
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: Hazcat on September 05, 2009, 09:54:06 AM
This one doesn't necessarily scare me, but sure would like to shoot one some time.  I have a friend that owns one and if I ever get a chance to visit him in Alaska I may get that chance.

The Ithaca Auto and Burgler

 http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle1997/le970315-03.html

Won't say how or when but I shot a 20 gauge single barrel like that.  Not bad really.
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: Timothy on September 05, 2009, 10:30:49 AM
(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo283/tsbevins/1650-WISKY-h97207k.jpg)

Yes!  The Navy and it's toys!
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: PegLeg45 on September 05, 2009, 10:52:12 AM
Yes....any one that is pointed in my general direction......other than that, no.     ;)
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: MAUSERMAN on September 05, 2009, 08:48:25 PM
Anything in .577 t-rex. ;D
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: Jackel on September 05, 2009, 09:26:25 PM
That stuff happens when your thinking with your little head  ;D
Did you give him crap ?  ;D

of course not.

i asked her out while he was getting fixed up  ;D
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: Hazcat on September 05, 2009, 09:43:44 PM
of course not.

i asked her out while he was getting fixed up  ;D

AHHH!!! A man that can think on his feet!  GOOD JOB!  ;D
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: TAB on September 05, 2009, 09:45:44 PM
shot guns with damaskus barrels, more so when you  see some one shooting smokeless in them....


other then that no, but I'm not going to shoot off a super uber mag in a light wieght gun( I don't care if its a hand gun or a light wieght rifle.)
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 05, 2009, 10:16:03 PM
shot guns with damaskus barrels, more so when you  see some one shooting smokeless in them....


other then that no, but I'm not going to shoot off a super uber mag in a light wieght gun( I don't care if its a hand gun or a light wieght rifle.)

That's a sin they should burn in hell for even if they DON"T blow it up.
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: m25operator on September 06, 2009, 02:27:00 PM
Not so much scare as respect, Maybe the 20mm boys rifles from ww2, single shot anti aircraft rifle.
I would try the .577 but only standing up first, not off the bench.

Great guns I have sighted in for other people for pay.
1) .460 Weatherby Mag, ouch!!
2) 450-500 nitro express double rifle, not too bad, but not for very long.
3) My 6.5lb Rem 788 scout rifle in .308 with plastic butt plate. Ouch!! Don't notice it hunting though. Until you take your shirt off and see the pretty purple spot.

Did not bug me, but I had a contender in .444 marlin, that was a hoot, yes the pistol not the carbine.
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: Walter45Auto on September 06, 2009, 05:20:52 PM
Yes, This one.  ;D
http://www.magnumresearch.com/bfr_fact.asp

 Come to think of it I'd be leery of this one too.

http://www.foundrymusic.com/opieanthony/displaymedia.cfm/id/5696/div/opieanthony/media_search/LATEST/LATEST/all/page/download_NUKE_50_PISTOL_DEMO_.html

I can say from experience, that as long as you keep the BFR (Mine's a .45-70) at arms length it's not that bad.
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: fightingquaker13 on September 06, 2009, 09:25:16 PM
I can say from experience, that as long as you keep the BFR (Mine's a .45-70) at arms length it's not that bad.
That's an odd, but very cool choice of caliber for semi. I like it.
FQ13
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 06, 2009, 10:14:55 PM
That's an odd, but very cool choice of caliber for semi. I like it.
FQ13

FQ, BFR Big F-cking REVOLVER. Not semi, you couldn't get your hand around the grip.  ;D
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: Combat Diver on September 07, 2009, 07:33:27 AM
The only guns that scare me are those that have dangerous gun handling skills, like flagging you and poor muzzle disclispine.  Generally not afraid of bad guys shooting at me because I shoot back and hit my target and they can't.  Incoming mortar and rocket fire is a different issue.  Largest rifle gun fired was a 120mm on a M1A1 Abrams and largest fired from the shoulder was a 84mm AT4 anti tank rocket.
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: fightingquaker13 on September 07, 2009, 07:39:20 AM
FQ, BFR Big F-cking REVOLVER. Not semi, you couldn't get your hand around the grip.  ;D
I thought the previous topic was about Desert Eagle, which does load magnum revolver rounds like .50 .44 mag, .454 casull etc in a semi auto. That's why I was surprised (and apparently with good reason) at the .45-70 reference.
FQ13
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 07, 2009, 07:50:50 AM
I thought the previous topic was about Desert Eagle, which does load magnum revolver rounds like .50 .44 mag, .454 casull etc in a semi auto. That's why I was surprised (and apparently with good reason) at the .45-70 reference.
FQ13

You need to get out more  ;D
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: fightingquaker13 on September 07, 2009, 07:56:46 AM
You need to get out more  ;D
Too true, but don't tell me a .45-70 Desert Eagle wouldn't have you asking, Why? Followed immediately by, How much? ;D
FQ13
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: sledgemeister on September 07, 2009, 09:19:02 AM
I dunno about scared about using a firearm, handguns I dont think I would have an issue although that being said it would greatly depend on the make, who loaded it and who maintained it.
I have seen people use some crappy guns that scare me.
As far as rifles yeah that .577 trex would make me hesitant as well as the 4 bore BP shot gun, that thing looks brutal.

I can attest to though that firing two .44's  simultaneously, one in each hand is quite fun!
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: PegLeg45 on September 07, 2009, 01:47:58 PM
I dunno about scared about using a firearm, handguns I dont think I would have an issue although that being said it would greatly depend on the make, who loaded it and who maintained it.
I have seen people use some crappy guns that scare me.
As far as rifles yeah that .577 trex would make me hesitant as well as the 4 bore BP shot gun, that thing looks brutal.

I can attest to though that firing two .44's  simultaneously, one in each hand is quite fun!

Yes it is!!!!!      ;)   ;D
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: sledgemeister on September 14, 2009, 09:00:02 AM
Yes it is!!!!!      ;)   ;D


Muahhhhh another big kid too I see LOL

On saturday we had a new guy come to the club with another member and shot his .22 s&w and 22wmr rifle.
After the comp I let him try some real guns, 9mm cz, .357 taurus and redhawk even my .22 charger much to his delight. Nothing lit up his eyes when another senior member and myself placed a .44 in his hand each (with us on either side supervising) and let him blast a couple rounds off at the same time.. I think he is hooked now  ;D
Its certainly not something that you would let every newby try but there are some exceptions - he was stoked and you couldnt wipe the grin off with an wire wheel and a angle grinder. Shooting should be many things and unfortunately in these days of goody goody antis and half wit politicians the fun bit is often left out, and as long as its safe the fun part should be encouraged if we want our sport and way of life to continue, after all we arent getting younger and we need people to take over when we are worm bait.
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: blackwolfe on September 15, 2009, 01:45:25 AM
This would be fun too.  Pedersoli Black powder double barrel pistol from Cabelas in 20 guage or .58 caliber. I couldn't make the picture show up, so you'll have to click the kink.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0058399216598a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH_all&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&Ntt=howdah&Ntk=Products&sort=all&Go.y=9&_D%3AhasJS=+&N=0&_D%3Asort=+&Nty=1&hasJS=true&Go.x=15&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.form1&_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1



With twin barrels packing a one-two wallop, this big-bore pistol was popular with Europeans exploring the vast jungles of India and Burma in the mid-1800s. On a typical excursion, explorers and soldiers were part of an elephant caravan. Riding on a howdah (the basket perched atop an elephant) may look safe in today's world, but a century ago danger was imminent. Tigers could scale the side of a slow-moving elephant in the blink of an eye, causing great concern for startled riders. To combat surprise big-cat attacks, the Howdah-style side-by-side pistol was created. Two cavernous 20-gauge smoothbore barrels or .58 caliber rifled barrels may be loaded with buckshot, a single slug, or the devastating "buck and ball"-load common in big-bore muzzleloaders used on dangerous game. Whichever you choose, this hand-cannon will square up on a target with a sense of authority not seen since the days of Victorian-era British imperialism. Squeeze one of the triggers, and you'll appreciate the hand-conforming checkered walnut grip and the recoil-soaking end-cap counterweight as this charge-stopping pistol lays down its withering hail of lead. Its case-hardened lockplates are engraved with detailed wild animal scenes.
Barrel length: 11-1/4".
Overall length: 17-3/4".
Weight: 4-1/2 lbs.
Available: 20 ga., .58 cal.



Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: Walter45Auto on September 15, 2009, 11:49:40 AM
I can attest to though that firing two .44's  simultaneously, one in each hand is quite fun!

Hmmmmm..... That I havent tried...... Tried 2 45's, a 45 and a .357, 2 .357s, but never 2 .44s.
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: Big Frank on September 15, 2009, 08:44:47 PM
If you fiire both guns straight down will it lift you off the ground like Yosemite Sam?  ;D
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: PegLeg45 on September 16, 2009, 12:39:25 PM
If you fiire both guns straight down will it lift you off the ground like Yosemite Sam?  ;D

That all depends on how much extra 'baggage' there is in the cargo hold.........in my case, two 105's might get it done.    ;D



And yes, firing two 1911's at the same time is fun too.

Did any of y'all happen to see Impossible Shots last week? Jerry Miculeck had six M&P's staged and was firing one in each hand as fast as he could.


 8)
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: shooter32 on September 16, 2009, 12:44:08 PM
  ;D
And yes, firing two 1911's at the same time is fun too.

Did any of y'all happen to see Impossible Shots last week? Jerry Miculeck had six M&P's staged and was firing one in each hand as fast as he could.


 8)

The man is amazing :o  At his age and to do what he does.  AWESOME!!
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: Walter45Auto on September 17, 2009, 12:25:33 AM
That all depends on how much extra 'baggage' there is in the cargo hold.........in my case, two 105's might get it done.    ;D



And yes, firing two 1911's at the same time is fun too.

Did any of y'all happen to see Impossible Shots last week? Jerry Miculeck had six M&P's staged and was firing one in each hand as fast as he could.


 8)

Yeah that was one of my favorite things to see him do. ;D Oh and the one where he ran the 1911as fast as the uzi his wife had was cool too....
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: Walter45Auto on September 17, 2009, 12:35:30 AM
The man is amazing :o  At his age and to do what he does.  AWESOME!!

He has Everyone on this forum's dream job!!!!
Title: Re: Any Guns scare you?
Post by: odyssey1 on September 17, 2009, 03:09:10 PM
Thanks everyone for your replies.

Just an update; I faced the beast again today at lunch!  I took an extended lunch and met my buddy at the range and he brought the little monster with him again (actually, it's his back up and it's always with him). 

Knowing what type of punishment I was going to take I was prepared, but actually shot worse than the first time.  I think it was because I was anticipating the recoil this time.  I just had to do it again.  Normally it's loaded with +P's and shooting those felt much tamer.

At least I can say I tried again.

As a side note, I did have the opportunity to shoot a Sig 210.  Nice gun but my groups from my CZ SP-01 were just as tight with WWB.  Maybe match ammo or customized handloads would have shown its true potential.