Author Topic: Something Different "Wasp Spray"  (Read 12011 times)

fightingquaker13

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Re: Something Different "Wasp Spray"
« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2010, 02:24:35 AM »

what the LEO thinks means nothing.  its what the DA, judges and jury think.

Plus what their Dept. tells them to think. We live in the age of "zero tolerance", which translates to the age of no room for initiative. You follow the rules, no matter how illogical, and you're covered, as you were "following procedure". Use your own judgement and you are on your own, as your agency will go the mat to defend its rules, but will cut you loose in heart beat if they have to defend YOU, rather than themselves. Cops get the message. Why do you handcuff the unresisting 75 year old you arrested? Just following procedure. Max Weber wrote about this 100 years ago in "The Iron Cage"(of bureacracy), with an update from Hannah Arendt in the "Banality of Evil" (cheerful lot, those Germans). We're lucky enough to see it come to fruition. :-\
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Re: Something Different "Wasp Spray"
« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2010, 04:39:36 AM »
That lesson is leaving people alone may have saved his life or kept him out of prison.....or kept him from being a wife beater.  You never know.

Good point. While walking home from junior high, I was walking past a broken fence that opened to a cement part of a drainage ditch that the local kids used for skateboarding and doing drugs. One of 2 brothers who were known as thugs and were known to have ties to a Santa Ana street gang yelled at me to come over, so he could throw me off of the 15 foot drop. I kept on my own path and ignored him, but he came after me and beat me pretty good, to the point where all of my braces on my front teeth had torn into and were stuck on the inside of my mouth. My mom called the police and they had us file a report that amounted to a slap on the hand. I don't think they'd learned the same lesson as if I'd don some actual damage. 8 or 9 years later, with some pretty long criminal records, these 2 brothers and 1 of their cousins finally killed a 14 year old girl at a party. Their families sent them running to Mexico, but they were finally caught and are serving life sentences. Every time I drive past their parents house, I get a little angry that the legal avenues that are allowed to us were so useless against these animals. I imagine that I'd be even more pissed if I were the murdered girl's dad.

As far as wasp spray goes, I wouldn't do it in California. It's kind of setting yourself up for a felony, like carrying a baseball bat in your car as a weapon. Also, I'd hate to get in the car in summer and have the can explode with my family or myself in the car.

 

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