"If I Only had a Gun" - not hopeful it's fair and balanced

[fullautovalmet76]

Enough of the gaming regards the shootout. ABC sucks. As Clint Smith would say, "got it". How about some gaming as to how to respond. Yes we chat about this on this forum. BUT WHAT IS THE INDUSTRY DOING? Once again the industry is caught totally flat footed.   I swear that I don't get it ! If the ball bearing industry was being beat the hell over the roundness of their balls, don't ya think they would put something up on YOUTUBE? Wouldn't someone be Tweetering away? Wouldn't facebook, myspace etc have all sorts of stink over it? Wouldn't someone be buying time on ABC for a response even if for a 1 minute spot on the evening news?

The industry is the most backward, most out of touch, most lame I have ever seen. If someone was going into the yearbook for most likely to end up changing tires at the bus depot it would be the firearm execs and NSSF. And don't forget the NRA, SAF, GOA etc...they ain't getting off the hook either. Where in gods name are they all? Talk about freezing in hopes the sabre tooth tiger will just pass by !!!

1776,
Unfortunately, you may be right. One thing I have noticed about the industry is they value conformity and tradition. Since it has been traditional for the NRA to lead the charge, it seems everyone sits around and waits for the NRA to do something.

I finished reading a book by Richard Feldman (I think he is one of MB's friends  ) and he had a point, actually his main point, about the NRA: it appears that the NRA would rather fight than win. They use these "crises" and dust-ups with the media as opportunities to raise more money; I know Feldman is persona non grata at the NRA and I certainly have a problem with his view of "Joe Sixpack" gun owners. I'm waiting for the mail to pour into mailbox about defeating the gun grabbers in the media......

[tombogan03884]

1776,
Unfortunately, you may be right. One thing I have noticed about the industry is they value conformity and tradition. Since it has been traditional for the NRA to lead the charge, it seems everyone sits around and waits for the NRA to do something.

I finished reading a book by Richard Feldman (I think he is one of MB's friends  ) and he had a point, actually his main point, about the NRA: it appears that the NRA would rather fight than win. They use these "crises" and dust-ups with the media as opportunities to raise more money; I know Feldman is persona non grata at the NRA and I certainly have a problem with his view of "Joe Sixpack" gun owners. I'm waiting for the mail to pour into mailbox about defeating the gun grabbers in the media......

If that book was "Ricochet-Confessions of a gun lobbiest"  I heard an interview with him on the Gresham show. He is STILL an NRA life member, He's simply pointing out what I've said right along, lobbying is big business and money is how they keep score. If the threat to the 2A goes away tomorrow, so does the money.
Think how many lawyers would be out of work.

[fullautovalmet76]

If that book was "Ricochet-Confessions of a gun lobbiest"  I heard an interview with him on the Gresham show. He is STILL an NRA life member, He's simply pointing out what I've said right along, lobbying is big business and money is how they keep score. If the threat to the 2A goes away tomorrow, so does the money.
Think how many lawyers would be out of work.

Yeah, that was the book. I know he is a life member (a Benefactor I believe), but I did not think that Gresham would interview him; how long ago was that? I wouldn't mind picking that up on a podcast. I bet it was an interesting interview....

[tombogan03884]

Yeah, that was the book. I know he is a life member (a Benefactor I believe), but I did not think that Gresham would interview him; how long ago was that? I wouldn't mind picking that up on a podcast. I bet it was an interesting interview....

28 October -07 hour 2

[philw]

for those that have not seen it yet  here is a part of it


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so7JTzrpJDE

OMO it is  Training for copycats.

Is it time that decent people sought these journalists out and stopped them?



few points

where they show a group of students being put through some rudimentary training and then put into a school shooting type situation.

Nice idea but they put everything so in favor of the shooter it's not funny.

*First they have the kids aiming for the head, they don't mention anything about this in the video but all the target shots seem to be going for the head and they're being training so the trainers are obviously training the kids to aim for the head instead of centre of mass.

*Then they put them in ridiculously large t-shirts

*Give them cumbersome thumbreak holsters

*Sit them in the front row and centre of the room, and everyone else knows what's going on except the student

*Use a professional firearms instructor (who knows where the armed student is sitting) to gun them down

Watch the video. It shows out of the five students only one shoots the shooter and that's after they've been shot themselves. Every time the shooter enters the class, shoots the teacher and then goes for the armed student next. All the other "classmates" either run for the door or hide under the desks within two seconds. The student being the only one who doesn't know what's going on is pretty much the only one left in the room because everyone else knew what was happening. As I said, a pretty biased scenario.

What they should have had was a whole class of people who didn't know what was happening. Plus different positioning for the shooter in each scenario, a non professional shooter (ie: another college kid or paid actor), and one or more armed students in each room but still make it a surprise. Then run at least one scenario with no one armed in the room and see how many students survive.

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[cooptire]

for those that have not seen it yet  here is a part of it


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so7JTzrpJDE

OMO it is  Training for copycats.

Is it time that decent people sought these journalists out and stopped them?



few points

where they show a group of students being put through some rudimentary training and then put into a school shooting type situation.

Nice idea but they put everything so in favor of the shooter it's not funny.

*First they have the kids aiming for the head, they don't mention anything about this in the video but all the target shots seem to be going for the head and they're being training so the trainers are obviously training the kids to aim for the head instead of centre of mass.

*Then they put them in ridiculously large t-shirts

*Give them cumbersome thumbreak holsters

*Sit them in the front row and centre of the room, and everyone else knows what's going on except the student

*Use a professional firearms instructor (who knows where the armed student is sitting) to gun them down

Watch the video. It shows out of the five students only one shoots the shooter and that's after they've been shot themselves. Every time the shooter enters the class, shoots the teacher and then goes for the armed student next. All the other "classmates" either run for the door or hide under the desks within two seconds. The student being the only one who doesn't know what's going on is pretty much the only one left in the room because everyone else knew what was happening. As I said, a pretty biased scenario.

What they should have had was a whole class of people who didn't know what was happening. Plus different positioning for the shooter in each scenario, a non professional shooter (ie: another college kid or paid actor), and one or more armed students in each room but still make it a surprise. Then run at least one scenario with no one armed in the room and see how many students survive.

PhilW, I understand what you are saying, but you are insinuating that ABC wanted a honest attempt at reporting. This was purely another attack piece on the 2nd amendment and nothing else. And showing the last scenario you propose would have probably given ol' Diane a heart attack, and we can't have that can we. No, this was obviously nothing more than another biased editorial masquerading as a news piece. POS is more like it.