America: Freedom to Fascism

[runstowin]

The good part is that we get to pay for these thugs to oppress us. What a country.

[tombogan03884]

Section 2 Clause 3  Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed

Section 8 clause 1  The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

section 9 clause 4 No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken.7

Yes it's unconstitutional but the only way to get rid of it is revolution.
This will not get you out of paying your mortgage, that comes under contract law. One of the reasons the Articles of Confederation failed was because they contained no provision for forcing the repayment of Revolutionary war loans, Foriegn investors , afraid of not being repaid were not investing in America. The "Industrial revolution" was not possible until the Constitutions protection of debt came into affect.

[Thanos]

3) death

WRONG!!!

[runstowin]

Tombogan03884: This will not get you out of paying your mortgage, that comes under contract law.

So does the income tax, people fill out and sign a contract when they do their hiring paperwork you know W-4 form.
Form W-4 (2009)
Purpose. Complete Form W-4 so that your
employer can withhold the correct federal income
tax from your pay.

[Teresa Heilevang]

Listen to what she has to say............


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[metamurph]

.yes, the IRS does segmentation, they have to figure out who to investigate and they are serious users of profiling software and lucky for them, they don't have to work too hard to find somewhere that you have screwed up given the size of the tax code and the interpretations etc.  This is why you don't want to deal with them in their own court system etc.  That isn't to say is it constitutional etc.  We can open up the whole federal reserve system and "foundation" of our modern economy too, lots of room to look at how the existing system is way out of whack with what the constitution states (depending on your interpretation I suppose) and this is part of why you can't say simply democrat vs. republican (if they really know what a republic is..) etc.  Does it mean we should through a tea party? maybe but given the current cast of characters and the people that voted them into office I still have no desire to see a constitutional congress convened and I don't need any more issues with the irs than I already have.  But I do believe we can (just as we should be doing with gun rights) have a strong local revolution which is what I find interesting with http://www.freecapitalist.com there needs to be a strong re-education.

tom