America: Freedom to Fascism

[ericire12]

I do believe that you must file some form of tax statement on your earnings in the year that you die.

The old saw "nothing is certain except death AND taxes."  AND not OR

What are they gonna do if ya dont!?!?!?!

[fightingquaker13]

What are they gonna do if ya dont!?!?!?!

Take it out your estate, plus penalties, fines and interest. Also note,  that in cases of fraud, they can take your house. If your spouse and children knew, then they are on the hook criminally as well. When it comes to scary effective law enforcement in the US, the IRS and the Postal Inspectors have them all beat hands down. As much as they could be better used catching terrorists it is what it is. As far as the taxes are unconstitutional bit, ask Sammuel L. Jackson, who is doing three to five in club fed after relieing on a video/seminar like the one you mentioned. I think Wednesday is for visitors. If you are thinking of trying this DON'T! The sixteenh ammendment vitiated the "no head taxes" clause. Hell, Lincoln got away with them in the Civil War, even without the ammendment, under the War Powers Doctrine. The bottom line is, if you try this, you will lose, and lose hard. I may be a Libertarian, but I also teach poli-sci and con law for a living. Just don't go there.
fightingquaker13

[Pathfinder]

What are they gonna do if ya dont!?!?!?!

Take it out your estate, plus penalties, fines and interest. Also note,  that in cases of fraud, they can take your house. If your spouse and children knew, then they are on the hook criminally as well. When it comes to scary effective law enforcement in the US, the IRS and the Postal Inspectors have them all beat hands down. As much as they could be better used catching terrorists it is what it is. As far as the taxes are unconstitutional bit, ask Sammuel L. Jackson, who is doing three to five in club fed after relieing on a video/seminar like the one you mentioned. I think Wednesday is for visitors. If you are thinking of trying this DON'T! The sixteenh ammendment vitiated the "no head taxes" clause. Hell, Lincoln got away with them in the Civil War, even without the ammendment, under the War Powers Doctrine. The bottom line is, if you try this, you will lose, and lose hard. I may be a Libertarian, but I also teach poli-sci and con law for a living. Just don't go there.
fightingquaker13

I think you mean Wesley Snipes. But, point well taken.

[tombogan03884]

3) death

Then instead your estate pays inheritance tax 

[fightingquaker13]

I think you mean Wesley Snipes. But, point well taken.

Oops! Thats embarrasing on so many levels. I stand corrected, and apologize to Mr. Jackson.
Thanks Pathfinder
fightingquaker13

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[tombogan03884]

They got Willie Nelson as well.

[runstowin]

This is certainly a juicy topic. There is no law that says anyone is required to pay an income tax, there is also no law requiring anyone to pay for a mortgage yet, there are millions of people required to pay for mortgages nonetheless. The short story is that almost every person in this country who works and gets paid for it has voluntarily identified themselves as taxpayers, taxpayers have volunteered to obey all of the parts of the IRS code that pertains to them. People can get into trouble with the IRS quite innocently because, it is by purpose and design incomprehensible, yet every taxpayer has put themselves inadvertently in a position of being responsible for rules they could not possibly understand. The bottom line is that the IRS code is completely evil.

[alfsauve]

The bottom line is that the IRS code is completely evil.

I believe every commissioner of the IRS has admitted they couldn't possible know or understand "the code".  But unlike "the pirate code" these are just suggestions.  There is the force of law behind the IRS which ultimately gets enforced at the point of a gun.

SUPORT FAIRTAX  http://www.fairtax.org

[bryand71]

I believe every commissioner of the IRS has admitted they couldn't possible know or understand "the code".  But unlike "the pirate code" these are just suggestions.  There is the force of law behind the IRS which ultimately gets enforced at the point of a gun.

SUPORT FAIRTAX  http://www.fairtax.org

Glad you brought up the Fairtax, for some unknown reason, I didn't mention it. I am a big supporter of the Fairtax. It truly is better then the current pile of crap we have now. If you haven't read the book The Fairtax, go and get it, it will explain everything.

[ericire12]

I am a big supporter of the Fairtax. It truly is better then the current pile of crap we have now.

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