"New gun coming next week"

[Big Frank]

I'll be interested to see how accurate it is with that free-floated barrel.

[TAB]

I would be shocked if it shoots better then thier *cough* target 10/22 model.

[blackwolfe]

Frank, I'm not sure, but I don't think the barrel is free floated.  They talk about a barrel suport block and it appears to be in the tube where the sling stud is.  Image No. 6
http://www.ruger-firearms.com/SR22/features.html

[Michael Bane]

Frankly, if you're going to run one of these things hard in training and you need 1-to-1 matching with a duty AR (an LEO Special Teamthat uses M4s as their issue weapon, for example), get a conversion unit for your standard AR lower — and, yes, I have a relationship with Tactical Solutions, but feel free to buy Spike's, CMMG's or even Jon Ciener's uppers. You end up with your own stock and trigger, plus a much more rugged gun than any of the dedicated .22 units out there. And yes again, it will cost you more, but TINSTAAFL!!! Especially not in firearms. It's worth noting that departments who do a lot heavy duty Airsoft training have gone away from the consumer products to much more expensive dedicated training guns...I saw a couple of AR Airsofts at SHOT that rivalled "real" ARs in price.

The Nordic Component-equipped 10/22s have had the crap shot out of them in training and in .22 competition by 3-gun champions like Tate Moots. They've held up great and are proven training tools, so I would imagine the SR-22s will follow suit. The Ruger Target 10/22s like the one I have are indeed fiercely accurate, but the hammer-forged heavy barrel is slower moving target to target...so once again, it depends on what one wants to do with the gun (doesn't it always?!?!). If you look at the Steel Challenge rimfire rifle or the Ruger Rimfire Challenge matches, distances are moderate, target-to-target sequencing is critical, and a shorter, lighter barrel and a red dot optic are the proven path for those type matches. In Sportsmen's Team Challenge events, the distances are greater and the targets smaller, so you see heavier barrels and higher power scopes.

You pays yer money, and you takes yer chances...

Michael B

[seeker_two]

You know....in the end, it really doesn't matter what Ruger turns the 10/22 into....

....we just really want to hear you incorporate the phrase "Tate Moots" into more things..... 

[Sponsor]

[Marshal Halloway]

More on the SR-22 in this week's Down Range Radio:
http://www.downrange.tv/radio/127.htm

[ericire12]

I stand by my earlier analysis:

Thats basically it in a nut shell. IMO, This is really not a good business move for them.... it does not meet the consumers need for this particular market segment... It does not replicate practicing with an AR. It replicates shooting a 10/22 with a pistol grip.

*The Mags are a totally different style
*The mag release is a totally different style/location
*The safety is a completely different style/location
*There is no traditional AR style charging handle
*You can't do any iron sight training
*Rails must be purchase for attaching accessories on the forearm
*Did I mention the price? The MSRPs for dedicated AR-22s by Smith or Colt are $500


I dont think people that are looking for an economical way to get some AR practice are going to buy this rifle -- 10/22 enthusiasts might, but they can AR out their own 10/22 for much less money. This just does not give consumers what they are looking for when making this type of purchase...... and for far less money they can go out and buy a conversion kit, a .22 upper, or a dedicated AR-22.

IMO, this way of entering the AR-22 market is pretty much a cop out. This is not an AR-22, it is a dressed up 10/22........ and a pricey one at that.

[Hazcat]

So,

When is the give a way?   

[shooter32]

So,

When is the give a way?   

Way over due for a give a way!!   

[ericire12]

UPDATE: Remington did it also (announced in June '09)






Features:

*Nickel-Teflon plating for smooth, dependable operations
*Barrel Attachment Clamp for positive lock-up
*Target-style, free-floating 16" barrels
*Low Profile, 10-round Magazine
*Non-Reflective Matte Finish
*1913 Picatinny Rail System
*Pardus Collapsible Stock

Well established in the world of 22 rimfire rifles, the Model 597 family of autoloading rimfires adds full-featured, AR-style versions to its line-up, the Model 597 VTR (Varmint Target Rifle) 22LR in two distinctive configurations. With performance-enhancing features derived from Remington’s platform of R-15 and R-25 modular repeating rifles, these heavy barreled, tack-driving carbines will be offered through Gander Mountain® retailers and available nationwide to dealer network through Ellett Brothers.

With its innovative design, the Model 597 platform starts with our proprietary bolt-guidance system, which features a unique set of twin tool-steel guide rails for better stability, feeding reliability and greater out-of-the-box accuracy. The bolt, hammer and sear of the Model 597 feature an exclusive nickel-Teflon® plating for smooth, dependable operation and an ultra-crisp trigger pull. To assure reliable, long-term accuracy, a permanent rigid barrel attachment clamp is incorporated for positive lock-up.

http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/rimfire_rifles/model_597/model_597_vtr.asp



$450 on GunBroker
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=140722920
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=140838572






*Notice it is named "Model 597 VTR" and not "R-22"
http://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2009/09/racing-snow.html?showComment=1253644510859#c4897982771175644082