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Re: Heads Are Gonna Roll At The Secret Service
« Reply #40 on: December 04, 2009, 04:03:37 PM »
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Re: Heads Are Gonna Roll At The Secret Service
« Reply #41 on: December 04, 2009, 05:12:51 PM »
The SS is, by nature, an EXTREMELY anal organization that employs extremely anal people.  Case in point:  In 1980 I was Police Chief in a small town in Iowa.  During the Presidential campaign, the Vice President's motorcade was scheduled to pass through (no stops, mind you) my little town on the main highway.  In the weeks leading up to the appointed day, I was involved in no less than 3 meetings and 6 telephone calls with the SS to go over th details of blocking each of the 4 intersections in that town through which the motorcade would pass.  NOTHING was left to chance.  EVERYTHING was planned out, gone over, gone over again, and gone over 4 more times right up to an hour before the motorcade passed through.

That experience leads me to believe that some White House social staffer's screw-up  in this instance is causing some innocent SS agents to be thrown under the bus.  I simply cannot believe, based upon my experience with the SS, that any of their agents is capable of screwing the pooch this badly.
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Re: Heads Are Gonna Roll At The Secret Service
« Reply #42 on: December 04, 2009, 07:20:21 PM »
Funny Stuff right there.    ;D

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Re: Heads Are Gonna Roll At The Secret Service
« Reply #43 on: December 04, 2009, 07:39:43 PM »
The SS is, by nature, an EXTREMELY anal organization that employs extremely anal people.  Case in point:  In 1980 I was Police Chief in a small town in Iowa.  During the Presidential campaign, the Vice President's motorcade was scheduled to pass through (no stops, mind you) my little town on the main highway.  In the weeks leading up to the appointed day, I was involved in no less than 3 meetings and 6 telephone calls with the SS to go over th details of blocking each of the 4 intersections in that town through which the motorcade would pass.  NOTHING was left to chance.  EVERYTHING was planned out, gone over, gone over again, and gone over 4 more times right up to an hour before the motorcade passed through.

That experience leads me to believe that some White House social staffer's screw-up  in this instance is causing some innocent SS agents to be thrown under the bus.  I simply cannot believe, based upon my experience with the SS, that any of their agents is capable of screwing the pooch this badly.
You are correct sir. This is what happens when you replace career civil servants with political apointees. We've seen it with the FS for decades. A rich donor gets France, a 30 year vetran gets Congo. Here, Obama replaced a career servant with a crony (probably why Brown's gifts were bought at Target). SS doesn't check the IDs, staff is supposed to. SS just backs them up. No one wants badge heavy body guards at events like these. They are supposed to stay invisible. Staff is the first line of defense, SS is backup. Kind of hard to do when you're schmoozing on the dance floor. Even Maureen Dowd ripped them over this one.
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UPDATE: Heads Are Gonna Roll At The Secret Service
« Reply #44 on: December 07, 2009, 09:23:36 AM »
UPDATE: WOW!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/07/white-house-security-breached-times/?test=faces
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Report: White House Security Breached 91 Times

Tareq and Michaele Salahi may be the most famous party crashers after sneaking into President Obama's first state dinner last month, but they're by no means the first to elude the Secret Service and breach White House security.

A report compiled by the Secret Service reveals security surrounding the president has been breached at least 91 times since 1980, The Washington Post reported on Monday.

A summary of the secret 2003 report, along with descriptions of more recent breaches by federal homeland security officials, details scores of breaches, including a family who was mistakenly allowed onto White House grounds in a minivan, a woman allowed in despite already having falsely claimed a "special relationship" with former president Bill Clinton and a celebrity hunter who joined Harrison Ford's entourage to get near Clinton.

The document, which is the most complete accounting of recent Secret Service security breakdowns, says the incidents expose significant gaps that could be exploited by would-be assassins and erode "one of the best tools for deterring future attempts."

A Secret Service official confirmed the authenticity of the unclassified document to the newspaper, adding that it had been used to train agents and officers in an effort to improve agency operations.

The list of perimeter breaches indicates that intruders have reached the president or another person under Secret Service protection eight times since 1980, including the Salahis, the Post reported. Four of the incidents involved the same man.

The review was commissioned in 2001 by then Secret Service director Brian Stafford after the service was humiliated for a third time by the most notorious presidential gate-crasher, Richard C. Weaver, who evaded inauguration security to shake George W. Bush's hand.

Weaver, a California minister, had previously infiltrated a 1991 prayer breakfast attended by then-President George H.W. Bush, and Clinton's 1997 inaugural luncheon.

"I believe God makes me invisible to the security, undetectable," said Weaver, whose methods included manipulating others to obtain tickets, telling guards he was lost or looking for a bathroom, and generally "appearing as [if] you are supposed to be there," the Secret Service report said.
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Re: Heads Are Gonna Roll At The Secret Service
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Re: Heads Are Gonna Roll At The Secret Service
« Reply #45 on: December 07, 2009, 01:40:50 PM »
Being on the Secret Service's Presidential has to be the worst job in the world. You fight hard to get it and then train like hell. What do you get? If you do your job right, you're bored to tears. If you do it wrong, make the slightest mistake, you either wind up taking a bullet or get hung out to dry. I respect those folks but cannot imagine doing the job. This is doubly true because no matter what you think of the President, you still have to take the hit. God bless them, but you couldn't pay me enough to take that gig.
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