Author Topic: Guns That Have Changed Our Thinking & Why??  (Read 18447 times)

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Re: Guns That Have Changed Our Thinking & Why??
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2009, 05:10:10 PM »
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thing is its figure of speech for a glock. On a  rustbucket, you will hear a click long before I'm firing round 15. ;)
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As far as guns that have changed my thinking. It's not so much the gun, but the caliber. I was rolling my eyes when the .338 Lapua Mag. started to become popular. I was thinking that it was just another wildcat round. But as I have done more research into this round. I believe that this caliber can make the 1 mile shot within reason, and within budget for almost all of us. And that is a very cool thought.  8)
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Re: Guns That Have Changed Our Thinking & Why??
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2009, 05:14:25 PM »
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thing is its figure of speech for a glock. On a  rustbucket, you will hear a click long before I'm firing round 15. ;)
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What you mean kemosabe? 

You talkin about the 18rds of .45ACP I can get in my Para P-14.  :P
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Re: Guns That Have Changed Our Thinking & Why??
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2009, 05:44:31 PM »
I would add the John Browning's FN Browning M1900 (A.K.A. - the Browning No.1) single action, semi-automatic handgun.  It revolutionized handguns and ushered in the transition to today's semi-auto pistols.  It was designed around 1896 and produced in Belgium at the turn of the century thus the designation as the M1900. 

It was the first production handgun to use a slide.

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Re: Guns That Have Changed Our Thinking & Why??
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2009, 06:20:40 PM »
I would add the John Browning's FN Browning M1900 (A.K.A. - the Browning No.1) single action, semi-automatic handgun.  It revolutionized handguns and ushered in the transition to today's semi-auto pistols.  It was designed around 1896 and produced in Belgium at the turn of the century thus the designation as the M1900. 

It was the first production handgun to use a slide.


I have a sort of joint ownership deal with my dad on a Browning High Power, Belgian made circa late sixties. He didn't think he needed it and gave me a semi permanent loan. I've spent the last two years convincing him he should get  a CCW and when he agreed, he wanted it back. I'm delighted he did, but God I miss that gun. 40 years old and its as tight as a nuns !@##, an absolute tack driver at 25 yards which is farther than I normally shoot handguns, and never failed with FMJ or soft points (a few hiccups with hollow points). There is just something about that gun that makes me understand the 1911 guys. The grip, the style, the history, it does seem (at the risk of sounding scary) more alive than my Glock. By that I mean craftsmanship vs factory production. All that said, I'll still carry my G26 because there is less to go wrong. :-\ But, John Moses Browning was one hell of a man.
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Re: Guns That Have Changed Our Thinking & Why??
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2009, 06:37:32 PM »
 Glock is the modern utilitarian mindset coming to the gun world.
Browning's, Colt's, Luger's and S&W's, were artworks in wood and steel, they have "soul", when you handle one you know that some one measured every part, and put hand work into every part to make it within tolerance.
With a Glock they just turn on the plastic squirter and go back the read the  paper.
Yes Glocks are ALMOST fool proof, yes they can stand up to abuse and still work well, but they re just "Things" they have no "soul".

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Re: Guns That Have Changed Our Thinking & Why??
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Re: Guns That Have Changed Our Thinking & Why??
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2009, 06:59:31 PM »
Glock is the modern utilitarian mindset coming to the gun world.
Browning's, Colt's, Luger's and S&W's, were artworks in wood and steel, they have "soul", when you handle one you know that some one measured every part, and put hand work into every part to make it within tolerance.
With a Glock they just turn on the plastic squirter and go back the read the  paper.
Yes Glocks are ALMOST fool proof, yes they can stand up to abuse and still work well, but they re just "Things" they have no "soul".
And here again we agree. There are many fine semi-auto shotguns out there, but you will never get me to trade in my Parker or Merkel for any amount of cash. They feel alive. A Benelli, while more effiecent is just a thing. Sames true of my Glock compared to the Bowning. Thing is though, its an ugly tool to do an ugly job and it does it well. No complaints on this end.
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Re: Guns That Have Changed Our Thinking & Why??
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2009, 07:17:49 PM »
 You will never see a Glock framed on any ones wall except MAYBE Gaston's.

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Re: Guns That Have Changed Our Thinking & Why??
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2009, 07:51:10 PM »
Same opinion of the Glock, resisted them because they were cool and everyone had them. Than went to the dark side and had a deal on a G21 45ACP.

It is a tank. but the thing just works.

M+P became what the Sigma should have been. and the AR "God Bless em'" just continue to evolve to a better rifle. Maximizing the 5.56mm is also a good thing.



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Re: Guns That Have Changed Our Thinking & Why??
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2009, 08:10:21 PM »
You will never see a Glock framed on any ones wall except MAYBE Gaston's.

I kinda would like to hang the Glock which is on page 34 of the ugliest gun  in my gun room.
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Re: Guns That Have Changed Our Thinking & Why??
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2009, 08:24:06 PM »
I kinda would like to hang the Glock which is on page 34 of the ugliest gun  in my gun room.
But you won't,because it will be in your IWB or in your pocket. ;) Yes they are ugly. Yes they are a souless piece of industrial crap which are to 1911s, what Eurotrash "Techno" is to real music. That said, its an ugly gun for an ugly job, and at seven yards or seven feet, when you're scared and operating on pure instinct, I defy you to find anything better. No Kool aid, just stone axe simple, and it goes bang every time.
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