Gangsta Grip ?

[2HOW]

The Gangsta Grip: As police chased Raymond "Ready" Martinez through Times Square on Thursday, the street hustler and aspiring rapper fired two shots, holding the gun sideways "like a character out of a rap video." According to the New York Post, Martinez's side grip caused the gun to jam, enabling police to shoot and kill the suspect. What's the point of holding a gun sideways? To look Hollywood, of course. Journalists and gun experts point to the 1993 Hughes brothers film Menace II Society, which depicts the side grip in its opening scene, as the movie that popularized the style. Although the directors claim to have witnessed a side grip robbery in Detroit in 1987, there are few reports of street gangs using the technique until after the movie came out. The Hughes brothers didn't invent the grip, though. In 1961's One-Eyed Jacks, Marlon Brando used it, as did Eli Wallach in 1966's The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly. Directors may prefer the style because it makes it easier to see both the weapon and the actor's face in a tight camera shot… (It may well be apocryphal but I was once told that one former gangbanger claimed that when he had been capering he never knew what gun he might pick up and whether the fit in his hand might cause the gun to shoot to the left or the right. By turning the gun sideways, he claimed that he converted any lateral deviation to vertical deviation, which meant he would still hit the opponent, perhaps higher or lower than he intended. The Hollywood theory sounds more plausible.)

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[tombogan03884]

The Gangsta Grip: As police chased Raymond "Ready" Martinez through Times Square on Thursday, the street hustler and aspiring rapper fired two shots, holding the gun sideways "like a character out of a rap video." According to the New York Post, Martinez's side grip caused the gun to jam, enabling police to shoot and kill the suspect. What's the point of holding a gun sideways? To look Hollywood, of course. Journalists and gun experts point to the 1993 Hughes brothers film Menace II Society, which depicts the side grip in its opening scene, as the movie that popularized the style. Although the directors claim to have witnessed a side grip robbery in Detroit in 1987, there are few reports of street gangs using the technique until after the movie came out. The Hughes brothers didn't invent the grip, though. In 1961's One-Eyed Jacks, Marlon Brando used it, as did Eli Wallach in 1966's The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly. Directors may prefer the style because it makes it easier to see both the weapon and the actor's face in a tight camera shot… (It may well be apocryphal but I was once told that one former gangbanger claimed that when he had been capering he never knew what gun he might pick up and whether the fit in his hand might cause the gun to shoot to the left or the right. By turning the gun sideways, he claimed that he converted any lateral deviation to vertical deviation, which meant he would still hit the opponent, perhaps higher or lower than he intended. The Hollywood theory sounds more plausible.)

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I have heard similar theories about using a Thompson's muzzle climb to aid in sweeping multiple opponents.
I think I'll stick with short bursts on each opponent.

[fightingquaker13]

How many 17 year old bangers think in terms of lateral vs vertical deviation when using an unfamiliar firearm? I think that the number is vanishingly small, or we'd have a lot more dead cops and Pincus would be talking about it. Hmmm....Pincus' next project, Popp'n Caps Gagnsta Style, by RP, "OG"  Booh-Yah.
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[twyacht]

Let's review, from the Original "OG" instructor on propa tekneek beeeyooootchhh....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewtfCKwDVzk

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[blackwolfe]

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I figured that would come up.

[ericire12]

I figured that would come up.

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[Solus]

There is an Israeli carry technique that specifies carrying a semi-auto pistol without a round in the chamber.  In this technique, the pistol is drawn with the right hand, tilted sideways with the slide to the left, where it is grasped by the left hand and the action is cycled while the pistol remains sideways.

If a quick shot is required, the shot is made from the sideways position.  I believe I have a video of this technique being demonstrated.  I have heard that this video might have been Hollywood's inspiration.

I also recently saw a picture of a Revolutionary War soldier shooting an enemy soldier at very close range using this hold.

In any case, I'd believe I'd get a moral boost if I faced an opponent and saw them using this grip.

[tombogan03884]

 If a Revolutionary soldier REALLY tried to use the "Gangsta Grip" the priming powder would have fallen out of the frizzen when he fired resulting in a misfire.

[fightingquaker13]

There is an Israeli carry technique that specifies carrying a semi-auto pistol without a round in the chamber.  In this technique, the pistol is drawn with the right hand, tilted sideways with the slide to the left, where it is grasped by the left hand and the action is cycled while the pistol remains sideways.


In any case, I'd believe I'd get a moral boost if I faced an opponent and saw them using this grip.

Why would you carry a pistol without a round in the chamber? What's the point? I mean, I leave my guns at home loaded with an empty chamber (kid free house), but thats because I figure I'll have that extra second it wil take to rack a round in. As far as carrying, I'd rather carry an SA revolver than an auto with an empty chamber. However as far as the morale boost, I half agree with you. If my assailant holds his gun sideways, I figure I can run away without getting hit (serpentine, serpentine ). On the other hand, if I do get hit, I'll die knowing I got killed by a fool and that will piss me off.
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