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Re: This is incredibly disturbing
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2009, 09:33:40 PM »
Try looking for a little more of God's love and forgiveness. I'd start with John 3:16, then move on to the Book Matthew. I know that's a cheap shot Path (course, so was the Sportical comment ;)), but for me, what differentiates Christianity from most other religions is that God's capacity to love and forgive is front and center. Its not a footnote, its the corner stone (compare and contrast with Islam). As far as having no moral compass, I have the same one Jefferson and Franklin used. Classical liberalism. Try John Locke's "Second Treatise on Civil Government" or J.S. Mill's "On Liberty". That isn't a condescending reading list either, its two great books that set the moral and political course for the country. You want to to understand my politics, those two books along Alf's copy of "The Road to Serfdom' will answer the question.  We may disagree on abortion, and you may even be right, but understand that my answer wasn't chosen on a whim either.
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Re: This is incredibly disturbing
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2009, 09:48:36 PM »
This is an awful act, and I hope my reply will help some of you, I think none of us would stand and watch a newborn be killed, and would in fact stand up and defend it to the best of our abilities. This particular quirk in the law is unbelievable, this woman committed murder, simple. Law is on her side. You have to. at this point, and when considering abortion, allow for god to be the judge, and let God set his sentence.

I have always said, if we really believed that abortion was murder, then we should kill back, God in my  opinion gave us an out, let that is Cesar's be rendered unto  Cesar. Meaning, this is beyond your control, and your soul should not suffer for it.

This is the kind of thing, that tries our souls.

God bless, you all.
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Re: This is incredibly disturbing
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2009, 11:31:08 PM »
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Investigators tell WSLS the baby’s airway was still blocked. They say the baby was under bedding and had been suffocated by her mother. Investigators say because the mother and baby were still connected by the umbilical cord and placenta, state law does not consider the baby to be a separate life. Therefore, the mother cannot be charged.

“In the state of Virginia as long as the umbilical cord is attached and the placenta is still in the mother, if the baby comes out alive the mother can do whatever she wants to with that baby to kill it.“, says Investigator Tracy Emerson. “She could shoot the baby, stab the baby. As long as it’s still attached to her in some form by umbilical cord or something it’s no crime in the state of Virginia.“


Shaking my head in disbelief .............. I just ain't got the words to express my thoughts on this one.
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Re: This is incredibly disturbing
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2009, 11:53:12 PM »
All of you on both sides have been brain washed on this abortion crap, Those of you who oppose a medical procedure that is sometimes required are pig headed Luddites.
Those who "Demand this or any other medical procedure "On Demand" are pin headed a$$ holes.
Replace the word abortion with transplant or amputation and the stupidity and foolishness of both sides becomes obvious.

On THE ORIGINAL post, the psycho bitch should get the death penalty like any one else that murders an infant.

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Re: This is incredibly disturbing
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2009, 11:55:31 PM »
All of you on both sides have been brain washed on this abortion crap, Those of you who oppose a medical procedure that is sometimes required are pig headed Luddites.
Those who "Demand this or any other medical procedure "On Demand" are pin headed a$$ holes.
Replace the word abortion with transplant or amputation and the stupidity and foolishness of both sides becomes obvious.
A breath of fresh air as always ;), but on this point, more right than wrong.
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Re: This is incredibly disturbing
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Re: This is incredibly disturbing
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2009, 08:26:59 AM »
She may be beyond the reach of man's law, but she will not be beyond the reach of God's law.

I would say you are absolutely correct.  But God is a God of love and peace as well as other things.  In this instance, though, I would cling to II Thessalonians 2:12.  We need to understand, I think, that most of the termination of the unborn is with convenience in mine so that econmic impact and hardship is less (that one may have some pleasure without the hardship of a child around).  There is very little instance of medical necessity and that, as tough a decision as there can be, was always a private decision with no meaningful legal consequence except that these instances were blown out of proportion by abortionists and used as a showcase to associate and justify wanton, unrestricted abortion.

I think II Thessalonians 2:12 is quite appropriate, both for those who practician and support and those who do not practician but support abortion.  The verse preceding is quite telling as well.
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Re: This is incredibly disturbing
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2009, 09:25:02 AM »
I would say you are absolutely correct.  But God is a God of love and peace as well as other things.  In this instance, though, I would cling to II Thessalonians 2:12.  We need to understand, I think, that most of the termination of the unborn is with convenience in mine so that econmic impact and hardship is lessed (that one may have some pleasure without the hardship of a child around).  There is very little instance of medical necessity and that, as tough a decision as there can be, was always a private decision with no meaningful legal consequence except that these instances were blown out of proportion by abortionists and used as a showcase to associate and justify wanton, unrestricted abortion.

I think II Thessalonians 2:12 is quite appropriate, both for those who practician and support and those who do not practician but support abortion.  The verse preceding is quite telling as well.

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Re: This is incredibly disturbing
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2009, 10:25:36 AM »
Careful with the language 2how, because you're talking about a lot of folks who are no better or worse then you. They have just looked at the facts and come to a different conclusion. Reasoning works well, threats and condemnation, well... I'm just pointing out that its the least effective way to persuade someone as it always gets their back up. My advice is that you make your case, not just condemn more than half of the populace to hell. This IS NOT to start an abortion arguement. I won't engage in one and we all know what we believe and why. Its just about style 2How, and how you make your case.
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What do you call viability ? Its not about style its about murder.  I suppose partial birth abortions are ok also ? There is no middle of the road on this although the far left will have you believe its ok. Not to worry ,if you dont believe there will be consequences, dont be so touchy. I dont need to make a case , its been made.
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Re: This is incredibly disturbing
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2009, 10:40:04 AM »
What do you call viability ?

That question is above his pay grade.

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Re: This is incredibly disturbing
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2009, 10:54:23 AM »
I hate religious and right to life debates on the internet, and I will only participate in limited fashion ...

While in a very liberal public university a professor stated it better than I ever could when it came to "when does life begin."  He stated that whether you you are a evolutionist or creationist; a Christian, Jew or athiest; smart dude or idiot, the fact is that life began once, and all we do is pass it on from one to another.  In the animal kingdom, we take one half of a cell, attach it to another half cell, and you get a single cell that divides and divides and divides until you get an organism that looks like you and me ... poor little cell  ;)

Over simplified ... Maybe, but in the words of Forrest Gump "That is all I have to say about that."
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