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New York City crime rates at record low: police
« on: December 28, 2009, 06:10:34 PM »
Thought you might get a kick out of this:

New York City crime rates at record low: police

 Mon Dec 28, 3:44 pm ET

NEW YORK (Reuters) – This year has been the safest in New York City in more than four decades, with the murder rate down to levels not seen since the early 1960s, police said on Monday.

As of Sunday, 461 murders had been committed, down from 516 in 2008 and the lowest number since comparable record-keeping began in 1963, the New York Police Department said.

Nationwide, statistics suggest the United States will have seen a drop in violent crime for a third year in a row. Last week, the FBI reported violent crime, including murder and robbery, dropped 4.4 percent in the first half of 2009.

The FBI also said New York was the safest U.S. big city in 2009.

Crime in New York has been falling for several years in a decline widely attributed to a "broken windows" strategy of no tolerance for even the smallest infraction and the system of identifying and addressing problem areas.

In announcing the 2009 statistics, Mayor Michael Bloomberg also gave credit to his efforts to clamp down on illegal guns.

This was "a year for the record books," Bloomberg said.

Rape, robbery and burglary rates were down from 2008 but felony assaults ticked up 2 percent, police said.

The announcement came as the police department inducted 250 new officers into the force, one of the smallest batches of new hires in recent memory, spokesman Paul Browne said.

The number of New York police officers is about 34,000, down from 40,800 in 2001, a span of time in which crime rates have fallen, police said.

(Reporting by Basil Katz; Editing by Ellen Wulfhorst and Bill Trott)

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Re: New York City crime rates at record low: police
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2009, 07:42:28 PM »
Hmmmm let me get this right.

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    :This year has been the safest in New York City in more than four decades.
    :461 murders had been committed, down from 516 in 2008
    :FBI reported violent crime, including murder and robbery, dropped 4.4 percent in the first half of 2009.
    :Rape, robbery and burglary rates were down from 2008


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    :The number of New York police officers is about 34,000, down from 40,800 in 2001, a span of time in which crime rates have fallen

Does any one else find this the slightest little bit of an amusing coincident?


<no disprespect to any former or serving LEO on this forum btw>
Just think its a weird stat to put in with that of reducing crime rates.
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Re: New York City crime rates at record low: police
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2009, 07:47:44 PM »
In announcing the 2009 statistics, Mayor Michael Bloomberg also gave credit to his efforts to clamp down on illegal , all guns.

Nothing like a fat head for a fat cat. Maybe, just maybe with whatever means they have necessary, citizens are simply fighting back against thugs.

Kinda wondering if knife incidents are up, or if a shop owner in Queens just grabs a baseball bat and lands a couple good whacks on a BG.

This is one of those stats that could have more "behind the story", than the story,....

Your right sledge, methinks something's afoot with the numbers. Maybe LEO's are just patrolling more and busting more criminals, which have nothing to do with law abiding folks who have grown tired of being a victim.



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Re: New York City crime rates at record low: police
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2009, 07:55:35 PM »
In announcing the 2009 statistics, Mayor Michael Bloomberg also gave credit to his efforts to clamp down on illegal , all guns.

Nothing like a fat head for a fat cat. Maybe, just maybe with whatever means they have necessary, citizens are simply fighting back against thugs.

Kinda wondering if knife incidents are up, or if a shop owner in Queens just grabs a baseball bat and lands a couple good whacks on a BG.

This is one of those stats that could have more "behind the story", than the story,....

Your right sledge, methinks something's afoot with the numbers. Maybe LEO's are just patrolling more and busting more criminals, which have nothing to do with law abiding folks who have grown tired of being a victim.


Mate its like over here after the 96 steal back, the govt announced in prceedng years what a great success it had been, for example less suicides with with guns etc. the fact is that in all the stats they regurgitated they had been falling before then any ways? Yet still the sheeple was too stupid to realise this fact. Nor did they mention that actual illegal firearm crimes inceased ie robbery, home invasions etc.

Statistics dont lie be damned it depends on who is reporting what to whom and what they want them to hear.
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Re: New York City crime rates at record low: police
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2009, 07:59:24 PM »
I saw a headline today that Police deaths were down as well, it was on Yahoo news when I checked my E mail, but when I went back to get the link to post here it was already gone.

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Re: New York City crime rates at record low: police
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Re: New York City crime rates at record low: police
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2009, 08:05:53 PM »
I saw a headline today that Police deaths were down as well, it was on Yahoo news when I checked my E mail, but when I went back to get the link to post here it was already gone.

Is this the story?

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/12/28/us/politics/AP-US-Police-Fatalities.html

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Fewer Law Enforcement Officers Died on Job in 2009

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Law enforcement deaths this year dropped to their lowest level since 1959, while the decade of the 2000s was among the safest for officers -- despite the deadliest single day for police on Sept. 11, 2001.

The drop in deaths, cited in a police group's report Monday, was tempered by an increase in firearm deaths. In one horrific November shooting, four officers were executed as they discussed their upcoming shift in a Lakewood, Wash., coffee shop.

Through Dec. 27, the report by the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund found:

--124 officers were killed this year, compared to 133 in 2008. The 2009 total represents the fewest line-of-duty deaths since 108 a half-century ago.

--Traffic fatalities fell to 56, compared to 71 a year ago. The report said the decline was partly attributed to ''move over'' state laws, which require motorists to change lanes to give officers clearance on the side of a road.

--Firearms deaths rose to 48, nine more than in 2008. However, the 39 fatalities in 2008 represented the lowest annual figure in more than five decades.

--Thirty-five states and Puerto Rico had officer fatalities in 2009, with Texas the only state in double figures. Texas had 11 fatalities, followed by Florida, 9; California, 8; and North Carolina and Pennsylvania, 7.

--Six federal officers died in 2009, including three Drug Enforcement Administration special agents killed in a helicopter crash in Afghanistan while conducting counter-narcotics operations.

--One female officer was killed in 2009, compared with 13 the previous year. There was no explanation for the decline.

--An average of 162 officers a year died in the 2000s, compared with 160 in the 1990s, 190 in the 1980s and 228 in the 1970s -- the deadliest decade for U.S. law enforcement. Seventy-two officers died on Sept. 11.

''To reach a 50-year low in officer deaths is a real credit to the law enforcement profession and its commitment to providing the best possible training and equipment to our officers,'' said the Memorial Fund chairman and chief executive officer, Craig Floyd.

''But we cannot allow ourselves to be lulled into a state of complacency. There are nearly 60,000 criminal assaults against our law officers every year in this country, resulting in more than 15,000 injuries. And, over the past decade, more than 1,600 officers have been killed in the line of duty.''

Fifteen deaths occurred in five incidents during the year, showing the potential danger in domestic disturbances, traffic stops and serving arrest warrants.

In March, four Oakland, Calif., officers were killed after a traffic stop and subsequent barricade incident.

Three Pittsburgh officers, responding to a domestic disturbance, were ambushed in April by a heavily armed gunman wearing a bullet-resistant vest.

That same month, two Okaloosa County, Fla., sheriff's deputies were gunned down while trying to arrest a domestic violence suspect.

In July, two Seminole County, Okla., sheriff's deputies were shot and killed while trying to serve an arrest warrant.

Domestic disturbance calls were particularly dangerous for officers in 2009, resulting in 11 deaths, while unprovoked ambushes led to the deaths of six officers.

The report was issued in conjunction with a second police group, Concerns of Police Survivors.

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Re: New York City crime rates at record low: police
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2009, 08:17:58 PM »
That's the one !
Thanks Sledge .

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Re: New York City crime rates at record low: police
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2009, 08:56:34 PM »
I don't think "461" people have been murdered in the entire state of ND in its entire history - Indian attacks not counted. I love it when big city mayors say that "461" isn't a bad number - that is still nearly 500 people who were murdered because (in part) they were not allowed to defend themselves. And that is just in one city.
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Re: New York City crime rates at record low: police
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2009, 09:58:07 PM »
I don't think "461" people have been murdered in the entire state of ND in its entire history - Indian attacks not counted. I love it when big city mayors say that "461" isn't a bad number - that is still nearly 500 people who were murdered because (in part) they were not allowed to defend themselves. And that is just in one city.

Of those 461 people killed howmany was "shit on shit" (pardon the expletives) events ie gang bangers killing other gang bangers, speed feaks killing dealers etc etc ? Personally I dont know about any one else but when i see a story about how some bogan retard wacks another bogan retard and no innocent bystander gets hurt I really dont give a flying frisbee.
I reckon bring back a gladiator style of justice, in jail you stay or you can fight another drop kick to the death if you win five times you get a second chance, in the mean time prison populations go down, cost less to feed and house them, can provide revenue from PPV coverage for schools, hospitals and elederly WIN-WIN.
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Re: New York City crime rates at record low: police
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2009, 11:48:30 PM »
some bogan retard wacks another bogan retard


Tom Bogan thinks you should explain that phrase  Sledge.
I know there is a Bogan River in Australia, so I'm a little offended but a lot curious.
Don't think you INTENDED any offense, so I'm curious how you came by that term, Were there a Family of Bogan's that were real SOB's or something ?

 

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