Biting in a fight. Your thoughts?

[Walter45Auto]

I'm not in any way a tactical defense expert, but I don't think i'd bite, just on the risk of getting infected with anything the BG may have in his blood. HOWEVER, if my German Shepherd happens to be with me when I'm attacked, The first thing someone will get should they attack me is bitten, much harder than I can.

Is biting fighting dirty? YOU BET! and if my life depends on me fighting, then i wouldn't leave it out. If My life/personal safety depends on me winning the fight (And since I ain't a fighter by nature, It would. I'm not the fight-picker of the family. As a side note, it's one of a few reasons I don't do meth or drink Tequila. PPL in my bloodline want to kill someone when those are in the bloodstream.), I'll kick with steel toed boots, poke them in the eye, take a brick upside their head, whatever. God Forbid I ever have to be in a mess like that......... 

[fightingquaker13]

Bottom line for me is this. I haven't been in a fight since junior high. I don't plan on getting in one either. I would rather take a load of crap and walk away than the alternative. Pride is cheap, defense lawyers are pricey. But if I am forced to fight (and it will be because I'm forced) I will kick, stomp, bite and gouge. Hell, I will slap and pull hair if it seems effective, and all this is in the service of getting to my gun and getting out the door. It may sound strange for someone on this board to say, but I really don't like violence. I don't like seeing people hurt, and I don't have the stomach to be an EMT or an ER Doc. But the thing is I like violence even less when its directed at me. Thats why I avoid fights, but also why I carry so that if I can't avoid them I can win them. Hell yes I'll bite.
FQ13 who will floss afterwards and pray a rosary

[m25operator]

Sir I don't LIKE violence either, it's like a flat tire, sometimes needs to be done, cold or hot, rain or shine, joyous or sad, hurting or healthy. I take exception here FQ, I don't think most of us are looking for trouble. If we are, then we will find it, and averages say we will be sorry .

[fightingquaker13]

Sir I don't LIKE violence either, it's like a flat tire, sometimes needs to be done, cold or hot, rain or shine, joyous or sad, hurting or healthy. I take exception here FQ, I don't think most of us are looking for trouble. If we are, then we will find it, and averages say we will be sorry .

Operator
If you or anyone else took offense to my post I offer my apolgies. It was not intended to be a slam or a "holier than thou" position, its just my view. Look, maybe little biography is in order. I was (to no ones surprise) a bit of a geek in school. Yet I was also in good shape due to my dads insistance on fishing from a canoe and helping my grandad with his hobby ranch. My dad also insisited on me taking karate (a bastardized version of Shotokan) when I was ten. Long story short. I got picked on, I fought back. My friends (fellow nerds) got picked on, I fought back. By 13, I was tired of it. My parents were tired of it, and I decided to just walk away, break the kid code, and narc on the malefactor and let the teachers deal with him. This simplified my life. When I was ROTC, this feeling was intensified. I was given the idea that America was a nation of producers, not soldiers, our job was simply to be the "gun on the night stand" hopefully never needed, but ready to go ( all credit here goes to Lt. Col. Hamilton). Finally I spent 4 years teaching at a Quaker college. I was warned by the guy, a non-Quaker, that interviewed me that it would be a life changing experience and that you would drink the Kool-aid whether you wanted to or not. He was right. As a politically libertrian/liberal Christian, living in a Quaker environment was a humbling thing. While I will never be a pacifist or oppose the military (hell I carry a gun for a reason), I did gain an appreciation for avoiding serious conflict, if you can do so with your priciples intact.  The point is that I never meant to be judgemental in my post. All I wanted to say is that given some random fight that I never asked for, with nothing at stake but pride, I will run rather than fight. But if I can't run, you have a problem, because I will shoot (or in this case bite) your ass before I allow myself to become a victim. I hope this clears up any misunderstanding Operator.
FQ13

[tombogan03884]

 Hey FQ, it's not just "Serious conflict", look at Mohammad Ali.
I think you will find that the majority of us carry to AVOID violence,
Like the guy said, to old for a whooping, to young to die

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[bulldog75]

Bad thing is when you get into a sticky situation your gun will crap its guts out and then you will resort to what ever it takes to walk away with your life.

[tombogan03884]

That's why I carry a 1911, when Murphy strikes I can still club them with the slide 

[Solus]

We keep shifting between two types of encounters.

Those that are anti-social...bullies in bar for instance....  this type of encounter can usually be avoided by walking away.  Most of the fights we have been in, especially in our youth, were of this type.  If you can walk away or safely defuse the situation, there is not need for violence and none should be offered. 

The other type is asocial.  This is the the encounter we go armed to defend against.  This is with the person who you cannot turn your back on without extreme risk.  When you know you are in this type of encounter, violence is likely the only way out if the bad guy has decided you can be had.  This is a fight for your life and there is no wrong attack. You will only need to bite in this encounter if you could not draw and shoot quick enough to end it that way. 

[Rob Pincus]

Stay on topic guys:

Biting for personal Defense? Yes or no

If yes: When/Why?

If no: Why?.

-RJP

[saltydogbk]

Yes on biting.  Shock value for one thing, my survival as paramount  the other.